White House Survivor - Page 2

Oystein · 31st July 2017, 01:41 PM

If Kelly has any self-respect, he made a demotion of the Mooch (demoochen) a condition of taking the Chief of Staff helm.

Kelly also ought to have other conditions. One being: Mr. President, stop shooting off your brainfarts unchecked! A WP comment suggested the following: Make it clear to the President that Kelly will step down immediately the moment Trump twitters the first demonstrable lie.

And because Trump cannot be counted on to keep promises and show some of the discipline a general would expect, I say Kelly is next.

a_unique_person · 31st July 2017, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I think none of us were expecting Mooch to last long,but out after ten freaking days?????

It almost looks like Trump appointing him was a mistake.

Belz... · 31st July 2017, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

The White House is getting more like Game of Thrones everyday....

Nonsense. Game of Thrones characters are cool.

Mikemcc · 31st July 2017, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

It almost looks like Trump appointing him was a mistake.

Which makes Trumps suitability for office look like...?

fuelair · 31st July 2017, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

Mooch

You called it!!!!!

Trebuchet · 31st July 2017, 05:05 PM

Scaramouche's departure must just about be setting a record for being mentioned in the most ISF threads, including at least two new ones. Only the best for Trump!

d4m10n · 1st August 2017, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Oystein

Kelly also ought to have other conditions. One being: Mr. President, stop shooting off your brainfarts unchecked!

Hypothesis disconfirmed.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...83242535481344

Oystein · 1st August 2017, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Hypothesis disconfirmed.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...83242535481344

Why would Trump tweet this the day Kelly took office? Perhaps because it IS a topic of contention?

I didn't say Kelly ought to demand that Trump stops using Twitter. I said he ought to demand that Trump does not shoot off on Twitter unchecked. This tweet then would toe that line if Trump ran it past Kelly

CORed · 3rd August 2017, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Please explain how such a law would be constitutionally dubious. I also don't see how he could take him off the case or fire him. Also Constitutionally speaking enforcement power is entrusted to Congress. Congress has empowered the President to nominate an Attorney General with consent of the Congress. This is NOT in the Constitution. If Congress wanted it could remove the President entirely from the process. It would just have to pass legislation.

It's constitutionally dubious because the Justice Department (and any special prosecutors appointed under its authority) is part of the Executive branch, for which the President has constitutional authority to fire appointees. And your misunderstanding notwithstanding, the appointment of the Attorney General, and the requirement that the appointment be approved by the Senate (not the full Congress) is covered by Article II of the Constitution.

dudalb · 3rd August 2017, 02:00 PM

As one wag said,who will be the next to be evacuated from Donkirk?

Craig4 · 3rd August 2017, 05:45 PM

I'm betting Kushner will go back to run the family business. He won't adjust well to Kelly and more will come out about his talks with the Russians. Between Kelly running the show and a soon to come series of revelations about Jared and Russia he'll leave or get forced out.

Stacko · 3rd August 2017, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

I'm betting Kushner will go back to run the family business. He won't adjust well to Kelly and more will come out about his talks with the Russians. Between Kelly running the show and a soon to come series of revelations about Jared and Russia he'll leave or get forced out.

Who will do all the work if he leaves? The Orange Menace put him in charge of almost everything.

d4m10n · 3rd August 2017, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

I'm betting Kushner will go back to run the family business. He won't adjust well to Kelly and more will come out about his talks with the Russians. Between Kelly running the show and a soon to come series of revelations about Jared and Russia he'll leave or get forced out.

Interesting choice, given the broad scope of Jared's portfolio.

quadraginta · 4th August 2017, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

I think Tillerson. I think there are enough people to talk trump out of firing Sessions for ~~having~~ pretending to have some ethics. So unless maybe his kids get indicted I don't see Sessions going anywhere

FTFY.

Sessions was dragged kicking and screaming into his (sort of) recusal. I don't think he deserves a lot of credit for the ethical virtue of the decision.

Craig4 · 4th August 2017, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Interesting choice, given the broad scope of Jared's portfolio.

