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Old 24th September 2016, 01:45 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
I'd rather not assume that your looking it up on rational wiki automatically indicates that you just learned of it today.


This below could suggest you didnt know it was serious before looking it up.
Because everyone knows who you are, Bubba. And since you're a CTer, this could've been woo.
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Old 24th September 2016, 02:10 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by tinribmancer View Post
Because everyone knows who you are, Bubba. And since you're a CTer, this could've been woo.


My point being whether or not you knew of it before today. Thanks.
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Old 24th September 2016, 02:37 PM   #43
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Did you know that it was Ike who warned of dangers in a Military Industrial Complex, in his farewell?

That makes him a whistleblower rather than a NWO candidate
One might consider, after looking up Military Industrial Complex, looking up Fallacy of Equivocation on Wikipedia.

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Old 24th September 2016, 04:33 PM   #44
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One might consider, after looking up Military Industrial Complex, looking up Fallacy of Equivocation on Wikipedia.

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OK that doesnt tell me exactly you how are applying it

Care to elaborate?

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Old 24th September 2016, 04:54 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
My point being whether or not you knew of it before today. Thanks.
Yeah, that's right. One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency, and you're falling all over yourself trying to make it sound like you're schooling everyone here about it. Three posts trying to cram the notion into your critics' mouths that they've never heard the concept before you told them. Instead of your point always being to try to belittle or entrap people here, try making it, you know, a point.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
OK that doesnt tell me exactly you how are applying it

Care to elaborate?
Step 1: Define military-industrial complex
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Old 24th September 2016, 05:38 PM   #47
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Yeah, that's right. One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency, and you're falling all over yourself trying to make it sound like you're schooling everyone here about it. Three posts trying to cram the notion into your critics' mouths that they've never heard the concept before you told them. Instead of your point always being to try to belittle or entrap people here, try making it, you know, a point.

Not at all, the opposite is the case. You knew, perhaps

Yes it is one of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency. Therefore why would I even attempt that?

I was surprised to see indication that a member was not familiar with one of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency.

It appears it was true that the member had not heard of it before.

I asked because its not the first time I've noticed such in the member's case.
A matter of age could explain it. Or relatively less familiarity with the material.

Who would not agree that it is surprising to see unfamiliarity with Ike's MIC since its one of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency

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Originally Posted by JayUtah View Post
Yeah, that's right. One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency, and you're falling all over yourself trying to make it sound like you're schooling everyone here about it. Three posts trying to cram the notion into your critics' mouths that they've never heard the concept before you told them. Instead of your point always being to try to belittle or entrap people here, try making it, you know, a point.

"Everyone"? "Your critics'"? "they"? He was inquiring if a single member who is known for starting threads mocking clueless conspiracy theorists really has never heard about Ike's "creation", and this is a legitimate inquiry given the context.

I don't know why you feel addressed and inspired to "speak up" here, but I could imagine some reasons.
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Old 24th September 2016, 05:46 PM   #49
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Three posts trying to cram the notion into your critics' mouths

Actually the 3 posts were quote/reply to a specific member for reason explained.

Your failed attack actually made my point as in it is surprising someone here does not know of

One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency.

Thank you

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Your failed attack...
Oh, please.
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I wonderwill any of the above promote reconsideration of


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Oh, please.

OK change it to 'your attack'.

Better?
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I don't know why you feel addressed...
It's a public forum. No one is "addressed." All members are free to post.

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And that's important why?
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I want to go on record as thanking the intrepid posters here who actually opened the link and listened to that gumbo, so that I don't have to.
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Old 24th September 2016, 06:07 PM   #55
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It's a public forum. No one is "addressed." All members are free to post.

Funny gymnastics.

Most entertaining.

I'll try again like how you address certain members repeatedly to answer your questions asked while addressing them earlier:

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I wonder will any of the above promote reconsideration of

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Yeah, that's right. One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency, and you're falling all over yourself trying to make it sound like you're schooling everyone here about it. Three posts trying to cram the notion into your critics' mouths that they've never heard the concept before you told them. Instead of your point always being to try to belittle or entrap people here, try making it, you know, a point.



