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Old 12th September 2018, 05:01 AM   #281
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
Watch out, Henri. aleCcowaN gets very offended when people use "America" to refer to the United States of America.

I'm not surprised at all you plenty agree with Henri McPhee's piece of propaganda.
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Old 12th September 2018, 06:30 AM   #282
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Originally Posted by dann View Post
Critics of Chavez/Maduro always mention the "cheap oil" that Venezuelans "send" to Cuba. I'm not really sure if the oil is as cheap as they claim, but if you're trying to persuade Venezuelans that the Alianza Bolivariana para los Pueblos de Nuestra América (ALBA) is a one-sided affair that benefits Cuba at the expense of Venezuela, you should at least try to calculate the going rate.
I don't have it, but I've tried to form at least an impression of it based on these figures from 2012:




So that would be three barrels of oil for a doctor (in today’s prices approximately 150 US$ if I understand it correctly) – not to forget Cuban nurses, teachers and others.
To me it doesn’t sound expensive. How many barrels does a US doctor go for these days?!

(I know that you would have to look at the current doctor-for-oil exchange rate, but I’m just trying to find out if it seems to be as steep as critics of Chavez/Maduro claim. That doesn’t seem to be the case, but maybe one of our economists has a better estimate. It wouldn't surprise at all me if Cuba turned out to be the disadvantaged country in the current situation.)
Im 90% certain that is absolute advantage and not comparative advantage....unless Venezuela thinks they could do a cheaper job of making doctors.
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Old 12th September 2018, 03:17 PM   #283
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
I'm not surprised at all you plenty agree with Henri McPhee's piece of propaganda.
"you plenty"? I'm the only one who said anything. And other than not having a problem with the use of the word "America" to mean "United States of America", I didn't express any opinion about what Henri said. Is that what you mean by propaganda?
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Old 12th September 2018, 03:35 PM   #284
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
Is that what you mean by propaganda?

What is "that"?
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Chavist Fascism and the Crisis.
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Old 12th September 2018, 04:45 PM   #286
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
What is "that"?
Referring to the United States as America.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
Referring to the United States as America.

No, it was the whole "interference ... unfair ... give peace a chance" meme.
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Old 13th September 2018, 04:55 AM   #288
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Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
No, it was the whole "interference ... unfair ... give peace a chance" meme.
My reading of Henri’s post is that he was being sarcastic, that this was a dig at people who believe it and not a direct expression of his own beliefs. Did you read it as being sincere? Perhaps Henri can clarify.
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Um, you have encountered Henri before haven't you?
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Old 13th September 2018, 05:20 AM   #290
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Originally Posted by Tolls View Post
Um, you have encountered Henri before haven't you?
I know I've seen his name before, but honestly, I don't remember much about him. So it's entirely possible I'm misreading him. Which would be funny in its own way.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
I know I've seen his name before, but honestly, I don't remember much about him. So it's entirely possible I'm misreading him. Which would be funny in its own way.
I highly recommend looking up his body of work.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
My reading of Henri’s post is that he was being sarcastic, that this was a dig at people who believe it and not a direct expression of his own beliefs. Did you read it as being sincere? Perhaps Henri can clarify.
You're definitely misreading. And check out the "WW2 and Appeasement" thread for numerous examples of Henri "clarifying".
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Old 13th September 2018, 07:44 AM   #293
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
You're definitely misreading. And check out the "WW2 and Appeasement" thread for numerous examples of Henri "clarifying".
Fair enough. It was just such a simplistic and cliched response that I figured it had to be parody. Poe strikes again, I guess.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
Fair enough. It was just such a simplistic and cliched response that I figured it had to be parody. Poe strikes again, I guess.
Henri's body of work in a nutshell.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
If Chile is an emerging economy, does that make Venezuela a withdrawing economy?
No, it's a submerging economy for sure.
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Originally Posted by Tolls View Post
Um, you have encountered Henri before haven't you?
I am not familiar with this particular specimen, but I know the breed. They write like the tovarishes who make a living from developing fake Facebook profiles to manipulate citizens into voting Trump, Maduro or the Brexit.

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No, it's a submerging economy for sure.
That's why, for sure, the IMF's outlook forecasts a 3.4% growth for this OECD member's economy this year. And the country managed to grow an average of 1.4% a year during last Bachelet (socialist) presidency in spite of copper prices being a 30% lower in average than those of the period 2007-2013. All that growth under either socialist or conservative governments, in spite of the end of the "super ciclo" of copper, with prices dropping from 4.60$ per pound on February 14th 2011 to 2.70$ last September 14th.


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