But the Hair doesn't think about the consequences of his actions. If he did, he wouldn't have colluded with the Russians.

d4m10n · 4th August 2017, 04:44 AM

Never forget all those who have already fallen from grace...

https://twitter.com/BlueBallSkeptic/...08922152247296

Oystein · 4th August 2017, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

But the Hair doesn't think about the consequences of his actions. If he did, he wouldn't have colluded with the Russians.

What consequences? Jared spent his time so far learning about the Middle East, and recently reported that he has by now figured out that it is a very complex situation.

The replacement might conceivably know this already, and thus pick up where Kuchner leaves.

Giordano · 4th August 2017, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Never forget all those who have already fallen from grace...

https://twitter.com/BlueBallSkeptic/...08922152247296

Let us all observe a moment of silence in respect of these great souls who have fallen while serving our country... oh hell, I just couldn't stop laughing!

d4m10n · 4th August 2017, 07:26 AM

I'm actually a bit sad about Yates and Comey.

ddt · 4th August 2017, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by CORed

It's constitutionally dubious because the Justice Department (and any special prosecutors appointed under its authority) is part of the Executive branch, for which the President has constitutional authority to fire appointees. And your misunderstanding notwithstanding, the appointment of the Attorney General, and the requirement that the appointment be approved by the Senate (not the full Congress) is covered by Article II of the Constitution.

History begs to differ here. In the wake of Watergate and the Saturday Night Massacre, Congress instituted the Office of Independent Counsel, which existed until 1999:

Quote:

The prosecutor, who was appointed by a special panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, could investigate allegations of any misconduct, with an unlimited budget and no deadline, and could be dismissed only by the Attorney General for "good cause" or by the special panel of the court when the independent counsel's task was completed. As the president could not dismiss those investigating the executive branch it was felt that the independence of the office would ensure impartiality of any reports presented to Congress. However, there have been many critics of this law including Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.[1] Many argued the new Independent Counsel's office was a sort of "fourth branch" of government that had virtually unlimited powers and was answerable to no one. However, the constitutionality of the new office was ultimately upheld in the 1988 Supreme Court case Morrison v. Olson.

All Congress has to do is to re-instate the provisions from the Ethics in Government Act which instituted it.

dudalb · 4th August 2017, 02:19 PM

And Bannon seems to have fallen into disfavor with Stephan Miller now probably the most powerful member of the Nationalist wing of the White House.
Looks like Bannon;s declaration that he was another Thomas Cromwell might come true considering what happened to Cromwell when Henry the Eight got tired of him and felt he was too powerful....

zorro99 · 7th August 2017, 06:49 AM

Evidently Trump's base as exemplified by Breitbart are mad at General McMaster.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2...-nuclear-deal/

Civet · 7th August 2017, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by zorro99

Evidently Trump's base as exemplified by Breitbart are mad at General McMaster.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2...-nuclear-deal/

Alt-right's been sharpening their knives for McMaster for a while. I consider it a good sign that my early enthusiasm for his hiring was not misplaced. Media Matters has a story defending him and claiming, among other things, that Russian bots are pushing a #FireMcMaster hashtag. No idea if that's true. Interesting claim, though.

d4m10n · 7th August 2017, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by zorro99

Evidently Trump's base as exemplified by Breitbart are mad at General McMaster.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2...-nuclear-deal/

Sort of last week's news now.

Anti-McMaster narrative was heavily pushed by bots:
https://twitter.com/HenHokie/status/893582911949213698

Then they let it go, after POTUS reaffirmed his support for the NSA:
https://twitter.com/qjurecic/status/894303712121892865

Not sure why Russia wanted to test this line out. Do they hold a grudge against Susan Rice?

p.s. I'm changing my bet to Tillerson.

Arcade22 · 9th August 2017, 07:17 AM

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d4m10n · 9th August 2017, 12:31 PM

Changing my vote (again) to Kelly.

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/stat...71457986621440

dudalb · 9th August 2017, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Changing my vote (again) to Kelly.

