[FYI] The Forum's future - Page 2

jsfisher · 4th September 2014, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by bookitty

Will the new terms and conditions be the same as the current ones?

arhwollipot had provided this post in one of the original forum transition threads.

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Public Notice: Changes are a-coming!

The Forum's Future
Input Requested: Terms and conditions for the International Skeptics Forum

Just for those folks who might not have seen them.

CelticRose · 4th September 2014, 05:56 PM

Thanks for the information.

Will a mass email go out at the time of the Big Move to let both active and inactive members know that there's a new forum?

BazBear · 4th September 2014, 07:49 PM

Great news! My thanks go out to all involved in saving our fair ~~city~~ forum from oblivion.

AdMan · 4th September 2014, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by BazBear

Great news! My thanks go out to all involved in saving our fair ~~city~~ forum from oblivion.

Given the recent developments in the mess that the JREF appears to be (and though I'm still rooting for them), I'm now kind of glad we're sailing off on our own.

This is The End · 4th September 2014, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Darat

<snip>and will be given the option to transfer their existing email address, name <snip>

This might be a silly question but I can't for the life of me seem to find in the control panel anywhere what all personal information I gave. Am I not finding a page or something?

Michel H · 4th September 2014, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by OnlyTellsTruths

This might be a silly question but I can't for the life of me seem to find in the control panel anywhere what all personal information I gave. Am I not finding a page or something?

On the top of this page, click "Use CP", "Edit Your Details", "Edit Email ...", you should see your e-mail address (you may, however, need to answer the "verification question" before clicking on "Edit Email ...")

This is The End · 4th September 2014, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Michel H

On the top of this page, click "Use CP", "Edit Your Details", "Edit Email ...", you should see your e-mail address (you may, however, need to answer the "verification question" before clicking on "Edit Email ...")

I saw that. And I now see that the DOB is part of the border/heading, I kept skimming past that and not registering it. And I'm assuming name must not be visible to the end user?

rjh01 · 4th September 2014, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by OnlyTellsTruths

This might be a silly question but I can't for the life of me seem to find in the control panel anywhere what all personal information I gave. Am I not finding a page or something?

I think you are searching for a non-existent page.

Darat · 5th September 2014, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by CelticRose

Thanks for the information.

Will a mass email go out at the time of the Big Move to let both active and inactive members know that there's a new forum?

Yes. Although I don't think it will be needed as I expect the changes will make the leading story on all reputable news media.

Darat · 5th September 2014, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by OnlyTellsTruths

I saw that. And I now see that the DOB is part of the border/heading, I kept skimming past that and not registering it. And I'm assuming name must not be visible to the end user?

Look under usercp>your profile and the second tab?

zooterkin · 5th September 2014, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

Look under usercp>your profile and the second tab?

I think she's asking for the personal information supplied as part of membership approval. It's not visible to users, only to Admins. (I don't even know where it is held.)

Darat · 5th September 2014, 04:23 AM

I thought it was as read only? Try going to your profile and looking... Mind you I do wonder how someone may have forgotten their own name.....

Darat · 5th September 2014, 04:32 AM

Just tried with Testbot and you can't see even your own required info. Sorry for the confusion.

JihadJane · 6th September 2014, 11:30 AM

Thanks to everybody who's worked on this.

Gawdzilla Sama · 6th September 2014, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by bookitty

Will the new terms and conditions be the same as the current ones?

Scroll down. Click "I agree". Move on.

Donn · 6th September 2014, 12:31 PM

The future is nigh!

temporalillusion · 7th September 2014, 11:32 AM

Test post after move to new server.

Darat · 7th September 2014, 12:04 PM

Stage 1

The (current) JREF Forum will be transferred to new hardware. This will require downtime expected to be 3 to 6 hours but may be longer. It’s hoped that this stage will occur before Sept 9, 2014. The site will remain under the ownership of the JREF and day to day control will remain with the current moderation team. There are likely to be a couple of additional "technical admins" created to help ensure everything goes as planned. Any new technical admins will be announced as per usual and their roles will be limited to technical matters rather than moderation.

One down....

AdMan · 7th September 2014, 12:06 PM

Woohoo!

calebprime · 7th September 2014, 12:12 PM

Damn.

dasmiller · 7th September 2014, 12:16 PM

Hmm . . . still has that 'new server smell' . . .

rdaneel · 7th September 2014, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by dasmiller

Hmm . . . still has that 'new server smell' . . .

I love the smell of new servers in the morning, smells like... Victory!

icerat · 7th September 2014, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by rdaneel

I love the smell of new servers in the morning, smells like... Victory!

