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Old 5th July 2020, 02:45 PM   #3641
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Exclamation A "plasma starts doing non linear stuff, like forming double layers" lie

A "plasma starts doing non linear stuff, like forming double layers" lie.

11 years of total ignorance and lies about physics says he has no idea what "non linear stuff" plasma does or anything about the the physics of double layers.
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Old 5th July 2020, 02:59 PM   #3642
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Exclamation Persists with "field aligned ambipolar electric field" fantasies

Persists with "field aligned ambipolar electric field" fantasies emphasizing his debunked and dead dogma.

The mainstream ice and dust comet field aligned ambipolar electric field at comets do not do whatever he imagines.
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Old 5th July 2020, 03:04 PM   #3643
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Years of lies about posts and posters ("I know you like to deny their existence...")

tusenfem does not deny the existence of double layers just because he likes to. tusenfem and all other astronomers know that double layers do not exist at comets because plasma physics, the turbulence of comet coma and not detecting them says they do not exist.
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Old 5th July 2020, 03:10 PM   #3644
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Exclamation Years of citing and lying about mainstream ice and dust cometary science

Years of citing and lying about mainstream ice and dust cometary science which does not have his lie of "discharges".

When the comet coma does not shield the solar wind, the solar wind charges dusts. That charged dust is electrostatically lofted to travel across the surface and some of it is ejected.
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Old 5th July 2020, 03:44 PM   #3645
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Exclamation Years of lying abut posts and posters ("...same page here")

Years of lying abut posts and posters ("I think we are starting to read from the same page here.")

He is the only poster in this thread who is a blind follower of a cult's debunked and dead dogma. Everyone else in the thread are on a different page where the real world says comets do not have that cult's electric discharges, are not that cult's rock blasted from rocky planets or the rest of that cult's ignorant fantasies and lies about comets and stars.

Specifically, tusenfem wrote about mainstream ice and dust comets - neutral gas sublimes from the nucleus. tusenfem wrote
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In the EC the discharge really must be "thunderbolts of the gods" in order to facilitate their EDM.
Sol88's cult has to have actual thunderbolts i.e. lightning. The scale has to be of the gods, i.e. enormous. His cult has an ignorant fantasy of electric discharges blasting many cubic kilometers of rock* from the surface of rocky planets such as the Earth . His cult has a delusion that the industrial EDM process (with its deionized water ) happens on comets and is so powerful that it erodes rock.

* Comet 67P alone has a volume of 18.7 cubic kilometers and mass of (9.982±0.003)×10^12 kg. The cult is idiotic enough to think that blasting enough rock from Earth to create comets would magically be invisible. 67P would be a magnitude or 3 less than the blast that killed the dinosaurs. Given the wastage of blasts, it is probably compatible to the dinosaur killer blast. These idiots have maybe thousands of mass extinctions events occurring on Earth (4000 cataloged comets) !

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Old 5th July 2020, 08:26 PM   #3646
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Again, thank you for your time to post the above tusenfem.

If now charged dust is escaping from the surface of the comet, it changes the overall charge of the comet, which then is again not in equilibrium with its surroundings, ....



And suppose that the comet is rarely in equilibrium but is consistently seekeking equilibrium, electrically speaking of course.

Things become complicated, mathamajikaly, when plasma starts doing non linear stuff, like forming double layers.

I know you like to deny their existence but seems the field aligned ambipolar electric field is doing just fine at seperating charged objects and different plasma densitys and temperatures.

What we really seems to be getting hung up on here is the power of these discharges that are Abe to remove the dust from the mostly rocky like consolidated meteoric matrix like ice and dust nucleus.

Other than that I think we are starting to read from the same page here.



The nucleus is for all intents and purposes discharging.

