Continuation Trump et al continued “2020 election” conspiracy theories

[The Great Zaganza]

Originally Posted by Gaetan

The democrats can show all the videos they want, Trump never told them to attack the house. They look like racists who accuse a black because some black did a criminal act.

What you are saying is that Trump lacks any understanding of his supporters so that he could not have known what his words might cause, or what different words might have prevented.

[Darat]

Topic of this thread is not the impeachment, if you want to discuss that take it to an appropriate thread in the USA Politics section.

Posted By:Darat

[Captain_Swoop]

Lin Wood claims he's now representing Sidney Powell in her Dominion defamation case

[Galaxie]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Lin Wood claims he's now representing Sidney Powell in her Dominion defamation case

Oh my

[gnome]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Lin Wood claims he's now representing Sidney Powell in her Dominion defamation case

For some reason that is making me smile.

[eerok]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Lin Wood claims he's now representing Sidney Powell in her Dominion defamation case

That's awesome.

[Craig4]

Originally Posted by eerok

That's awesome.

Seems a bit like asking a dingo to babysit.

[eerok]

Originally Posted by Craig4

Seems a bit like asking a dingo to babysit.

Well, except that Wood and Powell deserve each other.

[Resume]

Cluster, meet ****.

[Trebuchet]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Lin Wood claims he's now representing Sidney Powell in her Dominion defamation case

Proving there can be something even dumber than a lawyer representing himself.

[SuburbanTurkey]

Lin Wood is now encouraging his "Patriot Army" to dig up dirt on the GA state bar members that are going to be deciding if he is fit to practice law. He posted their personal info in this plea for dirt, so they are almost certainly going to be receiving all sorts of deranged threats.

Doxxing the people adjudicating his bar license, a big brain play.

https://twitter.com/JEandJL/status/1360865751381381121

[Steve]

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey

Lin Wood is now encouraging his "Patriot Army" to dig up dirt on the GA state bar members that are going to be deciding if he is fit to practice law. He posted their personal info in this plea for dirt, so they are almost certainly going to be receiving all sorts of deranged threats.

Doxxing the people adjudicating his bar license, a big brain play.

https://twitter.com/JEandJL/status/1360865751381381121

Nothing to lose really. Disbarment is almost a given.

[SteveAitch]

Originally Posted by Steve

Nothing to lose really. Disbarment is almost a given.

Yeah, but now he can claim he didn't get a fair hearing because they were biassed against him...

[MRC_Hans]

Originally Posted by SteveAitch

Yeah, but now he can claim he didn't get a fair hearing because they were biassed against him...

Well, who will care?

Hans

[CORed]

Originally Posted by Gaetan

The democrats can show all the videos they want, Trump never told them to attack the house. They look like racists who accuse a black because some black did a criminal act.

To me, the most damning evidence against Trump was his dereliction of duty after the attack was underway. Regardless of what he intended to happen as a result of months of lies about a stolen election and his incendiary speech on Jan. 6, his inaction after the attack started is grounds, in and of itself, for impeachment.

Even if you believe (I don't), that Trump had no idea what would happen and no desire for it to happen, once it did happen, he had an obligation to do everything in his power, from telling his followers to stop, to sending in troops, national guard, or whatever forces were available. Instead, by all accounts he did nothing for hours, and was pleased that it happened, and even sent an inflammatory tweet about VP Pence while he was still in danger, and told House Minority Leader McCarthy, when he asked for help, "Apparently they are more upset about the election than you are." His inaction during the attack is criminal in and of itself, and is significant circumstantial evidence that he fully intended the attack to happen.

My personal belief, unsupported so far by hard evidence, is that Trump was complicit in the planning of the attack. While my unsupported belief is not grounds for impeachment, sufficient grounds exist without it. I fully expect, that as the investigation proceeds, that Trump's complicity will be established. What happened on Jan. 6 was not just some wackos responding over enthusiastically to months of lies and overheated rhetoric; it was a full blown coup attempt. What I think would have happened, had the Capitol Police and the Secret Service not succeeded in getting Pence and members of Congress to (more or less) safety, is that they would have been held hostage, and that Pence, Pelosi and members of Congress would have been murdered until they were able to force a vote to overturn the election. I'm pretty sure we escaped becoming a fascist dictatorship by the skin of our teeth.

[The Great Zaganza]

the fact that Trump didn't join the mob on the way to the Capitol, despite him promising he would, is clear evidence to me that he knew things would get violent.

It's also clear evidence of his supporters being gullible morons.

[Norman Alexander]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Lin Wood claims he's now representing Sidney Powell in her Dominion defamation case

[Paul2]

Originally Posted by Gaetan

The democrats can show all the videos they want, Trump never told them to attack the house. They look like racists who accuse a black because some black did a criminal act.

What was worse than the attack - unbelievably, because the attack was horrible - was that Trump had tried for months - even before the election - to undermine the election itself, and I'm not talking about the lawsuits he lost, which he was entirely justified to bring. It was the Big Lie that the election was stolen, that there was fraud to overturn the election, and asking the Georgia SoS to find him enough votes so he could win.