Hmmm .. it all went suspiciously too smoothly for my liking, entirely un-IT like ....

Gawdzilla Sama · 7th September 2014, 12:55 PM

I want my puppy now.

xterra · 7th September 2014, 01:44 PM

Looking around, I see that someone swept the floors here in the new home of the forum before we moved in.

Very nice, very efficient move.

Hearty congratulations to the team.

(This post duplicates a post in the thread "Future of the Forum," now that the future has arrived.)

icerat · 7th September 2014, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by xterra

Looking around, I see that someone swept the floors here in the new home of the forum before we moved in.

Very nice, very efficient move.

Hearty congratulations to the team.

Credit goes to temporalillusion, darat, and Rick Adams@JREF, with some preparation assistance from Ben Burch.

Some minor glitches popping up, which was expected and being looked in to.

Donn · 7th September 2014, 02:13 PM

A few Gateway timeouts (nginx

) errors. Not too bad. Good ssh-fu chaps!

icerat · 7th September 2014, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Donn

A few Gateway timeouts (nginx

) errors. Not too bad. Good ssh-fu chaps!

Are they still occurring since the two earlier reports?

Donn · 7th September 2014, 02:48 PM

Nope - and I'll use the problems thread in future.

ctamblyn · 7th September 2014, 02:50 PM

I haven't seen any more either.

beelzebub · 7th September 2014, 03:58 PM

Hi Guys, sorry if this has been said elsewhere, but do we know when the new forum will be up and running? From several comments above, it sounds like it should be up now (in some form or other), but I just get a "Web site is under construction" message (At 'http://www.internationalskeptics.com/')

Jim

rjh01 · 7th September 2014, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by beelzebub

Hi Guys, sorry if this has been said elsewhere, but do we know when the new forum will be up and running? From several comments above, it sounds like it should be up now (in some form or other), but I just get a "Web site is under construction" message (At 'http://www.internationalskeptics.com/')

Jim

Read the OP. Looks like stage 1 has been completed. Stage 2 is when we go to the new forum. Stage 2 has not yet happened.

icerat · 7th September 2014, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by beelzebub

Hi Guys, sorry if this has been said elsewhere, but do we know when the new forum will be up and running? From several comments above, it sounds like it should be up now (in some form or other), but I just get a "Web site is under construction" message (At 'http://www.internationalskeptics.com/')

Jim

Originally Posted by rjh01

Read the OP. Looks like stage 1 has been completed. Stage 2 is when we go to the new forum. Stage 2 has not yet happened.

Correct. A few things need to be done before we become ISF. One of which is decide on a logo and colour scheme etc.

Christian Klippel · 7th September 2014, 04:25 PM

Yeah, that looked like it went really smooth. And it's pretty fast now, too. Well, it already was quite a bit faster after you folks finally looked into it, but now...

Great work!

Greetings,

Chris

bpesta22 · 7th September 2014, 04:33 PM

Good news. Be sure to tip your server.

beelzebub · 7th September 2014, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by rjh01

Read the OP. Looks like stage 1 has been completed. Stage 2 is when we go to the new forum. Stage 2 has not yet happened.

I saw the OP, but I was just confused with some of the comments, such as:

xterra -

Quote:

Looking around, I see that someone swept the floors here in the new home of the forum before we moved in.

Very nice, very efficient move.

Hearty congratulations to the team.

icerat -

Quote:

Credit goes to temporalillusion, darat, and Rick Adams@JREF, with some preparation assistance from Ben Burch.

Some minor glitches popping up, which was expected and being looked in to.

Donn -

Quote:

A few Gateway timeouts (nginx ) errors. Not too bad. Good ssh-fu chaps!

.....These seemed to indicate at least a 'visitable' site, if not one yet ready to 'move in'.

I shall await the official opening with excited interest

Jim

marplots · 7th September 2014, 05:14 PM

Posting this here because I can't bring up the forum to find the thread for glitches. Here's what I get when I click on the "new posts" link:

Fatal error: Memcache is not installed in [path]/includes/class_datastore.php on line 186

I have no idea if that's important.

icerat · 7th September 2014, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by marplots

Posting this here because I can't bring up the forum to find the thread for glitches. Here's what I get when I click on the "new posts" link:

Fatal error: Memcache is not installed in [path]/includes/class_datastore.php on line 186

I have no idea if that's important.

Yeah, temporalillusion has decided things are working too well so has decided to break stuff.

temporalillusion · 7th September 2014, 05:25 PM

Gotta break a few eggs if you want to ~~egg a car~~ make stuff faster.

Slowvehicle · 7th September 2014, 07:18 PM

Lookin' goooood...

