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Old Yesterday, 06:47 PM   #641
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Watched an episode of "Who do you think you are" on Matthew Pinsett (sp?) Ages ago.

His family tree was traced to William the conquerer and then another one old as to Adam and Eve and god.

It was kind of done in a humorous it's a bit bollocks way which was quite funny
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I read that "Sussex Royal" won't be allowed as a brand. The article didn't say whether the court ruling was specifically because they were stepping down as "senior royals", or some other reason.

That train of thought led me to a question I have for the Brits here, and it concerns "coats of arms". I hope that it isn't stretching the topic too far to ask about other medievalisms in modern Britain. I know that British nobility does have coats of arms, and uses them in places like those various churches that are home bases for the Garter or the Bath or what have you. (I don't know how many other orders there are, assuming there are any.)

Are there any rules/laws about displaying coats of arms by commoners? Over here in America we can make up anything we like and unless it's a trademark infringement, display it wherever we care to. I have been told that in Britain, that's not the case. Is that true? Are there still laws about who can display heraldry, or how? And if so, are they ever enforced?
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Originally Posted by Meadmaker View Post
I read that "Sussex Royal" won't be allowed as a brand. The article didn't say whether the court ruling was specifically because they were stepping down as "senior royals", or some other reason.

That train of thought led me to a question I have for the Brits here, and it concerns "coats of arms". I hope that it isn't stretching the topic too far to ask about other medievalisms in modern Britain. I know that British nobility does have coats of arms, and uses them in places like those various churches that are home bases for the Garter or the Bath or what have you. (I don't know how many other orders there are, assuming there are any.)

Are there any rules/laws about displaying coats of arms by commoners? Over here in America we can make up anything we like and unless it's a trademark infringement, display it wherever we care to. I have been told that in Britain, that's not the case. Is that true? Are there still laws about who can display heraldry, or how? And if so, are they ever enforced?
Your article was wrong. They had put in a trademark application, someone objected, which wouldn't have meant it wouldn't have been granted only that additional steps would come into play, the person who objected has subsequently withdrawn their objection. It is unlikely they will not be granted their requested trademark.
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Old Today, 12:56 AM   #644
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While no one said a word when Kate trademarked her new position.
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Originally Posted by Meadmaker View Post
I read that "Sussex Royal" won't be allowed as a brand. The article didn't say whether the court ruling was specifically because they were stepping down as "senior royals", or some other reason.

That train of thought led me to a question I have for the Brits here, and it concerns "coats of arms". I hope that it isn't stretching the topic too far to ask about other medievalisms in modern Britain. I know that British nobility does have coats of arms, and uses them in places like those various churches that are home bases for the Garter or the Bath or what have you. (I don't know how many other orders there are, assuming there are any.)

Are there any rules/laws about displaying coats of arms by commoners? Over here in America we can make up anything we like and unless it's a trademark infringement, display it wherever we care to. I have been told that in Britain, that's not the case. Is that true? Are there still laws about who can display heraldry, or how? And if so, are they ever enforced?
My late father-in-law was appointed High Sheriff (a ceremonial thing) of the county of Newport, S Wales, and needed a coat of arms. He consulted some heraldry dudes and they invented one. Unrelated to that, for fun, our son once investigated our family surname and paid some company or other on the internet to produce a presentation display. This included a proposed coat of arms and family motto. I can think of no legal reason why we shouldn't put that coat of arms on our headed notepaper

eta: The date on this thing suggests it as my Dad who had it done.
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There is an official body that can grant arms, in otherwords pay the government a few thousand and you can act all posh with an "official" crest, badge etc.

But there is nothing at all stopping anyone from creating any nonsense they like as a "court of arms" apart from the usual issues of using it to pass off, trademark and copyright infringements and so on.
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Originally Posted by Meadmaker View Post
I read that "Sussex Royal" won't be allowed as a brand. The article didn't say whether the court ruling was specifically because they were stepping down as "senior royals", or some other reason.

That train of thought led me to a question I have for the Brits here, and it concerns "coats of arms". I hope that it isn't stretching the topic too far to ask about other medievalisms in modern Britain. I know that British nobility does have coats of arms, and uses them in places like those various churches that are home bases for the Garter or the Bath or what have you. (I don't know how many other orders there are, assuming there are any.)

Are there any rules/laws about displaying coats of arms by commoners? Over here in America we can make up anything we like and unless it's a trademark infringement, display it wherever we care to. I have been told that in Britain, that's not the case. Is that true? Are there still laws about who can display heraldry, or how? And if so, are they ever enforced?
At the end of the day it is simply what we today would call a 'logo'.

My great-grandparents and everybody around here had their own 'woodmark' (rather like a rune) - ours looked like a fancy 'H' - which was used to mark property, such as furniture and farm utensils and even when signing land deeds. Some think this is the same as marking your signature with a 'X' but this is incorrect, as they were not at all illiterate and each had their own mark.

A coat of arms was merely the nobles copying the King as wars were usually fought going into battle bearing the 'standard' (a flag with the King's CoA). This then became a great art with rules about colours, shapes and symbols, as everybody scrabbled to get a CoA of their own.

Keeping up with the Joneses.
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Thanks to those who answered the heraldry question. I assumed that by now there was no real issue about displaying a coat of arms, even if it wasn't registered, but, one hears things, so I asked.
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