Pretty please to answer?
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Old 24th September 2016, 06:13 PM   #56
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Yeah, that's right. One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency, and you're falling all over yourself trying to make it sound like you're schooling everyone here about it. Three posts trying to cram the notion into your critics' mouths that they've never heard the concept before you told them. Instead of your point always being to try to belittle or entrap people here, try making it, you know, a point.




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"Everyone"? "Your critics'"? "they"? He was inquiring if a single member who is known for starting threads mocking clueless conspiracy theorists really has never heard about Ike's "creation", and this is a legitimate inquiry given the context.

I don't know why you feel addressed and inspired to "speak up" here, but I could imagine some reasons.



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I want to go on record as thanking the intrepid posters here who actually opened the link and listened to that gumbo, so that I don't have to.

Why should you "have to"? To "debunk" it? None of the people who watched them even tried to, it's just far beyond that realm. I shared Mrs. Eisenhower's appearances not to mock her or to prove her wrong, but just for the love of the extraordinary, and agree with statements made by marplots and Fener Fan that they are jaw-dropping fascinating. Take it or leave it.
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It's a public forum. No one is "addressed."


example of one member being addressed:

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Yeah, that's right. One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency, and you're falling all over yourself trying to make it sound like you're schooling everyone here about it. Three posts trying to cram the notion into your critics' mouths that they've never heard the concept before you told them. Instead of your point always being to try to belittle or entrap people here, try making it, you know, a point.

Is that a tongue in cheeky thingy?

Because of "One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency"



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All members are free to post.

Is that supposed to have something to do with supporting "No one is "addressed."
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If any talk needed slides and diagrams, her's did.
Maybe slides and diagrams explaining narcissistic personality disorder and its prevalence in the imbecile mind.
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Yeah, that's right. One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency, and you're falling all over yourself trying to make it sound like you're schooling everyone here about it.

Thats just plain counter intuitive. I was surprised to see a member not familiar with Ike's M.I.C. so I asked that member only about it (not "everyone").


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Three posts trying to cram the notion into your critics' mouths that they've never heard the concept before you told them. Instead of your point always being to try to belittle or entrap people here, try making it, you know, a point.
No. Only the one member. It is a contradiction in terms to say everyone because it is general knowledge, except apparently in the case of the one member because One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency



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It's a public forum. No one is "addressed." All members are free to post.

Not so. Members address each other all the time. Compliments and insults are not directed to all in the room.


But if you actually mean literally what you wrote I will keep it in mind as good advice for future posting.
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OK that doesnt tell me exactly you how are applying it
I would think a master of uninformed speculation should be able to figure it out.

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Care to elaborate?
Where's the fun if the speculation is informed?

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But if you actually mean literally what you wrote I will keep it in mind as good advice for future posting.
Four posts doing nothing more than flailing for attention. It's almost as if you're not here to talk about Eisenhower (either one) at all.
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Four posts doing nothing more than flailing for attention. It's almost as if you're not here to talk about Eisenhower (either one) at all.

I dont think so. More like dismantling whatever this was supposed to be.


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Yeah, that's right. One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency, and you're falling all over yourself trying to make it sound like you're schooling everyone here about it. Three posts trying to cram the notion into your critics' mouths that they've never heard the concept before you told them. Instead of your point always being to try to belittle or entrap people here, try making it, you know, a point.

Still standing by it?
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The sooner this silly diversion ends, the better.

It does not matter who started it or who gets the last word - right now it's just bickering.
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The sooner this silly diversion ends, the better.
Are you certain? Unlike the video in the OP this diversion is at least in English.
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In the new video I thought there was one offensive part, when she bragged about having once turned beer into water.

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In the new video I thought there was one offensive part, when she bragged about having once turned beer into water.

Geez, that is some disturbing ****. Why would you even post a link to it?
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So you did not know that Ike warned of dangers in a Military Industrial Complex, in his farewell ?

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My point being whether or not you knew of it before today. Thanks.

Hence, I find the following assertions to be erroneous.



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Yeah, that's right. One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency, and you're falling all over yourself trying to make it sound like you're schooling everyone here about it. Three posts trying to cram the notion into your critics' mouths that they've never heard the concept before you told them. Instead of your point always being to try to belittle or entrap people here, try making it, you know, a point.