There is some non linear plasma physics involved but ....
Nope, there is no discharge woo. It would be seen. If it were scientifically possible. Which it isn't. You see, we had a little lander thingy, called Phil, or something similar. It sat on the comet for a few days, sending back data. Including the detection of water vapour. And was no doubt surrounded by dust. What did it measure, discharge woo wise? Zilch. Not a sausage. What did its magnetometer measure all the way down to the surface? Zero magnetic field, within the error bars. So, no electric woo. As we already knew from Giotto in '86.
So your impossible woo is not only impossible, but not seen. Unsurprisingly. Impossible things tend not to be seen. Unless one is on drugs. And I'm beginning to wonder..........
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Old 5th July 2020, 08:35 PM   #3647
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There is some non linear plasma physics involved but......
Haha! Yes! It must be non-linear! Why TF didn't I think of that! Doh!

Sol, you don't even know what linear means, let alone non-linear! It is something the idiot Thornhill says when stuff gets too complicated for him to understand.
Things like, what is 2 + 2/2?
'Man, that **** is non-linear! I'll get back to you when that **** gets less non-linear....ish.' Hahaha. Non-linear, my arse.
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Old 5th July 2020, 11:49 PM   #3648
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Originally Posted by jonesdave116 View Post
Haha! Yes! It must be non-linear! Why TF didn't I think of that! Doh!

Sol, you don't even know what linear means, let alone non-linear! It is something the idiot Thornhill says when stuff gets too complicated for him to understand.
Things like, what is 2 + 2/2?
'Man, that **** is non-linear! I'll get back to you when that **** gets less non-linear....ish.' Hahaha. Non-linear, my arse.

Still this low power comet is rocky like and losing charge and mass mostly via the dust, which is charged and responds to the various electric fields. Whether they are double layers or not.

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Note that this EDM can only work when the dielectric can break down, that is why de-ionized water is used. Now, in space (near a comet) there is a “vacuum” (much better than we can create on Earth, the solar wind near Earth has a density of a few particles per cubic centimetre, where, by the way, the ion and electron bulk velocity is the same). Nevertheless, this “vacuum” is filled with … plasma, a collection of freely moving charges.
Excess charges on objects in a plasma are in balance with the surrounding plasma, if they are not than there will be a net current balancing them again, as described in the first post, equilibrium exists when:
Would you go all in and say the Patched Charge Model can free both dust from rock and attach “left over” electrons?
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Your first scientifically correct post. Impressive.
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Old 6th July 2020, 03:22 AM   #3652
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Would you go all in and say the Patched Charge Model can free both dust from rock and attach “left over” electrons?
What the frak are "left over" electrons?

I knew this was useless. Of course it has to come again to the "difficult non-linear behaviour of plasmas", for which there are numerous text books, actually.
Your blatant disdain for mainstream science once again comes clearly to the surface.
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Still this low power comet is rocky like and losing charge and mass mostly via the dust, which is charged and responds to the various electric fields. Whether they are double layers or not.

It is losing mass due to ice sublimating. The ice disappears into space. Therefore mass is lost. It takes a bunch of dust with it. Therefore additional mass is lost. This is not rocket science, and is observed to happen. Otherwise, if all you want is electric woo to be responsible for mass loss, then we might as well junk this thread and open a new one on how asteroids lose mass. Because that is all you have left. Difference is, we can see the gas and dust leaving comets. We cannot (for the most part) see it happening at asteroids. So, what is the difference? Why do comets develop a coma of gas and dust, and the vast majority of asteroids don't? It is the same environment that they inhabit. It is the same star charging the sunlit surface positive. It is the same solar wind electrons charging the anti-sunward side negative.
So, you are back to trying to explain why this doesn't happen to EVERY SINGLE asteroid, eh? And we have determined that you cannot do that. We are back to an impossible radial field, that only affects comets but not asteroids. Even the asteroids on cometary orbits.
So, as usual with you, we are just going in circles, from one impossible mechanism to another, none of which you can explain. And all because you got conned by a couple of scientifically illiterate Velikovskians.
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Would you go all in and say the Patched Charge Model can free both dust from rock......
There is no rock.
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Exclamation "Still this low power comet ..." idiocy and lies about mainstream ice and dust comet

"Still this low power comet ..." idiocy and lies about mainstream ice and dust comets.

"low power " is idiotic when he dos not have any "power" for comets or anything real to compare to to get "low"! His cult's dead and debunked dogma has a delusion of "high power" electric discharges eroding comet surfaces using the ignorant fantasy of industrial EDM process that5 works with insulating liquids + the ignorant fantasy that comets are black from EDM soot + the delusion that comets nuclei look like microphotos of EDM surfaces.