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/stat...71457986621440

First crack in Kelly's wall.....

The Great Zaganza · 9th August 2017, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Changing my vote (again) to Kelly.

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/stat...71457986621440

Sorry, but Kelly is not in the Chain of Command for the Nuclear Twitter Codes.

Craig4 · 10th August 2017, 05:20 AM

I'm still going with Kushner. The FBI seized documents in the raid on Manafort's home related to the meeting with the representatives of the Russian government. That means there's something there. Getting him out of the White House will become crucial soon. He's the only person in the administration (that we know of now) who was at that meeting and that's where the collusion began.

quadraginta · 10th August 2017, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

I'm still going with Kushner. The FBI seized documents in the raid on Manafort's home related to the meeting with the representatives of the Russian government. That means there's something there. Getting him out of the White House will become crucial soon. He's the only person in the administration (that we know of now) who was at that meeting and that's where ~~the~~ that collusion began.

FTFY.

Darat · 10th August 2017, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by Stacko

Who will do all the work if he leaves? The Orange Menace put him in charge of almost everything.

The evidence is that like many top executives of his type he doesn't actually do anything. Probably better replacing him with a magic-8-ball, at least that has a chance of being right about something.

Hellbound · 10th August 2017, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

The evidence is that like many top executives of his type he doesn't actually do anything. Probably better replacing him with a magic-8-ball, at least that has a chance of being right about something.

Oh man, I want the executives you've had. I'd love it if our top execs didn't do anything.

Instead, they do things that make no sense because they confuse position with expertise.

ponderingturtle · 10th August 2017, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

I'm still going with Kushner. The FBI seized documents in the raid on Manafort's home related to the meeting with the representatives of the Russian government. That means there's something there. Getting him out of the White House will become crucial soon. He's the only person in the administration (that we know of now) who was at that meeting and that's where the collusion began.

That seems unlikely, we are going to have more turn over before any indictment against him could play out and family or at least his kids seems to be the one thing trump might be loyal to.

The Great Zaganza · 10th August 2017, 08:56 AM

Mattis and/or McMasters.

It looks like some leakers are pushing the North Korea situation (RE: miniaturized nuclear warhead) to help Trump by distracting form the Russia investigation.
If it looks like this could work, Trump might as well look to bomb North Korea, which (hopefully) the Generals won't support.

If Mattis and/or McMasters are forced out you better sell all your shares in Korean companies.

Beelzebuddy · 10th August 2017, 10:42 AM

I'm leaving my chip on Sessions. He's already crossed Trump, his firing would be slightly less contentious than firing Mueller directly, Trump's already tried bullying him out, so IMO it's just a matter of time and sufficient distraction until Trump feels safe firing him.

d4m10n · 10th August 2017, 11:20 AM

Sessions is getting cover from his brethren in the Senate, who would have to confirm his replacement.

Beelzebuddy · 10th August 2017, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Sessions is getting cover from his brethren in the Senate, who would have to confirm his replacement.

Trump is currently feuding with McConnell. It would be entirely characteristic of him, and would give him a fig leaf of plausible deniability, to fire Sessions in retaliation.

Stacko · 10th August 2017, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy

Trump is currently feuding with McConnell. It would be entirely characteristic of him, and would give him a fig leaf of plausible deniability, to fire Sessions in retaliation.

Is he aware of who his Secretary of Transportation is?

Trebuchet · 10th August 2017, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy

Trump is currently feuding with McConnell. It would be entirely characteristic of him, and would give him a fig leaf of plausible deniability, to fire Sessions in retaliation.

I'm waiting for him to try to fire McConnell. Who's going to tell him he can't?

Originally Posted by Stacko

Is he aware of who his Secretary of Transportation is?

Elaine Chao, but somehow your point has gone whooshing over my head. Is he going to have someone transported to Australia?

Stacko · 10th August 2017, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Elaine Chao, but somehow your point has gone whooshing over my head. Is he going to have someone transported to Australia?

Look up her spouse.