When you undermine an election in those ways (and more), you exactly *don't* "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" when those elections are constitutionally authorized.

[Firestone]

Next up: Dominion Sues MyPillow guy over election claims for ... $1.3 billion in damages.

Quote:

Dominion Voting Systems sued Mike Lindell, chief executive of Minnesota-based MyPillow Inc., and his company in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, seeking more than $1.3 billion in damages.

In its complaint, the company cites a number of statements made by Mr. Lindell, including in media appearances, social-media posts, and a two-hour film claiming to prove widespread election fraud. Mr. Lindell said he helped produce the film, which he released online in early February.

The complaint alleges that Mr. Lindell made false claims about the integrity of Dominion’s voting machines and that he knew no credible evidence supported his claims that the company had stolen the election from Mr. Trump—what Dominion has called the “Big Lie.”

“He is well aware of the independent audits and paper ballot recounts conclusively disproving the Big Lie,” the complaint states. “But Lindell…sells the lie to this day because the lie sells pillows.”


https://www.wsj.com/articles/dominio...ms-11613996104 (WSJ, paywalled)

ETA: in case you worry for the MyPillow guy, you shouldn't: I did the math.

The regular price for a pillow is $69.98.
All he need is sell 1.3000.000.000/69.98 = 18,576,736 pillows, and he's in the clear. If every Trump voter buys one pillow, that's already 74,216,154 75,000,000 at least 80,000,000 pillows, netting more than 5 billion.

[SteveAitch]

Originally Posted by Firestone

Next up: Dominion Sues MyPillow guy over election claims for ... $1.3 billion in damages.



ETA: in case you worry for the MyPillow guy, you shouldn't: I did the math.

The regular price for a pillow is $69.98.
All he need is sell 1.3000.000.000/69.98 = 18,576,736 pillows, and he's in the clear. If every Trump voter buys one pillow, that's already 74,216,154 75,000,000 at least 80,000,000 pillows, netting more than 5 billion.

Ah, that would be why his ads have suddenly appeared in the Radio Times (UK listings mag). Full page too. And a special offer of 2 for the price of one!

[Steve]

Originally Posted by SteveAitch

Ah, that would be why his ads have suddenly appeared in the Radio Times (UK listings mag). Full page too. And a special offer of 2 for the price of one!

So he actually needs to sell (and make) 37 million pillows!

[Fast Eddie B]

Originally Posted by Firestone

If every Trump voter buys one pillow, that's already 74,216,154 75,000,000 at least 80,000,000 pillows, netting more than 5 billion.

GROSSING more than 5 billion. What’s left after manufacturing costs and advertising and taxes and payroll and...

I know you were probably being facetious, but it’s a mistake a lot of folks make when they wonder how a big business can be failing while raking in huge revenues.

[Firestone]

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B

GROSSING more than 5 billion. What’s left after manufacturing costs and advertising and taxes and payroll and...

I know you were probably being facetious, but it’s a mistake a lot of folks make when they wonder how a big business can be failing while raking in huge revenues.

Correct.

To be honest, (and derail the thread), English obviously not being my first language, I never thought about the etymology of the word netting in the context of getting revenue. I hadn't connected it to the concept op net income after expenses and taxes.

[The Great Zaganza]

Clearly, Dominon waited to see if Lindell would do even more to incriminate himself.

[JayUtah]

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Clearly, Dominon waited to see if Lindell would do even more to incriminate himself.

Defamation is pretty hard to prove in court. The First Amendment holds a lot of sway in these cases. So it can be a defensible legal strategy to let as much evidence accumulate as the doctrine of laches allows, and then go to court with clear evidence of an intent to defame.

[Paul2]

Originally Posted by Steve

So he actually needs to sell (and make) 37 million pillows!

Or, he could just sell one pillow for $1.3 billion.

Check my math.

[Trebuchet]

Originally Posted by Paul2

Or, he could just sell one pillow for $1.3 billion.

And get Mexico to pay for it.

[Matthew Ellard]

Originally Posted by Paul2

Or, he could just sell one pillow for $1.3 billion.

Check my math.

That was really interesting. If Mr Pillow, really believed his own crap and didn't care about giving the prosecution more evidence, he probably could sell pillowslips with anti-science woo printed on them for a couple of hundred bucks each.

Tom Palven and Caroline13 would probably buy them.

[dudalb]

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Clearly, Dominon waited to see if Lindell would do even more to incriminate himself.

And, boy ,did he oblige them......
Even other Trump Media supporters avoided Lindell because they saw he was headed into a world of hurt. You don't make an accusation like that openly, you hint, suggest, insinuate, yes, but you leave yourself some legal wriggle room. Lindell did not.Going to cost him a lot of money.
I wonder if he is not using the Peruvian Marching Powder again....

