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Old 27th February 2021, 08:56 AM   #1
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Is this a case of mass hysteria?

https://youtu.be/1U9Oo6zF5Vs

I'm not a fan of the paranormal but ghost stories like this one intrigue me. Its one thing for one person to see a ghost but an entire crew of a submarine?
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Old 27th February 2021, 09:09 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
https://youtu.be/1U9Oo6zF5Vs

I'm not a fan of the paranormal but ghost stories like this one intrigue me. Its one thing for one person to see a ghost but an entire crew of a submarine?
Was this a submarine with a ghost on board or a submarine with a whole ghost crew?
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Old 27th February 2021, 04:11 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
https://youtu.be/1U9Oo6zF5Vs
I'm not a fan of the paranormal but ghost stories like this one intrigue me.
It's not a true story.

According to researchers George Behe and Michael Goss, the stories about hauntings from UB-65 were invented by the journalist Hector Charles Bywater, who wrote about the subject. They speculated that Bywater was a good story teller who had invented some of his references, such as a post-war pamphlet written by a "Dr. Hecht". Behe and Goss concluded that "Official documents make it extremely difficult to believe that UB-65 was haunted... The responsibility for that rumour-like legend in all its dramatic detail cannot be traced back with any certainty before Hector C. Bywater
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM_UB-65
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Old 27th February 2021, 04:20 PM   #4
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Was the account of the haunting from the crew or just made up by the first journalist known to have mentioned a ghost aboard the U-Boat, Hector C. Bywater, whose account cites at least some imaginary sources?

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Old 27th February 2021, 05:40 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
https://youtu.be/1U9Oo6zF5Vs

I'm not a fan of the paranormal but ghost stories like this one intrigue me. Its one thing for one person to see a ghost but an entire crew of a submarine?
Haha obviously you are a fan of the paranormal.

But for me, it's a case of youtube, didn't watch.
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Old 27th February 2021, 06:18 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
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I'm not a fan of the paranormal but ghost stories like this one intrigue me. Its one thing for one person to see a ghost but an entire crew of a submarine?
what's your opinion on it?
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Old 28th February 2021, 09:41 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by p0lka View Post
what's your opinion on it?
I thought the story but I also thought the "ghost" sightings were the result of mass hysteria and the stresses of war and the difficulties submarine sailors faced on a daily basis.
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Old 28th February 2021, 05:58 PM   #8
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The ocean's full of ghosts. When a submarine passes through some haunted water, the ocean ghosts just stay in the same place, passing through the hull like the incorporeal spirits they are. That means they're quickly left behind, so most of the time they're not even noticed by the crew. But once in a while s a hysterical crew of a slow-moving sub will spot one.
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Carbon dioxide or monoxide poisoning can also create confusion, hallucinations and distorted memory. It's more usual for the monoxide one, because high levels of CO2 can be downright painful, so you tend to notice. But still they can bring you to downright borderline OOB experiences.

So I wouldn't find it particularly unbelievable if some sub had to stay under way past what it had air for, and the crew started experiencing weird stuff.

Or a particularly damaged diesel engine COULD theoretically leak carbon monoxide if you're running it at snorkel depth.

In this case, though, it's just sensationalist fiction.
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CO2 can also trigger anxiety attacks and hallucinations (especially the auditory kind) in people with schizophrenia. In fact, past a point they trigger both quite reliably. Though I would find it extremely unlikely that a whole submarine were crewed with schizophrenics, unless it's a part of some twisted experiment.
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The Curse of the Submarine crew's ghost.

Was the Ghost that the crew saw cursed?
Or was the submarine's crew cursed?
Or was the ghost of the submarine's crew cursed?
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The Curse of the Submarine crew's ghost.

Was the Ghost that the crew saw cursed?
Or was the submarine's crew cursed?
Or was the ghost of the submarine's crew cursed?

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Yep, that's what I based it on.
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Yep, that's what I based it on.

Brought back some fond memories for me. Have a peanut butter, egg, and dice sandwich on me for that.
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There is an RC-135V that's nicknamed "Damien" by many aircrews because it seems to have a mind of its own. It's a simple matter of establishing a reputation and assigning everything that goes wrong to the curse/ghost/gremlins.
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I thought the story but I also thought the "ghost" sightings were the result of mass hysteria and the stresses of war and the difficulties submarine sailors faced on a daily basis.
No, just merely a lie.
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