31st July 2017, 01:41 PM	#41
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 17,036	If Kelly has any self-respect, he made a demotion of the Mooch (demoochen) a condition of taking the Chief of Staff helm. Kelly also ought to have other conditions. One being: Mr. President, stop shooting off your brainfarts unchecked! A WP comment suggested the following: Make it clear to the President that Kelly will step down immediately the moment Trump twitters the first demonstrable lie. And because Trump cannot be counted on to keep promises and show some of the discipline a general would expect, I say Kelly is next.
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31st July 2017, 03:25 PM	#42
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 43,089	Originally Posted by dudalb I think none of us were expecting Mooch to last long,but out after ten freaking days????? It almost looks like Trump appointing him was a mistake.
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31st July 2017, 03:28 PM	#43
Belz... Fiend God Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a post-fact world Posts: 92,246	Originally Posted by dudalb The White House is getting more like Game of Thrones everyday.... Nonsense. Game of Thrones characters are cool.
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31st July 2017, 04:37 PM	#45
fuelair Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 58,581	Originally Posted by NoahFence Mooch You called it!!!!!
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31st July 2017, 05:05 PM	#46
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31st July 2017, 03:36 PM	#44
Mikemcc Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,880	Originally Posted by a_unique_person It almost looks like Trump appointing him was a mistake. Which makes Trumps suitability for office look like...?

1st August 2017, 09:28 AM	#47
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,707	Originally Posted by Oystein Kelly also ought to have other conditions. One being: Mr. President, stop shooting off your brainfarts unchecked! Hypothesis disconfirmed. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...83242535481344
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1st August 2017, 10:34 AM	#48
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 17,036	Originally Posted by d4m10n Hypothesis disconfirmed. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...83242535481344 Why would Trump tweet this the day Kelly took office? Perhaps because it IS a topic of contention? I didn't say Kelly ought to demand that Trump stops using Twitter. I said he ought to demand that Trump does not shoot off on Twitter unchecked. This tweet then would toe that line if Trump ran it past Kelly
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3rd August 2017, 01:56 PM	#49
CORed Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central City, Colorado, USA Posts: 10,146	Originally Posted by acbytesla Please explain how such a law would be constitutionally dubious. I also don't see how he could take him off the case or fire him. Also Constitutionally speaking enforcement power is entrusted to Congress. Congress has empowered the President to nominate an Attorney General with consent of the Congress. This is NOT in the Constitution. If Congress wanted it could remove the President entirely from the process. It would just have to pass legislation. It's constitutionally dubious because the Justice Department (and any special prosecutors appointed under its authority) is part of the Executive branch, for which the President has constitutional authority to fire appointees. And your misunderstanding notwithstanding, the appointment of the Attorney General, and the requirement that the appointment be approved by the Senate (not the full Congress) is covered by Article II of the Constitution.

3rd August 2017, 02:00 PM	#50
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,618	As one wag said,who will be the next to be evacuated from Donkirk?
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3rd August 2017, 05:45 PM	#51
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,892	I'm betting Kushner will go back to run the family business. He won't adjust well to Kelly and more will come out about his talks with the Russians. Between Kelly running the show and a soon to come series of revelations about Jared and Russia he'll leave or get forced out.

3rd August 2017, 05:48 PM	#52
Stacko Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 10,837	Originally Posted by Craig4 I'm betting Kushner will go back to run the family business. He won't adjust well to Kelly and more will come out about his talks with the Russians. Between Kelly running the show and a soon to come series of revelations about Jared and Russia he'll leave or get forced out. Who will do all the work if he leaves? The Orange Menace put him in charge of almost everything.