A "losing charge and mass mostly via the dust" lie. Mainstream ice and dust comets only eject dust when the solar wind can reach the nucleus. hat stops when the coma forms. The coma and tails form when ice sublimates and drives gas dust off the nucleus. The coma and tails have most of the ejected dust mass.
A "various electric fields" lie. This is not his cult's dead and debunked dogma of a massive solar electric field. This is the mainstream ice and dust comets and textbook physics. The solar wind charges dust grains when it can reach the nucleus. Charges have electric fields - well duh! Like charges repel. Strong enough repulsion between the charged dust grains ejects them from the nucleus.

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Exclamation Years of his lie of double layers continues indirectly

Years of his lie of double layers continues indirectly with "Whether they are double layers or not"
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Exclamation Years of lying questions about mainstream ice and dust comets

Years of lying questions about mainstream ice and dust comets when still he does not believe they exist and ignores the answers.

A lie that a "Note that this EDM can only work when the dielectric can break down..." quote is about charged dust. This is tusenfem's post debunking the dogma of EDM at comets.
A lie that there is rock on comets.
A possible "Patched Charge Model" for comets lie when he gives no source.
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Exclamation The usual abysmal level of lies, delusions, insults, etc. addressed since 6 July 2009

The thousands of lies, delusions, insults, etc. since 6 July 2009 from Sol88 about his cult's electric comet and electric Sun dogma.
The abysmal insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn and all astronomers by Sol88 linking them with Sol88's dogma, etc. (no astronomer believes comets are actual rock)
312 items of lies, insults, etc. from Sol88 since ~10 March 2020
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The other very debunked cult dogma of an electric sun (SAFIRE) has not been mentioned in a while (CNO fusion neutrinos detected from the real Sun).
Sol88's cult ignores that their ignorant fantasies cause hundreds of mass extinction events on Earth !
  1. A "Your explanation on what a discharge is was perfect" lie when that explanation says his cult has a delusion of impossible electric discharges in the conducting medium of plasma (they need "a very bad conductor").
  2. A "You just explained what I've been trying to get thru to jd116!" lie when that explanation says his Thunderbolts cult has a delusion of impossible electric discharges in the conducting medium of plasma (they need "a very bad conductor").
  3. Persists in lying about his cult's debunked and dead dogma which does have "mega lightning bolts"
  4. A "throws a spanner in the works, ay" lie when mainstream ice and dust comets have positively and negatively charged dust and we have detected them
  5. Years of citing and lying about mainstream ice and dust comet papers.
  6. Years of citing and lying about mainstream ice and dust comet papers continues with "Only sublimation in the toolbox".
  7. Years of citing and lying about mainstream ice and dust comet papers continues with "processes that initially lift the dust are, at best, uncertain"
  8. Emphasizes his lying about his cult's debunked and dead dogma with "lightning bolts, or Thunderbolts". His cult is named Thunderbolts !
  9. Years of irrelevant questions emphasizing his cult's dogma is debunked and dead ("upper atmospheric lighting")
  10. Years of lying about posts and posts continues with "if you look very carefully atoind the corner, you’ll see dust"
  11. A "Removing mass from the nucleus via electric discharge" lie
  12. "As per observation. As per theory." idiocy when no electric discharges are observed and theory says they do not happen at comets.
  13. Years of citing and lying about mainstream ice and dust comet papers continues.
  14. A "This was once thought to be the dominate process" lie when Cometary Dust is a review of mainstream ice and dust cometary science where it is sublimating ice in active comets that ejects dust.
  15. Years of citing and lying about mainstream ice and dust comet papers continues.
  16. Years of lying about and insulting astronomers continues.
  17. A "sublimation releasing the dust" lie when the mainstream ice and dust paper he is currently lying about says the does not happen for larger dust particles.
  18. Persists with "less water (ice) than chondritic meteoric material" idiocy when that is support for mainstream ice and dust comets (that is what is predicted by mainstream ice and dust comet formation ).
  19. An ignorant "And suppose that the comet is rarely in equilibrium..." fantasy.
  20. A "plasma starts doing non linear stuff, like forming double layers" lie.
  21. Persists with "field aligned ambipolar electric field" fantasies emphasizing his debunked and dead dogma.
  22. Years of lies about posts and posters ("I know you like to deny their existence...")
  23. Years of citing and lying about mainstream ice and dust cometary science which does not have his lie of "discharges".
  24. Years of lying abut posts and posters ("I think we are starting to read from the same page here.")
  25. "Still this low power comet ..." idiocy and lies about mainstream ice and dust comets.
  26. Years of his lie of double layers continues indirectly with "Whether they are double layers or not"
  27. Years of lying questions about mainstream ice and dust comets when still he does not believe they exist and ignores the answers.