To wit...


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"Everyone"? "Your critics'"? "they"? He was inquiring if a single member who is known for starting threads mocking clueless conspiracy theorists really has never heard about Ike's "creation", and this is a legitimate inquiry given the context.



In addition to all those 'you' words belying the "No one is addressed" comment,


That looks like a defensive end run attempting to cover for the mumbers oblivion re One of the most well-known phrases attached to the Eisenhower presidency



I cannot see how anyone could overlook that it was directed to one certain member, rather than all.

IIRC,,the issue was whether or not the member knew of Ike's MIC warning, not whether or not all members did.

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In the new video I thought there was one offensive part, when she bragged
about having once turned beer into water.



The other way around would be worth real money.
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The other way around would be worth real money.
I can turn water into beer.

I will require some grains, herbs and yeast as well, but it's not that challenging.
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I can turn water into beer.

I will require some grains, herbs and yeast as well, but it's not that challenging.
I've got a ton of creeping charlie in my back yard, if you'd like a medieval flavor to it.
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I've got a ton of creeping charlie in my back yard, if you'd like a medieval flavor to it.
Thanks, but I prefer fresh spruce tips for my gruit. Although I have a solid recipe for one using heather, bog myrtle and yarrow.
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I always knew Ike had a pair of nuts on him, I just didn't think one would turn out to be his great-grand daughter.
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So I was a bit bored and went to banned.video to see what AJ is up to these days and watched half an hour of him yelling at the guy with the horns we all saw sitting inside the capitol during that "storm" - the guy he referred to as "Q Shaman". What the guy was saying during the short time AJ was allowing him to speak was interesting enough to me to look up his video account that was shown at the end of the AJ segment. And what I found was bizarre enough to invite you to another high weirdness ride: Meet Captain America!
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So I was a bit bored and went to banned.video to see what AJ is up to these days and watched half an hour of him yelling at the guy with the horns we all saw sitting inside the capitol during that "storm" - the guy he referred to as "Q Shaman". What the guy was saying during the short time AJ was allowing him to speak was interesting enough to me to look up his video account that was shown at the end of the AJ segment. And what I found was bizarre enough to invite you to another high weirdness ride: Meet Captain America!
Das kannst du deiner Oma erzählen

Well that was a bucket of crazy. Thanks
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Old 4th March 2021, 12:29 PM   #79
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Why should you "have to"? To "debunk" it? None of the people who watched them even tried to, it's just far beyond that realm. I shared Mrs. Eisenhower's appearances not to mock her or to prove her wrong, but just for the love of the extraordinary, and agree with statements made by marplots and Fener Fan that they are jaw-dropping fascinating. Take it or leave it.
I agree with bruto's sentiment, if I get it correctly. It's like being told there's been a train wreck with no survivors. That is information worth knowing, and some people would be fascinated enough to go on site to observe the carnage, whereas others are glad to be spared that actual experience.

I, on the other hand, did watch a few minutes, and was not impressed. In my opinion, just a poor deluded person trained/coached enough to regurgitate new-age psychobabble in grandiose, yet essentially meaningless, generalities that impress the easily manipulated. This is most obvious when she says, "you know", as she speaks of her most ethereal concepts, in order to reinforce her own ignis fatuus.
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Old 4th March 2021, 12:50 PM   #80
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I agree with bruto's sentiment, if I get it correctly. It's like being told there's been a train wreck with no survivors. That is information worth knowing, and some people would be fascinated enough to go on site to observe the carnage, whereas others are glad to be spared that actual experience.

I, on the other hand, did watch a few minutes, and was not impressed. In my opinion, just a poor deluded person trained/coached enough to regurgitate new-age psychobabble in grandiose, yet essentially meaningless, generalities that impress the easily manipulated. This is most obvious when she says, "you know", as she speaks of her most ethereal concepts, in order to reinforce her own ignis fatuus.

The answer is already in my quoted post: Take it or leave it.

In this thread I share material that I find fascinating from a point of love for the extraordinary. The point is not to "debunk", mock, promote or any other judgement at all.
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