3rd August 2017, 05:49 PM	#53
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,707	Originally Posted by Craig4 I'm betting Kushner will go back to run the family business. He won't adjust well to Kelly and more will come out about his talks with the Russians. Between Kelly running the show and a soon to come series of revelations about Jared and Russia he'll leave or get forced out. Interesting choice, given the broad scope of Jared's portfolio.
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4th August 2017, 03:13 AM	#54
quadraginta Becoming Beth Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Vale of Humility (USA, sort of) Posts: 26,296	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle I think Tillerson. I think there are enough people to talk trump out of firing Sessions for ~~having~~ pretending to have some ethics. So unless maybe his kids get indicted I don't see Sessions going anywhere FTFY. Sessions was dragged kicking and screaming into his (sort of) recusal. I don't think he deserves a lot of credit for the ethical virtue of the decision.
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4th August 2017, 03:24 AM	#55
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,892	Originally Posted by d4m10n Interesting choice, given the broad scope of Jared's portfolio. But the Hair doesn't think about the consequences of his actions. If he did, he wouldn't have colluded with the Russians.

4th August 2017, 04:44 AM	#56
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,707	Never forget all those who have already fallen from grace... https://twitter.com/BlueBallSkeptic/...08922152247296
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4th August 2017, 07:20 AM	#57
Oystein Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 17,036	Originally Posted by Craig4 But the Hair doesn't think about the consequences of his actions. If he did, he wouldn't have colluded with the Russians. What consequences? Jared spent his time so far learning about the Middle East, and recently reported that he has by now figured out that it is a very complex situation. The replacement might conceivably know this already, and thus pick up where Kuchner leaves.
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4th August 2017, 07:24 AM	#58
Giordano Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 17,646	Originally Posted by d4m10n Never forget all those who have already fallen from grace... https://twitter.com/BlueBallSkeptic/...08922152247296 Let us all observe a moment of silence in respect of these great souls who have fallen while serving our country... oh hell, I just couldn't stop laughing!

4th August 2017, 07:26 AM	#59
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,707	I'm actually a bit sad about Yates and Comey.
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4th August 2017, 02:02 PM	#60
ddt Mafia Penguin Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 19,576	Originally Posted by CORed It's constitutionally dubious because the Justice Department (and any special prosecutors appointed under its authority) is part of the Executive branch, for which the President has constitutional authority to fire appointees. And your misunderstanding notwithstanding, the appointment of the Attorney General, and the requirement that the appointment be approved by the Senate (not the full Congress) is covered by Article II of the Constitution. History begs to differ here. In the wake of Watergate and the Saturday Night Massacre, Congress instituted the Office of Independent Counsel, which existed until 1999: Quote: The prosecutor, who was appointed by a special panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, could investigate allegations of any misconduct, with an unlimited budget and no deadline, and could be dismissed only by the Attorney General for "good cause" or by the special panel of the court when the independent counsel's task was completed. As the president could not dismiss those investigating the executive branch it was felt that the independence of the office would ensure impartiality of any reports presented to Congress. However, there have been many critics of this law including Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.[1] Many argued the new Independent Counsel's office was a sort of "fourth branch" of government that had virtually unlimited powers and was answerable to no one. However, the constitutionality of the new office was ultimately upheld in the 1988 Supreme Court case Morrison v. Olson. All Congress has to do is to re-instate the provisions from the Ethics in Government Act which instituted it.
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4th August 2017, 02:19 PM	#61
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,618	And Bannon seems to have fallen into disfavor with Stephan Miller now probably the most powerful member of the Nationalist wing of the White House. Looks like Bannon;s declaration that he was another Thomas Cromwell might come true considering what happened to Cromwell when Henry the Eight got tired of him and felt he was too powerful....
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7th August 2017, 06:49 AM	#62
zorro99 Muse Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 987	Evidently Trump's base as exemplified by Breitbart are mad at General McMaster. http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2...-nuclear-deal/
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7th August 2017, 07:14 AM	#63
Civet Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,657	Originally Posted by zorro99 Evidently Trump's base as exemplified by Breitbart are mad at General McMaster. http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2...-nuclear-deal/ Alt-right's been sharpening their knives for McMaster for a while. I consider it a good sign that my early enthusiasm for his hiring was not misplaced. Media Matters has a story defending him and claiming, among other things, that Russian bots are pushing a #FireMcMaster hashtag. No idea if that's true. Interesting claim, though.
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7th August 2017, 08:56 AM	#64
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,707	Originally Posted by zorro99 Evidently Trump's base as exemplified by Breitbart are mad at General McMaster. http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2...-nuclear-deal/ Sort of last week's news now. Anti-McMaster narrative was heavily pushed by bots: https://twitter.com/HenHokie/status/893582911949213698 Then they let it go, after POTUS reaffirmed his support for the NSA: https://twitter.com/qjurecic/status/894303712121892865 Not sure why Russia wanted to test this line out. Do they hold a grudge against Susan Rice? p.s. I'm changing my bet to Tillerson.
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9th August 2017, 07:17 AM	#65
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9th August 2017, 12:31 PM	#66
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,707	Changing my vote (again) to Kelly. https://twitter.com/allahpundit/stat...71457986621440
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9th August 2017, 12:40 PM	#67
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,618	Originally Posted by d4m10n Changing my vote (again) to Kelly. https://twitter.com/allahpundit/stat...71457986621440 First crack in Kelly's wall.....
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9th August 2017, 09:48 PM	#68
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,878	Originally Posted by d4m10n Changing my vote (again) to Kelly. https://twitter.com/allahpundit/stat...71457986621440 Sorry, but Kelly is not in the Chain of Command for the Nuclear Twitter Codes.
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10th August 2017, 05:20 AM	#69
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,892	I'm still going with Kushner. The FBI seized documents in the raid on Manafort's home related to the meeting with the representatives of the Russian government. That means there's something there. Getting him out of the White House will become crucial soon. He's the only person in the administration (that we know of now) who was at that meeting and that's where the collusion began.