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Your first scientifically correct post. Impressive.
Not as impressive is that Sol88 removed that science from his post! No surprise given 11 or more years of denying science.

That was a figure from Experimental Methods of Dust Charging and Mobilization on Surfaces with Exposure to Ultraviolet Radiation or Plasmas. This the uncited paper he lies about with his "Patched Charge Model" question. The paper abstract has
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According to the recently developed "patched charge model", the emitted electrons can be re-absorbed inside microcavities between neighboring dust particles below the surface, causing the accumulation of enhanced negative charges on the surrounding dust particles. The repulsive forces between these negatively charged particles may be large enough to mobilize and lift them off the surface. These experiments present the advanced understanding of dust charging and transport on dusty surfaces, and laid a foundation for future investigations of its role in the surface evolution of airless planetary bodies.
It is not a paper about electrostatic ejection of dust from comets. Comets are mentioned in the context of electrostatic transport of dust across the surface of comets. They talk about dust pools on on 67P and cite Redistribution of particles across the nucleus of comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.

That recent in 2018 "patched charge model" if supported will become part of the mainstream ice and dust comet model. That is irrelevant to his cult's debunked and dead dogma which only has ignorant fantasies about imaginary enormous electric discharges blasting magically charged dust from the surface of comets impossibly made of actual rock.
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Originally Posted by Lukraak_Sisser View Post
Your first scientifically correct post. Impressive.
Little in the way of sublimation required and a rocky like substance can also be affected.
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What the frak are "left over" electrons?

I knew this was useless. Of course it has to come again to the "difficult non-linear behaviour of plasmas", for which there are numerous text books, actually.
Your blatant disdain for mainstream science once again comes clearly to the surface.


No, when pressed you retreat, pretty standard tactic of yours...

For instance, the nucleus is of a different potential than the surrounding plasma and is moving quite quick thru this medium.

What effects might we see on the plasma?

I would say a double layer at a minimum.
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Not as impressive is that Sol88 removed that science from his post! No surprise given 11 or more years of denying science.

That was a figure from Experimental Methods of Dust Charging and Mobilization on Surfaces with Exposure to Ultraviolet Radiation or Plasmas. This the uncited paper he lies about with his "Patched Charge Model" question. The paper abstract has

It is not a paper about electrostatic ejection of dust from comets. Comets are mentioned in the context of electrostatic transport of dust across the surface of comets. They talk about dust pools on on 67P and cite Redistribution of particles across the nucleus of comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko.

That recent in 2018 "patched charge model" if supported will become part of the mainstream ice and dust comet model. That is irrelevant to his cult's debunked and dead dogma which only has ignorant fantasies about imaginary enormous electric discharges blasting magically charged dust from the surface of comets impossibly made of actual rock.
Andddd to jonesdave116’s delight, no solar wind required to access the nucleus! Electric fields may play a role though.

