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28th February 2020, 12:40 PM | #321 |
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From: https://time.com/5790880/coronavirus...eather-summer/
He told a crowd at a Feb. 10 rally in New Hampshire: “You know, in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away, that’s true.” ... Dr. Nancy Messionnier of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warned against assuming the number of cases will slow as the weather warms...Other health experts that TIME spoke to agree that it’s too early to say if warmer weather will impact the virus’s spread..."Past coronavirus outbreaks, SARS and MERS, haven’t really exhibited clear evidence of being seasonal". That was one of the times that he claimed the problem would just vanish. There was also this: From: https://q13fox.com/2020/02/27/trump-...ar-eventually/ “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear,” Trump told attendees at an African American History Month reception in the White House Cabinet Room. (Note: He did say it might get worse first, although his "We'll see what happens" doesn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence.) |
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28th February 2020, 12:48 PM | #322 |
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I initially misread the last sentence of your post.
I didn't realize you were asking for additional information, despite the fact that I already gave you a link providing exactly that. Here's the link again, if you need it: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/fa...ss-conference/ |
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I now think the Corona VIrus might just be a huge gift to the Dems.
It is highlighting Trump's incompetence. |
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28th February 2020, 01:38 PM | #324 |
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28th February 2020, 01:44 PM | #325 |
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Bit semantic, but with those bullet points.
The first doesn't disprove what he said. Second isn't even him Third in terms of Medicine and normal procedure vaccines for this are being fast tracked Fourth he is an idiot Fifth isn't even him again Sixth is wrong. The current one is body fluid and not air transfered Someone should fact check fact check Edit: apologies. Misread read the last one. Sixth they are criticising him for something he didn't even say? |
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28th February 2020, 02:43 PM | #336 |
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I think we are dealing with someone trying to be a cool,edgy smart ass, folks..and failing.
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All I was implying was the fact check seems a bit padded with things that are either not technically refuting him (the 1st). Not him. Criticism of things he didn't do (the last).
Just looks like it is just written to make the one thing he did say which was incredibly stupid. "Flu is much higher". Be big enough to just an article |
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It is on a thread as proof about how evil Trump is.
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28th February 2020, 03:02 PM | #343 |
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According to President Trump, the stock market dropped because people saw the terrible Democratic debate. Never mind that he will easily beat anyone the Democrats nominate. The Coronavirus will turn out to be another Russia hoax (if it's not a Ukraine hoax or a global warming hoax, which was also created by the Chinese). The best people are hard at work.
It's not like Trump has spent time bitching about trophies in film or holding rallies for re-election. Koreans r bad. |
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The problem is, many of the things that Trump is doing will have a detrimental effect to the world, but the effects might not be seen for a few years.
For example: - Trump's withdrawal from the Paris climate accords and efforts to bolster fossil fuels will contribute to climate change. This means that even people in other continents will have to contend with changes in weather patterns that might not have occurred if the U.S. actually had a responsible president - Trump's efforts to deregulate the financial industry and bump up the deficit means that when the next recession hits, it will likely be longer and deeper than it needs to be. And because of the size of the American economy, all parts of the world will be affected - Trump's plans to cut CDC funding (and the elimination of experts from the National Security Council) means that diseases which could be limited to a small geographic region have a higher chance of spreading and becoming a global pandemic. Now, do any of these impact you immediately? Probably not. But they may impact you in a few years. |
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If there's one thing I won't attribute to Trump, it's the slump in the stock market. (I didn't really attribute the high to his influence, either.) The plunge has nothing to do with him, although I think it could get worse if his response continues to be hapless.
Republicans are saying Democrats are happy for the virus for that reason -- that they want millions of people to die because it will make Trump look bad. |
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No, Trump is very professional. Any rank amateur would be able to do a better job at it than him by leaving the whole thing to experts who know what to do or how to find out what to do. Trump, however, is a professional manipulator, trying to put the blame for calamities that arise from his attempts at hiding/distorting the truth about the virus outbreak and blaming other people. What his technique may lack in subtlety, it makes up for in consistency: It's what he always does. Calling him an amateur implies that he is interested in fighting the coronavirus efficiently. He isn't. That's not what Trump does. Next we'll be hearing John Barron tell the world that Trump is the best disease fighter of all time! On this planet and any other! |
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28th February 2020, 03:35 PM | #351 |
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You keep making this claim and it's still as nonsensical as was the first time.
Trump has made no difference whatsoever to NZ thus far, and won't make any whether he lasts one more year or five. You overestimate America's effect on the parts of the world it isn't dropping bombs on. Like Europe, Australia and several other enlightened nations, we're quite happy to sit back and laugh at both sides of Trumpism, because he does not have any material effect on our lives or countries. He's hysterically funny*, and the people opposing him are almost as funny. That ridiculous, pompous, slave of Wall Street, Nancy Pelosi, and her making faces and tearing things up behind Trump's back is no less toddler tantrum the bizarre behaviour he shows. USA is a lot like Israel v Saudi - both sides are bat **** crazy. *Just to keep it on topic, you can't get funnier than appointing an anti-science, fundamentalist christian to head the fight against a virus that requires an evidence-based, scientific approach. |
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Well, there's no guarantee that Trump's actions will contribute to a pandemic, it does increase the risk.
From: https://www.the-scientist.com/daily-...-at-risk-30298 The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is facing dark days. Not only has the agency been marred by the resignation of Director Brenda Fitzgerald last month, but Congress has also been slowly chipping away at funding for the agency’s public health programs. When the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed into law on December 22, it cut $750 million from the Prevention and Public Health Fund (PPHF)...the CDC will reduce or stop work in 39 of 49 foreign countries focused on preventing infectious-disease epidemics and other health threats. Slashing those programs, along with financial support for PPHF, which provides infrastructure and support for some of those programs, hampers the CDC’s broader capacity to respond to and contain disease outbreaks. |
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To start with, without even reviewing your bulleted list, I recall from memory at least two cases where you are excusing Trump for the actions of those within the Trump administration. Trump hired the people in his administration yet for some reason you are excusing Trump for the faults of his own administration. That's what I call kissing his ass. |
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It's against the ISF rules to talk about each other instead of talking about Trump and the virus.
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