4th September 2014, 03:32 PM	#41
jsfisher ETcorngods survivor Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 23,097	Originally Posted by bookitty Will the new terms and conditions be the same as the current ones? arhwollipot had provided this post in one of the original forum transition threads. Originally Posted by arthwollipot Public Notice: Changes are a-coming! The Forum's Future Input Requested: Terms and conditions for the International Skeptics Forum Just for those folks who might not have seen them.
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4th September 2014, 05:56 PM	#42
CelticRose Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,603	Thanks for the information. Will a mass email go out at the time of the Big Move to let both active and inactive members know that there's a new forum?
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4th September 2014, 07:49 PM	#43
BazBear Possible Suspect Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stowe VT USA Posts: 2,865	Great news! My thanks go out to all involved in saving our fair ~~city~~ forum from oblivion.
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4th September 2014, 08:34 PM	#45
This is The End Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,920	Originally Posted by Darat <snip>and will be given the option to transfer their existing email address, name <snip> This might be a silly question but I can't for the life of me seem to find in the control panel anywhere what all personal information I gave. Am I not finding a page or something?
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4th September 2014, 10:18 PM	#47
This is The End Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,920	Originally Posted by Michel H On the top of this page, click "Use CP", "Edit Your Details", "Edit Email ...", you should see your e-mail address (you may, however, need to answer the "verification question" before clicking on "Edit Email ...") I saw that. And I now see that the DOB is part of the border/heading, I kept skimming past that and not registering it. And I'm assuming name must not be visible to the end user?
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4th September 2014, 08:04 PM	#44
AdMan Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 10,293	Originally Posted by BazBear Great news! My thanks go out to all involved in saving our fair ~~city~~ forum from oblivion. Given the recent developments in the mess that the JREF appears to be (and though I'm still rooting for them), I'm now kind of glad we're sailing off on our own.

4th September 2014, 09:19 PM	#46
Michel H Master Poster Join Date: May 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,052	Originally Posted by OnlyTellsTruths This might be a silly question but I can't for the life of me seem to find in the control panel anywhere what all personal information I gave. Am I not finding a page or something? On the top of this page, click "Use CP", "Edit Your Details", "Edit Email ...", you should see your e-mail address (you may, however, need to answer the "verification question" before clicking on "Edit Email ...")

4th September 2014, 11:29 PM	#48
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Flying around in the sky Posts: 26,627	Originally Posted by OnlyTellsTruths This might be a silly question but I can't for the life of me seem to find in the control panel anywhere what all personal information I gave. Am I not finding a page or something? I think you are searching for a non-existent page.
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5th September 2014, 02:07 AM	#49
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,797	Originally Posted by CelticRose Thanks for the information. Will a mass email go out at the time of the Big Move to let both active and inactive members know that there's a new forum? Yes. Although I don't think it will be needed as I expect the changes will make the leading story on all reputable news media.
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5th September 2014, 02:10 AM	#50
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,797	Originally Posted by OnlyTellsTruths I saw that. And I now see that the DOB is part of the border/heading, I kept skimming past that and not registering it. And I'm assuming name must not be visible to the end user? Look under usercp>your profile and the second tab?
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5th September 2014, 02:44 AM	#51
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 48,833	Originally Posted by Darat Look under usercp>your profile and the second tab? I think she's asking for the personal information supplied as part of membership approval. It's not visible to users, only to Admins. (I don't even know where it is held.)
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5th September 2014, 04:23 AM	#52
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,797	I thought it was as read only? Try going to your profile and looking... Mind you I do wonder how someone may have forgotten their own name.....
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5th September 2014, 04:32 AM	#53
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,797	Just tried with Testbot and you can't see even your own required info. Sorry for the confusion.
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6th September 2014, 11:30 AM	#54
JihadJane not a camel Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 77,549	Thanks to everybody who's worked on this.
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6th September 2014, 11:38 AM	#55
Gawdzilla Sama 121.92-meter mutant fire-breathing lizard-thingy Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Northern St. Louis County, Missouri. Posts: 42,180	Originally Posted by bookitty Will the new terms and conditions be the same as the current ones? Scroll down. Click "I agree". Move on.
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6th September 2014, 12:31 PM	#56
Donn Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In my head. Posts: 7,758	The future is nigh!
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7th September 2014, 11:32 AM	#57
temporalillusion Technical Admin Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada's Texas Posts: 1,495	Test post after move to new server.
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7th September 2014, 12:04 PM	#58
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,797	Stage 1 The (current) JREF Forum will be transferred to new hardware. This will require downtime expected to be 3 to 6 hours but may be longer. It’s hoped that this stage will occur before Sept 9, 2014. The site will remain under the ownership of the JREF and day to day control will remain with the current moderation team. There are likely to be a couple of additional "technical admins" created to help ensure everything goes as planned. Any new technical admins will be announced as per usual and their roles will be limited to technical matters rather than moderation. One down....
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7th September 2014, 12:06 PM	#59
AdMan Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 10,293	Woohoo!

