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28th April 2016, 05:57 PM | #401 |
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Funny. You'd think that the Vast Conspiracy would be smart enough to use just plain thermite, which as Sunstealer notes, burns underwater. But apparently they devised a form that is deactivated by water! Shouldn't they have known that it would be used where automatic sprinklers would be activated?
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****Bump****
Just to keep it on the first page. |
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Apparently the latest update is that Richard Gage is aware that money has been raised and no independent study has taken place.
I wonder if the paid spokesperson will take charge and get the study carried out ? |
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Rumor has it that Ziggi is spokesman for Basile, Rick Shaddock/ANETA has done the fundraising, and Richard Gage/AE911Truth is somehow the umbrella to it all, but Gage has fired Shaddock from AE911T, and Shaddock has fired Ziggi from ANETA.
This leaves Basile motion-and speechless in his basement somewhere in New Hampshire, with phone and data lines mostly disconnected. |
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26th June 2016, 03:49 AM | #407 |
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Another month gone by with no sign of life, and the money kept away from both donors and independent labs.
The fraud lives. Basile I am not so sure. |
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Avery scamming money from truthers
Basile scamming money from truthers Gage scamming money from truthers Scumbags each and every one of them. |
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30th June 2016, 05:45 AM | #411 |
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Now now, every dime that they take from the truthers is one dime that could have went into
a truther, breeding and having more defendants, or a life. IF you think about it, they are doing a public service by suppressing the damage that inferior truther DNA would be causing to the Human Gene pool. |
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23rd July 2016, 01:46 PM | #416 |
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There's tons of evidence.
How about you stop being so lazy and use the search function provided by this forum? You might want to try that before embarrassing yourself any further. Oh wait, you're a twoofer that bridge was crossed long ago. How's that new investigation coming champ? 15 years of failure coming up!!! Now I notice you took the time to reply to my post, yet strangely missed this one:
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Was it Gage that slammed a cardboard box onto a longer cardboard box and claimed it represented something to do with the WTC collapses?
It might have been in a debate with Gravy. Anyway, if that's correct then, yes, right there there's evidence that Gage is a total con artist. Or incorrigibly ignorant. One or the other. |
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Originally Posted by GlennB
Yep, as seen here in the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFVi4qbN2jM
The full show in 2 parts (The Gage box stuff is at the end of part 2) Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlYVUUTeZp0 Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Imd5i7IGo ETA: And of course one of my favorite Dick Gage audio clips on threm*te and demo charges: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MusSulcJwSk
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The lies they spread are the evidence; the massive failure to prove CD, thermite and the inside job; that leaves 9/11 truth, and you as a follower, at a level of complete desperation and failure. The claims you support are evidence free fantasy.
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It is a well-known fact that Truthers have been taken for a ride to the cleaners by 9/11 conspiracy websites. Let's take AE911Truth as an example. The Shaky Moral Foundation that AE911Truth is Built Upon We reported about Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (ae911truth.org) in episode 16 of our audio reports. We worked for them as their systems administrators for almost two years. As a high-level administrator inside the organization, I witnessed a stunning degree of mismanagement and I was privy to everything. In a sense, this aspect of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth may be the most troubling one for some individuals, because a non-profit organization (501c3) is not supposed to have secret agendas or spend its money in a manner that is not disclosed to outsiders, including the very people who are donating to the "charity". * Richard Gage has an average $60,000 salary for his charity work at the supposed non-profit organization. http://healthwyze.org/tidbits/590-th...-is-built-upon |
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11th August 2016, 01:01 PM | #426 |
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In another thread:
It has been a full two (2) YEARS now since Mark Basile informed the public that he was in the process of finishing chip separation and would, within few months, select the most suitable chips and send them to independent labs. He promised to make all expenses public once money is being spent. So Criteria, what did you hear about this from at least one person recently? Has Basile found no suitable specimens? Or has he broken his promise to do an independent study by sending them to independent labs? Or has he broken his promise to do public accounting? Or did at least one person fail to remind Basile that he is more than 1.5 years behind, and appears to be defrauding his donors? Please give us an update! |
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Here's an even better idea.
How about taking those dust samples and separating out both red primer paint chips AND red thermitic chips. Anyone ever done that yet? Should be easy to do right? |
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My reading of Criteria's words is that he has talked to at least one person who claims to have been in direct contact with Mark Basile, and Criteria has believed that person. By my reading, that person might be Ziggi. A number of people in this forum have also talked to Ziggi so that's not really saying much, unless Criteria specifies what he means exactly.