They seem important.
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It is losing mass due to ice sublimating. The ice disappears into space. Therefore mass is lost. It takes a bunch of dust with it. Therefore additional mass is lost. This is not rocket science, and is observed to happen. Otherwise, if all you want is electric woo to be responsible for mass loss, then we might as well junk this thread and open a new one on how asteroids lose mass. Because that is all you have left. Difference is, we can see the gas and dust leaving comets. We cannot (for the most part) see it happening at asteroids. So, what is the difference? Why do comets develop a coma of gas and dust, and the vast majority of asteroids don't? It is the same environment that they inhabit. It is the same star charging the sunlit surface positive. It is the same solar wind electrons charging the anti-sunward side negative.
So, you are back to trying to explain why this doesn't happen to EVERY SINGLE asteroid, eh? And we have determined that you cannot do that. We are back to an impossible radial field, that only affects comets but not asteroids. Even the asteroids on cometary orbits.
So, as usual with you, we are just going in circles, from one impossible mechanism to another, none of which you can explain. And all because you got conned by a couple of scientifically illiterate Velikovskians.

Seems like it would be a good use of funds. Mission to asteroids to examine their electric fields and solar plasma phenomena.
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Years of lies about posts, posters and science ("Little in the way of sublimation required...")

The post he quoted and the paper he cited are not about sublimation at all and not about his cult's debunked and dead dogma of comets being rock. The paper is about the electrostatic transport of dust across surfaces by elections and UV - mainstream science unrelated to his fantasies. It is not directly related to the mainstream ice and dust cometary science of electrostatic ejection of dust by elections and UV when sublimation is not the dominant mechanism that he has been spamming the tread, obsessed with and lying about for years.

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Exclamation Years of lies about posts and posters continues

Years of lies about posts and posters continues ("when pressed you retreat").

11 years in this thread alone of Sol88 being abysmally ignorant about science, asking irrelevant questions about mainstream textbook physics and totally ignoring the answers (or lying abut them!) has resulted in posters only occasionally and futilely trying to educate Sol88. The fact that he has been a follower of an obvious cult with only blatantly ignorant fantasies and delusions for even longer shows that he has never was and is incapable of understanding the real world of astronomy, e.g. comets were measured to have densities that ruled them out from being rock in the 1950's!

tusenfem's What the frak are "left over" electrons? post is a refusal to answer yet more trolling with irrelevant questions about mainstream ice and dust comets when textbooks exist. tusenfem gives a link to textbooks where Sol88 can learn about plasma physics.
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Old Yesterday, 02:00 PM   #3666
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Exclamation Years of lying about double layers at comets continues

Years of lying about double layers at comets continues ("I would say a double layer at a minimum").

An ignorant fantasy from someone who is still abysmally ignorant of the subject as the 11 years in this thread alone of blind faith in an obvious cult with only blatantly ignorant fantasies and delusions shows.

There are no double layers at comets because the interaction of the solar wind and coma causes turbulence which makes them impossible. tusenfem is a plasma physicist researching comets and pointed this out a long time ago.
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Old Yesterday, 02:15 PM   #3667
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Exclamation Years of lying about posts, posters and science continues ("solar wind required")

Years of lying about posts, posters and science continues ("no solar wind required")

My post cites the paper he is trolling the thread with and that paper is about the electrons in plasma (solar wind) and UV (sunlight) charging dust particles. He even quoted that !
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Not as impressive is that Sol88 removed that science from his post! No surprise given 11 or more years of denying science.

That was a figure from Experimental Methods of Dust Charging and Mobilization on Surfaces with Exposure to Ultraviolet Radiation or Plasmas. This the uncited paper he lies about with his "Patched Charge Model" question. ....
The 3 experiments listed use
  • argon gas + an electron beam producing a thermal plasma.
  • an electron beam alone
  • UV only
on insulating dust particles of a few tens of microns in diameter. The introduction explicitly states airless bodies "directly exposed to solar wind plasma and solar ultraviolet (UV) radiation".
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Exclamation Years of lying about posts, posters and science continues (""good use of funds")

Years of lying about posts, posters and science continues (""good use of funds").

jonesdave116's It is losing mass due to ice sublimating. post stars with the physical fact that comets lose mass because the ice that is detected (and that Sol88 says they have by citing many mainstream ice and dust comet papers stating that ) will sublimate when heated by the Sun. There will be additional mass loss from dust being ejected from ice and dust nuclei.

Testing a crackpot cult's fantasies is never a good use of funds. We have visited asteroids with spacecraft capable of measuring electric fields and there was nothing out of the mainstream found. Those spacecraft include Rosetta ("asteroids 21 Lutetia and 2867 Šteins") !

