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Old 8th September 2003, 06:22 AM   #1
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racism ? Bustamante + Schwarzenegger

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- Schwarzenegger’s father was a member of the Nazi Party in Austria. Arnold also was a lifelong friend of Austrian President Kurt Waldheim, who was revealed to have aided and abetted the Nazis in WWII. As part of his administrative duties during the war, Waldheim approved a propaganda leaflet which included the phrase, "enough of the Jewish war, kill the Jews.…" Even after such information came to light, Schwarzenegger (did you know his last name means "Black Ni**er" in German?) was quoted as saying, "My friends don't want me to mention Kurt's name, because of all the recent Nazi stuff…but I love him." In 1977, during the filming of his steroidal epic Pumping Iron, Arnold allegedly said that he "admired" Hitler. And a 1992 article by Spy magazine quoted a "friend" of Schwarzenegger’s saying that back in the 1970s, Arnold "enjoyed playing and giving away records of Hitler’s speeches."

- While a college student in the 1970s, Cruz Bustamante (did you know his last name means "Bus 'em in, man" in Spanish?) belonged to a radical Mexican campus organization called MEChA, an acronym for Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán, which translates as "Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán." MEChA’s logo is an eagle clutching a stick of dynamite and a machete in its claws. Its slogan is, "For the race, everything; for those outside the race, nothing." The word "Aztlán" is used to describe the Southwestern United States, which MEChA claims has always belonged to Mexicans and will one day be wrested from the "gringo" invaders and returned to Mexico. The group’s constitution declares that "the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny."

Although Schwarzenegger has gone to great pains to donate money to Jewish causes and repudiate his past, Bustamante refuses to apologize for his involvement in MEChA.

Naturally, left-wingers will harp on Arnold’s past, while right-wingers will blather on about Bustamante’s past. Belonging to neither wing, I merely share this information with you and trust you to draw your own conclusions.

The Democrats should pray it doesn't come down to the swimsuit competition, because Arnold would be a shoo-in.

guess who
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"He’s pulled back the curtain to reveal places like Harvard as the gratuitous institutions they’ve become ever since graduating the Unabomber (and other like-minded lunatics) who can justify terrorism all too easily with the moral indifference of postmodernism."
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Old 8th September 2003, 07:40 AM   #2
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For those who are having trouble distingushing between supporters of these two groups, I suggest that one should compare and contrast them.

Nazi - The ruling party of a major industrial power that used their considerable influence to wage war and engage in a systematic program of genocide.
MEChA - A college organization that talked about doing things, but did not actually do anything.

Clear now?
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Old 8th September 2003, 07:48 AM   #3
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For those who are having trouble distingushing between supporters of these two groups, I suggest that one should compare and contrast them.

Nazi - The ruling party of a major industrial power that used their considerable influence to wage war and engage in a systematic program of genocide.
MEChA - A college organization that talked about doing things, but did not actually do anything.

Clear now?
its always muddy coming out of your mouth.

you failed to mention that Arnold's father (not Arnold) was affiliated and your assertion that being involved with a hate group that didnt actually commit mass violence is somehow okay, makes me vomit.
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"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." - Louis D. Brandeis

"He’s pulled back the curtain to reveal places like Harvard as the gratuitous institutions they’ve become ever since graduating the Unabomber (and other like-minded lunatics) who can justify terrorism all too easily with the moral indifference of postmodernism."
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Old 8th September 2003, 07:51 AM   #4
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its always muddy coming out of your mouth.

you failed to mention that Arnold's father (not Arnold) was affiliated and your assertion that being involved with a hate group that didnt actually commit mass violence is somehow okay, makes me vomit.
Thanks for clarifying. It's hard to tell what's a legit puke and what's your usual bile on this forum.
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Old 8th September 2003, 07:58 AM   #5
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Thanks for clarifying. It's hard to tell what's a legit puke and what's your usual bile on this forum.

in most forums, one usually has to read the content of someone's post in order to determine if it's intelligent, but as soon as I see your name on a post Im quite sure it's pro-kinetic. That means its only good for enducing bowel movements.
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"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." - Louis D. Brandeis

"He’s pulled back the curtain to reveal places like Harvard as the gratuitous institutions they’ve become ever since graduating the Unabomber (and other like-minded lunatics) who can justify terrorism all too easily with the moral indifference of postmodernism."
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Old 8th September 2003, 08:06 AM   #6
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its always muddy coming out of your mouth.

you failed to mention that Arnold's father (not Arnold) was affiliated and your assertion that being involved with a hate group that didnt actually commit mass violence is somehow okay, makes me vomit.
Huh?

I did not discuss Arnold's father because he was not the topic of discussion. After all, it is Arnold, and not his father, who is running for governor.
And as far as the other group, they did not do anything illegal (at least that I know of), so what is the big deal?
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Old 8th September 2003, 08:26 AM   #7
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Re: racism ? Bustamante + Schwarzenegger

From the link posted by NTW:
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(did you know his last name means "Black Ni**er" in German?)
No, it doesn't.

