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Old Today, 07:18 AM   #361
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WSJ Editorial Board: Joe Biden Must Answer Questions About Hunter Biden and China https://breitbart.com/national-secur...den-and-china/ via @BreitbartNews
Joe Biden is a totally corrupt politician, and got caught. At least now he won’t be able to raise your Taxes - Biggest increase in U.S. history!
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Old Today, 07:39 AM   #362
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Did I miss posts about Trump’s Chinese bank account?

The allegation comes from a NYT story that says it discovered the account by looking at his tax returns. He paid local Chinese taxes on a Trump International bank account.


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Did Donny “Projection” Trump call his opponent China Joe or Beijing Biden?
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Old Today, 07:47 AM   #363
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I am pleased to inform you that, for the sake of accuracy in reporting, I am considering posting my interview with Lesley Stahl of 60 Minutes, PRIOR TO AIRTIME! This will be done so that everybody can get a glimpse of what a FAKE and BIASED interview is all about...

...Everyone should compare this terrible Electoral Intrusion with the recent interviews of Sleepy Joe Biden!
Another lie from Trump. To consider implies thought and we all know Trump is incapable of thinking.
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Old Today, 08:50 AM   #364
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Great interview Eric!
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Flag of United States ERIC BOLLING Flag of United States
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Not sure what all the fuss was about today with @60Minutes and @realDonaldTrump .. He seemed perfectly fine at my TownHall- taped just minutes after he finished with @cbs.
Judge for yourselves->

(Video in link). https://twitter.com/ericbolling/stat...15146798288897
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Jenn Pellegrino OAN
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Trump on Biden’s press lids: “They put a lid... a lid like a garbage can”
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Donald Trump Jr. tweeted

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Secret Service Travel Records Confirm Hunter Biden Trips In Emails
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
I see it differently. Trump didn't like the interview. I think we all agree on that. But he imagines it went differently and in his mind his copy of the recording contains the 'differently'. But it doesn't.
That was exactly my thought. He sent that tweet, then his advisors viewed the complete tape and told him "bad idea" in a way that they thought would do the least damage to his ego.
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"Sir the media is showing a clip of you crapping your pants."
"What! That's outrageous! Release the full video!"
"Sir the full video is you crapping your pants and then crying about it."
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The President having a secret Chinese bank account and paying hundreds of times more taxes in China than the US seems like it should be a bigger thing.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
The President having a secret Chinese bank account and paying hundreds of times more taxes in China than the US seems like it should be a bigger thing.
Everything Trump does "should be a bigger thing."

But Trump gets a pass because he's a psychopathic monster with no morals or standards backed by a base of nihilistic trolls so it's not a sin when he does something horrible, but when an uppity Democrat hangs the toilet paper the wrong way "Oh that just proves they aren't as perfect as they think they are."

His base really does feel that the fact that he's openly wallowing in his horribleness gives him the benefit of the doubt over someone who actually has morals and standards.

You can't be a "hypocrite" or "uppity" or "over dramatic" if you are openly horrible across the board and those are the only sins Trump's supporters recognize.

All they care about is "taking people who think too much of themselves down a peg" and since Trump's already as low as a human can go, he's immune to that.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
The President having a secret Chinese bank account and paying hundreds of times more taxes in China than the US seems like it should be a bigger thing.
I don't think that's anywhere near the top-10 of Things that Should Be Bigger Things with Trump. But his base, and those benefiting from him or his base, don't care.

ETA: Remember the bouties on US soldiers, about which Trump did and said a total of diddly-squat? Those should absolutely sink him to the low single digits in any sane world where "patriot" means something other than "wannabe fascist".
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I'm sure some lip-reader will translate Stahl's comments from that clip immediately after the interview ended. I'd like to know that myself.
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"We'll see what happens... in... two weeks."

(I meant to post that yesterday.)
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
The President having a secret Chinese bank account and paying hundreds of times more taxes in China than the US seems like it should be a bigger thing.
Why ? Having account means nothing. And if he has any business in China, he's likely to pay taxes. And options to 'optimize' your taxes might be limited in China.
It makes for a good headline, but there is no story just yet.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Sid View Post
Why ? Having account means nothing. And if he has any business in China, he's likely to pay taxes. And options to 'optimize' your taxes might be limited in China.

It makes for a good headline, but there is no story just yet.
Remind me again, underneath all the bluster, what is the basic problem with Hunter Biden regarding China, exactly?
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
Remind me again, underneath all the bluster, what is the basic problem with Hunter Biden regarding China, exactly?
He has been there...maybe. So clearly it was for no good reason.
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Remind me again, underneath all the bluster, what is the basic problem with Hunter Biden regarding China, exactly?
He's usually accused of much more then 'having an account'. He's accused of tight relationship with China government and Joe Biden affecting US politics toward China because of that.
And say whatever you want against Trump, he's not very friendly toward China, especially in 2020.
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Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
Remind me again, underneath all the bluster, what is the basic problem with Hunter Biden regarding China, exactly?
They both exist on the same planet.Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Did I miss posts about Trump’s Chinese bank account?