10th August 2017, 05:33 AM	#70
quadraginta Becoming Beth Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Vale of Humility (USA, sort of) Posts: 26,296	Originally Posted by Craig4 I'm still going with Kushner. The FBI seized documents in the raid on Manafort's home related to the meeting with the representatives of the Russian government. That means there's something there. Getting him out of the White House will become crucial soon. He's the only person in the administration (that we know of now) who was at that meeting and that's where ~~the~~ that collusion began. FTFY.
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10th August 2017, 05:56 AM	#71
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,849	Originally Posted by Stacko Who will do all the work if he leaves? The Orange Menace put him in charge of almost everything. The evidence is that like many top executives of his type he doesn't actually do anything. Probably better replacing him with a magic-8-ball, at least that has a chance of being right about something.
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10th August 2017, 06:43 AM	#72
Hellbound Merchant of Doom Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not in Hell, but I can see it from here on a clear day... Posts: 14,458	Originally Posted by Darat The evidence is that like many top executives of his type he doesn't actually do anything. Probably better replacing him with a magic-8-ball, at least that has a chance of being right about something. Oh man, I want the executives you've had. I'd love it if our top execs didn't do anything. Instead, they do things that make no sense because they confuse position with expertise.

10th August 2017, 07:02 AM	#73
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,761	Originally Posted by Craig4 I'm still going with Kushner. The FBI seized documents in the raid on Manafort's home related to the meeting with the representatives of the Russian government. That means there's something there. Getting him out of the White House will become crucial soon. He's the only person in the administration (that we know of now) who was at that meeting and that's where the collusion began. That seems unlikely, we are going to have more turn over before any indictment against him could play out and family or at least his kids seems to be the one thing trump might be loyal to.
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10th August 2017, 08:56 AM	#74
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,878	Mattis and/or McMasters. It looks like some leakers are pushing the North Korea situation (RE: miniaturized nuclear warhead) to help Trump by distracting form the Russia investigation. If it looks like this could work, Trump might as well look to bomb North Korea, which (hopefully) the Generals won't support. If Mattis and/or McMasters are forced out you better sell all your shares in Korean companies.
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10th August 2017, 10:42 AM	#75
Beelzebuddy Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 8,100	I'm leaving my chip on Sessions. He's already crossed Trump, his firing would be slightly less contentious than firing Mueller directly, Trump's already tried bullying him out, so IMO it's just a matter of time and sufficient distraction until Trump feels safe firing him.
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