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Old 9th November 2020, 01:23 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by paloalto View Post
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It is now clear...
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What do you mean, "now"?
Are you saying that it wasn't clear when you wrote your walls of texts years ago?
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Old 9th November 2020, 02:09 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by paloalto View Post
You don't need money for a new investigation, all of the information to get justice for the murder of their son is now already available in publicly available information.

It is now clear, that Bush was fully aware of the 9/11 attacks, he had been warned many times, and that not only did he do nothing to prevent this 9/11 attacks from taking place, he was in charge of the CIA, and it is now clear he had ordered to CIA to criminally sabotage the FBI criminal investigations of al Qaeda terrorists found inside of the US, including Steve Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi, and Harry Samit's investigation of Moussaoui.

To sabotage the FBI investigations of Mihdhar and Hazmi, the CIA in July, 2001, had ordered their spy inside of the FBI ITOS unit, CIA Deputy Chief of the CIA bin Laden Station, Tom Wilshere, never to give or even allow the information at the CIA, that had come out of the Kuala Lumpur al Qaeda planning meeting in January 2000, that Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi had taken part in the planning of the Cole bombing at this meeting, to go to the FBI Cole bombing investigators.

Wishere was directing the actions of FBI HQ’s Agent and her boss SSA Rod Middleton, when they shut down FBI Agent Steve Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi on August 28, 29, 2001. Why the CIA criminally sabotaged these criminal investigations of al Qaeda terrorists who were inside of the when the CIA, FBI HQ;s, and the Bush administration all knew full well a huge al Qaeda terrorist attack was just about to take place inside of the US, and even knew by sabotaging these investigations of al Qaeda terrorists who were inside of the US, their actions would allow these terrorists to murder thousands of Americans, has never been explained by the CIA, by the Bush administration, by the FBI, or by the main stream media.

The information that proves that Bush administration, using the CIA, had allowed the al Qaeda terrorists to carry out the 9/11 attack, is now all in the public domain. When all of this information is in the public domain, the big question is why has main stream media never reported it yet.

Perhaps the absolute iron clad proof that the CIA, under the direction of the Bush administration, had deliberately allowed the al Qaeda terrorists to murder thousands of Americans, is one irrefutable fact. After the CIA knew a huge al Qaeda terrorist attack was just about to take place inside of the US, and even found out on August 22, 2001, three weeks prior to 9/11, that two al Qaeda terrorists , Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi were inside of the US, in order to take part in this attack, they never warned anyone or any agency that would or could stop this attack. The credit cards of Mihdhar and Hazmi were even used, in their own names, to buy 10 of the airline tickets used by the terrorists on 9/11. The CIA even had all of the information that would have allowed them to quickly get these credit card numbers.

It is also clear that the 9/11 Commission report was a complete and total fraud, and only put together to hide the reasons the CIA and FBI HQ’s had deliberately allowed these attacks to take place. The 9/11 Commission public hearings final report was so poorly put together, it is hard to believe anyone but a total and complete idiot would ever believe the “official story” which came out of this report. In fact it looks like the managers from the CIA who testified at the Joint Inquiry public hearings and the 9/11 Commission told so many completely obvious lies it is clear that they must have thought the American people were in fact such total idiots, that they would just believe the complete horse manure they told the American people, even when it made absolutely no sense.
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Old 9th November 2020, 03:02 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by paloalto View Post
... It is now clear, that Bush was fully aware of the 9/11 attacks,.
And I bet you can use the evidence, fantasy locked in your mind, for Bigfoot also.

Originally Posted by paloalto View Post
... he had been warned many times, and that not only did he do nothing to prevent this 9/11 attacks from taking place, he was in charge of the CIA, .
You mean UBL was going to kill Americans when and where he could? We knew that from interviews in the 90s I believe... Too bad you failed to write the first conspiracy theory book on this...

Originally Posted by paloalto View Post
...and it is now clear he had ordered to CIA to criminally sabotage the FBI criminal investigations of al Qaeda terrorists found inside of the US, including Steve Bongardt’s investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi, and Harry Samit's investigation of Moussaoui..
Is this new stuff, or the same old BS?
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Old 10th November 2020, 05:02 AM   #44
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Is it that time of year again? Gosh, it seems to come round sooner and sooner.
paloalto, did you find this long rant of repeatedly-debunked assertions when you were digging out your Christmas decorations? What persuaded you that it was worth trotting them out again? We've been over this so many times....
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Old 15th November 2020, 02:58 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
No.

Bush never directed the CIA to suppress the FBI investigation. His administration didn't terrorism seriously, just as the Clinton Administration had been half-assed on the subject.

It is quite possible that the CIA knew about the Kuala Lumpur because they thought their source could turn one of the two Al Qaeda hijackers into a CIA asset. Obviously Al Qaeda was playing the CIA on this one, but would have been an operation begun under the Clinton NSC and therefore the Bush NSC might not have been briefed on it. Richard Clark would have mentioned this by now.

If the CIA thought it was running one of the hijackers as an asset, or saw him as a potential asset then the cover-up is simple:

There's no way the CIA discusses assets with anyone outside of the team handling the asset, which is less than five people. This is doubly true if the asset/potential asset moved into the US, where the CIA is forbidden by law to conduct intelligence operations.

So if one of the AQ hijackers was an asset they would have handed the operation off to the FBI, but if he wasn't yet then technically there was nothing to tell the FBI since they assumed their unknown third party was keeping a close eye on the two men.

Either way, the villains of the story are Alec Station's were Michael Casey and Alfreda Bikowsky. Bikowsky was the one who told FBI Agent Michael Rossini he couldn't share Alec Station intelligence with the FBI under threat of prison. It was Bikowsky who claimed to have hand-delivered Mihdhar’s visa information to FBI HQ, yet the log shows she never visited the building on the day she claimed. She had been at Alec Station from day-one, and had become a zealot to the CIA cell.

And I'll say it one more time: the fact that bin Laden was planning to attack the US was no secret. The fact that an attack of some type was anticipated was not a secret. US military bases in CONUS and around the world cut off public access due to this threat, and those bases remain closed to the public today for the same reason.

Nobody knew it would come from the air.
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Old 15th November 2020, 03:00 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by paloalto View Post

he was in charge of the CIA
You're thinking of the elder George Bush, who did indeed serve as Director of the CIA from 1976 to 1977. George Tenet was the CIA Director in the relevant time period for this thread.
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