The allegation comes from a NYT story that says it discovered the account by looking at his tax returns. He paid local Chinese taxes on a Trump International bank account.


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Did Donny “Projection” Trump call his opponent China Joe or Beijing Biden?
The discussion has been going on over in the Trump Taxes thread.

It needs a new thread of its own.
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Did I miss posts about Trump’s Chinese bank account?

The allegation comes from a NYT story that says it discovered the account by looking at his tax returns. He paid local Chinese taxes on a Trump International bank account.


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Did Donny “Projection” Trump call his opponent China Joe or Beijing Biden?
It was poked at a couple times in the Trump's tax returns thread.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
The President having a secret Chinese bank account and paying hundreds of times more taxes in China than the US seems like it should be a bigger thing.
It will be.
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Privatize the profits and socialize the losses. It's the American way. That's how Mnuchin got rich. Worse, he did it on the backs of elderly people who had been conned into reverse mortgages. Mnuchin paid zero, took on the debt then taxpayers bailed him out.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Everything Trump does "should be a bigger thing."

But Trump gets a pass because he's a psychopathic monster with no morals or standards backed by a base of nihilistic trolls so it's not a sin when he does something horrible, but when an uppity Democrat hangs the toilet paper the wrong way "Oh that just proves they aren't as perfect as they think they are."

His base really does feel that the fact that he's openly wallowing in his horribleness gives him the benefit of the doubt over someone who actually has morals and standards.

You can't be a "hypocrite" or "uppity" or "over dramatic" if you are openly horrible across the board and those are the only sins Trump's supporters recognize.

All they care about is "taking people who think too much of themselves down a peg" and since Trump's already as low as a human can go, he's immune to that.
We'll see.

Have some popcorn.
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Privatize the profits and socialize the losses. It's the American way. That's how Mnuchin got rich. Worse, he did it on the backs of elderly people who had been conned into reverse mortgages. Mnuchin paid zero, took on the debt then taxpayers bailed him out.
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I don't think that's anywhere near the top-10 of Things that Should Be Bigger Things with Trump. But his base, and those benefiting from him or his base, don't care.

ETA: Remember the bouties on US soldiers, about which Trump did and said a total of diddly-squat? Those should absolutely sink him to the low single digits in any sane world where "patriot" means something other than "wannabe fascist".
There's a certain little money laundering reveal that I'm sure Rachel Maddow will be on top of tonight.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
There's a certain little money laundering reveal that I'm sure Rachel Maddow will be on top of tonight.
Thinking required. Too complicated.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
"Sir the media is showing a clip of you crapping your pants."
"What! That's outrageous! Release the full video!"
"Sir the full video is you crapping your pants and then crying about it."
I have no doubt that if (or maybe I should say when) Trump craps his pants in public, his supporters will consider it a masterful piece of political gamesmanship, that could only be pulled off by a true (stable) genius like Trump.
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He's usually accused of much more then 'having an account'. He's accused of tight relationship with China government and Joe Biden affecting US politics toward China because of that.

And say whatever you want against Trump, he's not very friendly toward China, especially in 2020.
It's not like friendly disposition is a) in all cases bad, or b) the only kind of relationship that can be bad.

Trump's disposition towards and dealings in China (and his family members too) have influenced his thinking and the idiotic trade war is objectively bad for most parties.
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Just don’t see any way Nancy Pelosi and Cryin’ Chuck Schumer will be willing to do what is right for our great American workers, or our wonderful USA itself, on Stimulus. Their primary focus is BAILING OUT poorly run (and high crime) Democrat cities and states....

....Should take care of our people. It wasn’t their fault that the Plague came in from China!
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Obama on Trump:
"He's got a secret Chinese bank account. How's that possible? Listen, can you imagine if I had a secret Chinese bank account when I was running for reelection? You think Fox News might've been a little concerned? They would've called me Beijing Barry."

"There are consequences to [Trump's] actions. They embolden other people to be cruel & divisive & racist & it frays the fabric of our society. And it affects how our children seen things...it affects how the world looks at America. That behavior matters. Character matters"

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Trump: "Not much."

The President of the United States, faced with a still-raging virus that has sickened 8.2 million Americans and killed 221,000, says that there is "not much" that he would have done differently if he could do things all over.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/21/p...ing/index.html

Because he was never wrong.
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Not much Trump
CNN
Trump: "Not much."

The President of the United States, faced with a still-raging virus that has sickened 8.2 million Americans and killed 221,000, says that there is "not much" that he would have done differently if he could do things all over.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/21/p...ing/index.html

Because he was never wrong.
I thought he prevented eleventy-zillion deaths with his "not much" approach. Or was that something he said WAAAAAY in the past...like more than two days ago.
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