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Yes indeed, it was easy and I might add that is not the way thermite is used. No Thermite Found The R.J. Lee Company did a 2003 study on the dust and didn't find thermitic material. Other sampling of the pulverized dust by United States Geological Survey and RJ Lee did not report any evidence of thermite or explosives. It has been theorized the "thermite material" found was primer paint. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-14665953 LaClede Standard Primer “Iron oxide” is hematite, chemical formula Fe2O3, a red pigment. Hematite pigments are bright red at particle sizes between 100 and 300 nanometers, and in that size it is universally used in all kinds of paints. “Aluminium Silicate” is kaolin, chemical formula Al2Si2O5(OH)4, a clay mineral very commonly used in paints to control gloss consistence. Kaolin appears naturally in platetelets some micrometers across and some tens of nanometers thick, which tend to stack. composition * Pigment: 28.5% by weight * Iron Oxide: 55% * Aluminium Silicate: 41% * Strontium Chromate: 4% * Vehicle: 71.5% * Epoxy Amine and other: 100% http://oystein-debate.blogspot.com/2...-standard.html Red-Gray Chips Tested and Determined Not to Be Thermite The red/gray chips found in the WTC dust at four sites in New York City are consistent with a carbon steel coated with an epoxy resin that contains primarily iron oxide and kaolin clay pigments. There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips, therefore the red layer of the red/gray chips is not thermite or nano-thermite. http://aneta.org/911experiments_com/...aper/index.htm |
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For the record, JM Talboo and I of "debunkingthedebunkers" have taken care of the fundraising for and promotion of Mark Basile´s independent study, and as such we have been the spokespersons for that effort. I presume that Mr. Basile will be his own spokesperson once the study is ready for the public. Mr. Basile received a new dust sample several months ago and his study of WTC dust and specific chips therein has been on-going in his spare time all this time - and some of this inquiry has included the use of new equipment. An independent lab will receive samples for independent testing at some point but the money will most likely not be accounted for until it has all been spent. Some of it may have been spent already. We do realize that this has taken a lot longer than initial plans but our money donors have all remained patient, and we do know that the wait will be well worth it. |
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Thank you for the update, but I hope that the people responsible for the delay knows that they are not acting like humans on planet Earth. After ingesting some strange fungi a couple of months ago, I pondered how obvious it seems that Mark could have simply given up on the project and accepted the paint theory. The demolition advocates should want to be the scientists they wished the government scientists could be. It really doesn't come across that Mark and friends believe they may be sitting on one of the biggest scientific discoveries of all time.
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Why does this take so long? and cost so much?
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Because truthers got their buts kicked in the microspheres debate, tried paint chip trickery and failed.
The first thing that needs to be done if the study comes back positive, for thermite is lock upmJones and the rest for withholding evidence, the studies he refused to release. |
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Is there a robust chain of custody for the dust sample?
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History shows a lot of resistance to controversial scientific discoveries.
Because his findings supported Copernican science and conflicted with Aristotelian science, Galileo was convicted of suspicion of heresy and sentenced to a lifetime house arrest. Today the state has so much power under the guise of National Security, there is very little protection from the whims of those in charge of threat assessment and response. Today the Internet makes easy targets of those who, without the crutch of anonymity, publicly express controversial research. When mild-mannered chemist Mark Basile got involved in researching nano-thermite, he, like other researchers, was not prepared for the personal cost. If the mainstream media was not such a slave to job security and greed, they would have smitten questions like nano-thermite years ago. How hard do you believe it would be for CBS to have obtained 9/11 WTC Ground Zero dust for a 60 MINUTES segment. The lab costs would be a minor entry in the budget. If the nano-thermite findings by Dr.Harrit et al cannot be reproduced independently, than that finding loses its legitimacy. One of the two big smoking guns of 9/11 could be laid to rest. Thanks to growing organizations like AE911Truth, few people are unaware of the continuing controversy surrounding 9/11. My point is, the ratings for such News stories would be expected to be quite good, read profitable. Stories like nano-thermite and the high speed collapse of WTC7 remain ignored or are scripted using pre-determined, unproven conclusions. Oddly, profit and fame-motivated TV News producers avoid quality investigations into 9/11 truth claims. Most certainly chemist Mark Basile never sought the suffocating attention that comes from being in the public eye. It should be no cause for wonder that sincere individuals like Mark Basile, now avoid additional publicity about their works-in-progress. At the end of the day, I expect that Mark Basile will either finish what he started or bow under the pressure and return all the money to his supporters. It certainly is not enough money to tempt him, or any other working professional into ruining their professional and personal reputations. |
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