Look here


Or here:

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Anyway, to break down Schwarzenegger's name you cut it in half like so Schwarzen-egger. The "n" goes with the Schwarz which is a general rule- like Totenkopf for example (Tot + Kopf= dead head) or the name of the popular punk German band die Totenhosen (literally the dead trousers- they're pretty good actually). You could say the "en" gets added to make the word more phonetically palatable. Totkopf or Schwarzegger just don't have a good feel coming off the tongue.

So we've go Schwarzen which is the adjective "black" modified for a compound word plus "egger". The German noun "Egge" (f) means "harrow", which is an instrument used to break up rough soil in farming. In German, like English, most times you make the person who does the action by adding "er" or simply "r" if the noun already has an "e" at the end. So "Egge" becomes "egger" (harrower) and quite literally, Scharzenegger means "black harrower" or as I saw Arnie say once "black man plowing" (or as Califelephant said black plowman).


Or it could simply mean that one of Arnold's ancestors came to Austria from Schwarzenegg in Swizerland.
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Schwarzenegger’s father was a member of the Nazi Party in Austria. Arnold also was a lifelong friend of Austrian President Kurt Waldheim, who was revealed to have aided and abetted the Nazis in WWII. As part of his administrative duties during the war, Waldheim approved a propaganda leaflet which included the phrase, "enough of the Jewish war, kill the Jews.…" Even after such information came to light, Schwarzenegger (did you know his last name means "Black Ni**er" in German?) was quoted as saying, "My friends don't want me to mention Kurt's name, because of all the recent Nazi stuff…but I love him." In 1977, during the filming of his steroidal epic Pumping Iron, Arnold allegedly said that he "admired" Hitler.
Dear N.T.W:

I highlighted two rather important words in this paragraph, which you seem to have missed. To translate:

"father"==not him;

"allegedly"==an accusation pulled out of thin air.

No need to thank me.
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Old 8th September 2003, 01:50 PM   #9
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Dear N.T.W:

I highlighted two rather important words in this paragraph, which you seem to have missed. To translate:

"father"==not him;

"allegedly"==an accusation pulled out of thin air.

No need to thank me.
You do realize that now the republiguns have realized what Arny thinks, they are doing their best to be rid of him, don't you?
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You do realize that now the republiguns have realized what Arny thinks, they are doing their best to be rid of him, don't you?
okay pea-brain, am I supposed to fall in line with the "republiguns" and do whatever it is they say ?


shut up.

get a new shtick.
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"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." - Louis D. Brandeis

"He’s pulled back the curtain to reveal places like Harvard as the gratuitous institutions they’ve become ever since graduating the Unabomber (and other like-minded lunatics) who can justify terrorism all too easily with the moral indifference of postmodernism."
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You do realize that now the republiguns have realized what Arny thinks, they are doing their best to be rid of him, don't you?
I like the term "repugnicans" better.
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I like the term "repugnicans" better.
you guys and your cute little games.


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"The guys who own the most real estate in Los Angeles are Europeans. There are people coming over from Yugoslavia with hardly any money...a friend of mine came over from Czechoslovakia in '68 and he now owns four apartment buildings. Americans are still sitting on their asses waiting for it. Europeans are hungry because we don't have that much."

"What I want to do is make Americans aware that they're f**ked-up when they equate everything a person does with some sexual trip. . You know, if you hold a pencil in your hand, it's a phallic symbol and you really want to hold a c**k in your hand. And a football coach doesn't really want to be a coach, he likes to slap football players' asses...he's a latent homosexual. And it goes on and on and on, all the f**king time."

"America is so money-oriented. (Thank God! It's always helped me!) But it has its disadvantages because the psychiatrists know their business doesn't mean a thing if there are no sick people around, and so they make everybody feel guilty. You know, all New York City is running to a psychiatrist. All America thinks it has sexual hang ups. Everybody's running to shrinks."

"Nixon was always being attacked sexually. It was always said that he was a fag and that he had no sexual relations with his wife for 15 years and that was why he liked power. And Hitler had only one ball, and that was why he wanted to conquer the world."

Im begining to like this guy.
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"Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficial. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." - Louis D. Brandeis

"He’s pulled back the curtain to reveal places like Harvard as the gratuitous institutions they’ve become ever since graduating the Unabomber (and other like-minded lunatics) who can justify terrorism all too easily with the moral indifference of postmodernism."
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Old 8th September 2003, 02:45 PM   #13
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you guys and your cute little games.





Im begining to like this guy.
How about editing the odd cuss-word? Family-friendly forum and all.

It's dimwits like you that keep this forum from being accessed by schools and libraries.
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okay pea-brain, am I supposed to fall in line with the "republiguns" and do whatever it is they say ?

Beats me. Do you?

shut up.

Son, go to your room. When you are ready to apologize, come out and tell me, and apologize, and I'll let you have your MayPo.

get a new shtick.
No, old one works fine, but you should use the Shick in the morning before school.
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