7th September 2014, 12:12 PM	#60
calebprime Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 13,001	Damn.

7th September 2014, 12:16 PM	#61
dasmiller Just the right amount of cowbell Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Well past Hither, looking for Yon Posts: 6,379	Hmm . . . still has that 'new server smell' . . .
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7th September 2014, 12:50 PM	#62
rdaneel Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I'M IN THE PHONEBOOK! I'M SOMEBODY!!! Posts: 4,310	Originally Posted by dasmiller Hmm . . . still has that 'new server smell' . . . I love the smell of new servers in the morning, smells like... Victory!
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7th September 2014, 12:54 PM	#63
icerat Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: sweden Posts: 5,547	Originally Posted by rdaneel I love the smell of new servers in the morning, smells like... Victory! Hmmm .. it all went suspiciously too smoothly for my liking, entirely un-IT like ....
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7th September 2014, 12:55 PM	#64
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7th September 2014, 01:44 PM	#65
xterra So far, so good... Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: On the outskirts of Nowhere; the middle was too crowded Posts: 3,730	Looking around, I see that someone swept the floors here in the new home of the forum before we moved in. Very nice, very efficient move. Hearty congratulations to the team. (This post duplicates a post in the thread "Future of the Forum," now that the future has arrived.)
	__________________ Over we go....

7th September 2014, 02:01 PM	#66
icerat Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: sweden Posts: 5,547	Originally Posted by xterra Looking around, I see that someone swept the floors here in the new home of the forum before we moved in. Very nice, very efficient move. Hearty congratulations to the team. Credit goes to temporalillusion, darat, and Rick Adams@JREF, with some preparation assistance from Ben Burch. Some minor glitches popping up, which was expected and being looked in to.
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7th September 2014, 02:13 PM	#67
Donn Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In my head. Posts: 7,758	A few Gateway timeouts (nginx ) errors. Not too bad. Good ssh-fu chaps!
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7th September 2014, 02:44 PM	#68
icerat Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: sweden Posts: 5,547	Originally Posted by Donn A few Gateway timeouts (nginx ) errors. Not too bad. Good ssh-fu chaps! Are they still occurring since the two earlier reports?
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7th September 2014, 02:48 PM	#69
Donn Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In my head. Posts: 7,758	Nope - and I'll use the problems thread in future.
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7th September 2014, 02:50 PM	#70
ctamblyn Data Ghost Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Library Posts: 2,898	I haven't seen any more either.
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7th September 2014, 03:58 PM	#71
beelzebub Scholar Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 115	Hi Guys, sorry if this has been said elsewhere, but do we know when the new forum will be up and running? From several comments above, it sounds like it should be up now (in some form or other), but I just get a "Web site is under construction" message (At 'http://www.internationalskeptics.com/') Jim
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7th September 2014, 04:03 PM	#72
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Flying around in the sky Posts: 26,627	Originally Posted by beelzebub Hi Guys, sorry if this has been said elsewhere, but do we know when the new forum will be up and running? From several comments above, it sounds like it should be up now (in some form or other), but I just get a "Web site is under construction" message (At 'http://www.internationalskeptics.com/') Jim Read the OP. Looks like stage 1 has been completed. Stage 2 is when we go to the new forum. Stage 2 has not yet happened.
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7th September 2014, 04:05 PM	#73
icerat Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: sweden Posts: 5,547	Originally Posted by beelzebub Hi Guys, sorry if this has been said elsewhere, but do we know when the new forum will be up and running? From several comments above, it sounds like it should be up now (in some form or other), but I just get a "Web site is under construction" message (At 'http://www.internationalskeptics.com/') Jim Originally Posted by rjh01 Read the OP. Looks like stage 1 has been completed. Stage 2 is when we go to the new forum. Stage 2 has not yet happened. Correct. A few things need to be done before we become ISF. One of which is decide on a logo and colour scheme etc.
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7th September 2014, 04:25 PM	#74
Christian Klippel Master Poster Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ruhr Area in Germany Posts: 2,431	Yeah, that looked like it went really smooth. And it's pretty fast now, too. Well, it already was quite a bit faster after you folks finally looked into it, but now... Great work! Greetings, Chris
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7th September 2014, 04:33 PM	#75
bpesta22 Cereal Killer Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,942	Good news. Be sure to tip your server.
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