His cult has a delusion that a massive solar electric field turns basically what are asteroids into comets. What makes that a delusion is that we have looked at and catalogued hundreds of thousands of asteroids and none of them are comets ! There are a few active asteroids that have visual characteristics similar to comets (comae, tails) due to various processes. But according to the cult dogma, all asteroids or at least hundreds of thousands of asteroids in similar orbits to active asteroids must be comets.
EC predicts that 605,650 asteroids should be comets (23 August 2013 - updated the numbers)!

Sol88 cannot explain this because "And all because you got conned by a couple of scientifically illiterate Velikovskians." These are the fantasist David Talbott spinning physically impossible fairy tales from his fantasies about myths and the documented liar and deluded Hollow Earth, gravity and nuclear forces are electromagnetic, textbook electromagnetism is wrong! ("orbits of sub-subatomic charges within the electrons and protons"*) believer Wal Thornhill (note his physics degree).
It is Wal Thornhill's recent The Electric Universe Heresy fantasies and lies that show that he has become deluded about physics and implies his cult's dogma deluded since he is their prophet denying the physics he has learned.
He is deluded about electromagnetism. It is well known physics that orbiting charges are accelerating, emit radiation and spiral into the central body (Larmor radiation). That is why atoms cannot be classical electrons physically orbiting a nucleus. Atoms would exist for a very short timescale. Applying this deluded physics to electrons is worse. Elections have never been seen to decay and are extremely small (may even be point particles).
He is deluded about gravity and nuclear forces being electromagnetism. Gravity does not depend on charge and is not shielded. Nuclear forces act between neutral neutrons and are attractive between positive protons. Nucleons contain 3 quarks as shown by physical evidence not whatever "sub-subatomic charges" he imagines.
There are blatant lies such as "we have no evidence that neutrons exist in the nucleus". deuterium is twice the mass of hydrogen with the a single proton in the nucleus. Radioactive elements emit neutrons from the nucleus.
A neutron are a "transient coupling of an electron and proton" delusion when the spins make this impossible. The proton and electron spins of 1/2 add up to 0 or 1. A neutron is spin 1/2.
etc. etc.

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No, when pressed you retreat, pretty standard tactic of yours...

For instance, the nucleus is of a different potential than the surrounding plasma and is moving quite quick thru this medium.

What effects might we see on the plasma?

I would say a double layer at a minimum.
And you wouldn't know what you are talking about. As usual. For the millionth time, why is this not happening to asteroids? And what is the potential of the quasi-neutral solar wind that asteroids and comets move through? How charged can they get before the plasma they are moving through reacts to nullify that charge? Et cetera. Stick to Velikovsky, eh?
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Andddd to jonesdave116’s delight, no solar wind required to access the nucleus! Electric fields may play a role though.

They seem important.
Nope. And nobody is making such a claim. Nobody who is sane and qualified, that is.
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Seems like it would be a good use of funds. Mission to asteroids to examine their electric fields and solar plasma phenomena.
Why? We can see from here that they are not turning into comets. WHY NOT?

1 million and one.
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So, just a recap of where we are up to;

No rock. No evidence presented of rock. No mechanism presented for why they would be rock.

No discharges or EDM (lol). No evidence presented of such. No mechanism presented for such.

No explanation of why asteroids on cometary orbits, or any other orbits, are not turning into comets. No mechanism presented for why they would.

No explanation for ice that shouldn't be there. No explanation for the various gases that shouldn't be there. No mechanisms presented for how they are getting there.

Sounds like a massive failure to me. No further on than when this woo first started being spammed around the internet a decade and a half ago. By which time it had already been debunked by missions that took place twenty years earlier! What a waste of fifteen years! One could obtain five Bachelors degrees in that time! A mere one would be sufficient to all but the dimmest to make them realise why this impossible woo is.........impossible!
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No, when pressed you retreat, pretty standard tactic of yours...

For instance, the nucleus is of a different potential than the surrounding plasma and is moving quite quick thru this medium.

What effects might we see on the plasma?

I would say a double layer at a minimum.
I see that you cannot tell us what "left over" electrons are.
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