[gregthehammer]

Originally Posted by dudalb

And, boy ,did he oblige them......
Even other Trump Media supporters avoided Lindell because they saw he was headed into a world of hurt. You don't make an accusation like that openly, you hint, suggest, insinuate, yes, but you leave yourself some legal wriggle room. Lindell did not.Going to cost him a lot of money.
I wonder if he is not using the Peruvian Marching Powder again....

Could be. Has he been hanging around Donnie Jr?

[bonzombiekitty]

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Clearly, Dominon waited to see if Lindell would do even more to incriminate himself.

Well part of the process of a defamation lawsuit is you have to send a letter to the other person telling him/her to stop and retract statements. You need to give them a chance to fix the problem. They did that with Lindell, and then he just continued. So the lawsuit goes forward.

[The Great Zaganza]

Originally Posted by bonzombiekitty

Well part of the process of a defamation lawsuit is you have to send a letter to the other person telling him/her to stop and retract statements. You need to give them a chance to fix the problem. They did that with Lindell, and then he just continued. So the lawsuit goes forward.

the lawsuit would have gone forward in any case, but doing retractions the way FOX and Newsmaxx did entitles them to a reduction in damages.

[Aridas]

To poke at this...

‘It’s Going to Be Like Myanmar.’ Trump Cult Convinced Military Coup Will Put Him Back in Office

Quote:

O’Sullivan then asked, “Would you like to see [a coup] happen?”

“I would like to see it,” one man replied.

Sounding stunned, O’Sullivan asked, “Really?”

“You know why? Because the election was stolen from us!” another woman answered.

I sorta wish I was surprised, but... the fervent desire for a coup in the case that they lost has been easily predictable since years ago.

[Pacal]

Mike Pence, Former VP, is now on record talking about voting irregularities and continuing to push the stolen election fraud in an op-ed. He dresses it up has concern about the Bill being proposed that would change some of the election rules, it would for example such "terrible" things has try to stop the practice of gerrymandering! Oh how terrible?!

The submission of Republicans to the most holy and divine Trump continues, and Mike Pence's backbone is again jelly.

[Aridas]

To poke at a bit of the "interesting" fallout from some of this...

Quote:

But the most embarrassing state GOP idiocy of the week may belong to the Republican-controlled state Senate in Arizona. After months of subpoenas to elections officials, ordering them to turn over all 2.1 million ballots cast in Maricopa County (Phoenix) last year -- and even coming within one vote of throwing elections officials there in jail for following state law by securely retaining custody of the ballots cast in the County last November -- a state judge finally ordered Maricopa officials to obey the subpoena to deliver all ballots to the Senate, so they could count them themselves. They were all delivered, 73 pallets of them, this week. And guess what? Senate Republicans have no idea what to do with them now.

[MRC_Hans]

Originally Posted by Aridas

To poke at a bit of the "interesting" fallout from some of this...

Typical. They claim many millions of votes were false. For this claim not to be immediately ridiculous, they had to suppress the image of how 70 tons of false ballots could be sneaked in without everybody noticing. Well, now they can see it clearly.

Hans

[Craig4]

Originally Posted by Pacal

Mike Pence, Former VP, is now on record talking about voting irregularities and continuing to push the stolen election fraud in an op-ed. He dresses it up has concern about the Bill being proposed that would change some of the election rules, it would for example such "terrible" things has try to stop the practice of gerrymandering! Oh how terrible?!

The submission of Republicans to the most holy and divine Trump continues, and Mike Pence's backbone is again jelly.

Let's just face it. Fraud is codespeak for black and brown. When they say there was fraud, what they mean is that there were too many black and brown people voting. Everyone just needs to read "black and brown" every time they see the word "fraud".

[sts60]

The Supreme Court just stiff-armed crazy, vicious, anti-democracy Lin Wood’s last lawsuit. Bye, you America-hating loser! Enjoy getting sued for every penny you have by the companies you libeled!

[Resume]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Quote:

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell has urged "criminals" involved in a massive voter fraud conspiracy to contact him for help in arranging reduced prison sentences.

Lindell, a proponent of the baseless theory that the 2020 presidential was "stolen" from former President Donald Trump, made the remarks during an appearance on The Charlie Kirk Show podcast that was released on Friday. Lindell promised that a flood of evidence validating the theory would soon emerge, while offering to help cut deals similar to "the old mafia days" for those involved in the purported plot.

"There will be a big surprise of evidence," Lindell said. "There's going to be whistleblowers. There's going to be people that work within organizations that are going to come forward so that they don't get longer prison sentences. I will tell everyone out there right now: If you want to reach out to me, you probably should if you're one of the criminals, because maybe you can work out a deal. So you don't get, you know, the longest sentences."

This has to be performance art.

[Susheel]

Originally Posted by Resume

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!



This has to be performance art.

But...but...didn't he already have a huge flood of evidence weeks ago that he was supposedly going to reveal over Newsmax or OANN (why do I always read that as Onan)?