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Old 21st October 2019, 08:10 PM   #1
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Antigravity, engine and experiments with a flying saucer.

This article is a set of scientific facts, the results of my own research and their theoretical justification.

I posted the article in separate posts to create a sufficient number of posts and get the opportunity to add video and images.


Since antiquity, it was believed that all world space is filled with ether - a subatomic substance from which all types of matter are formed and the whole surrounding world consists. Theories of scientists, including the theory of gravity, were based on this statement. And even Newton initially agreed that the transfer of energy from one body to another, such as the attraction of planets, can occur only through the medium. But later he changed his mind, and it became generally accepted thanks to his authority in scientific circles.

The first theory explaining gravity, the so-called screen theory, advanced in 1748 by Lomonosov. He suggested that the two bodies next to them were bombarded from all sides with particles of ether, and because of the fact that these bodies close each other, the pressure of the ether between them becomes less and they approach. Further, in 1856, physicist Bjerknes advanced a pulsating theory, citing a simple experiment in which two balls vibrating freely on the water approached each other or repelled by the waves created by them depending on how they oscillated — in phase or semi-phase. The Englishman Cook conducted a similar experience with cylinders modeling electrical, magnetic and diamagnetic phenomena. The experimenter, Guthrie (1870) showed experiments on the attraction and repulsion of oscillating tuning forks. In 1958, Stanyukovich conducted an experiment on the theory of runoff from Schott. Air was blown into two hollow balls with many small holes. The outflow of air from the holes in the balls was the cause of the attraction of the balls. All these experiments beautifully illustrated the mechanism of gravity, provided that the ether is the medium through which interactions between bodies are transmitted.

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Old 21st October 2019, 08:11 PM   #2
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In order to prove the existence of ether, a number of experiments were also conducted. In the very first experiments in 1881, Michelson, using an interferometer, attempted to measure the velocity of the ether relative to the moving Earth and obtained an ether wind from 3 to 3.5 km / s, which did not correspond to the orbital speed of the planet at 30 km / s. Such a result can be explained by the fact that a large amount of ether is entrained by the Earth in the same way as the atmosphere. This experiment was criticized, and its result was rejected. Another fact that indicates the existence of a subatomic environment is the potential lag, as a result of which the interaction force decreases as a result of speed, discovered by Gauss in 1835. Gauss died not having had time to publish his discovery, and this was done by his friend years later, when the theory of relativity was already established in science. As it is known, the theory of relativity assumes that energy is transferred from atom to atom instantly. Therefore, in order for the theory to work, the curvature of the space of time — the measurement system — was invented. Already relatively recently, modern scientists have made a number of discoveries that do not fit into the theory of relativity. For example, the superluminal propagation of photons, discovered by a group of American scientists led by Alain Aspect.
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Old 21st October 2019, 08:13 PM   #3
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It is also important to note the discovery made by nuclear engineer Nikolai Noskov (National Nuclear Center, Republic of Kazakhstan). As a result of his research, he suggested that the so-called increase in the length of an atom during movement is caused by its longitudinal vibrations associated with the rotation of electrons in orbit. The planetary model of the atom, proposed in 1911 by Ernest Rutherford after a series of experiments, came into conflict with classical electrodynamics, according to which an electron must radiate electromagnetic waves when moving with centripetal acceleration therefore, lose energy and fall on the core. Therefore, it was rejected in favor of quantum mechanics and the principle of the cloud of probabilities. But if we take into account the experience with vibrating balls and the presence of ether, then we can assume that the waves emitted by the electron are the force that prevents the electron from falling. From all this we can conclude that the atom can be described by classical mechanics as an exact mechanism.
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Old 21st October 2019, 08:17 PM   #4
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Consider the mechanical model of the hydrogen atom, which is acted upon by the force of attraction of another atom, based on classical mechanics (images 1 and 2)

The electric motor in the center is the nucleus of an atom, and the magnet on the pendulum is an electron. A magnet mounted on a rod rigidly connected to the axis of rotation of the pendulum plays the role of the positively charged nucleus of another atom, the attraction of which acts on the electron. While the engine is running, the pendulum, passing by the magnet on the rod, first accelerates and then slows down. Thus, in a separate area, the centrifugal force increases, and creates a reactive moment in one direction more than in the others. Such a system is an inertial — an engine that, by redistributing its mass at different speeds, is repelled from the environment. With a small oscillation frequency, such a system moves in a homogeneous medium almost linearly, along a long arc, with a high frequency it rotates almost in place.
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Old 21st October 2019, 08:18 PM   #5
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Old 21st October 2019, 08:21 PM   #6
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The process occurring during oscillatory motion in homogeneous - liquid and gaseous media can be described as follows: asymmetric oscillations lead to the formation of a wave medium in which two oppositely directed waves of different forces, made alternately, exist simultaneously by inertia and create a pressure difference leading to uneven the release of thermal energy from the environment in the form of a vortex, pushing the object.
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Old 21st October 2019, 08:25 PM   #7
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Such an experiment is easy to repeat at home. It is necessary to lower the palm into the water and make a quick movement in one direction and slow in the other. During the reverse movement, the resistance of the water will be greater due to the energy released from the water. This process has the following explanation: Particles of matter are as close as possible to each other and at the same time equidistant. The only possible position in which they can be equidistant relative to each other is triangles, which are combined into hexagons. This corresponds to the crystal structure of water (image 3)
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Old 21st October 2019, 08:26 PM   #8
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Particle 1 gets a boost. Assume that the particles will move along the path of least resistance, as shown by the arrows. If these are billiard balls, then each time the impulse 1 will be divided by 3 and will lose power. But if these are vibrating particles, then each time during a collision, the energy of the pulse will increase, because the vibrating object itself creates a repulsion impulse. There will be a chain reaction, which will first lead to the formation of multiple vortices, the prerequisites for which are in the figure, turning into large vortices that will transmit impulse to particle 1 in the same direction. This means that when making asymmetric oscillations, particle 1 will move in the medium in the direction of a strong pulse.
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Old 21st October 2019, 08:31 PM   #9
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We also see that particles 7 form a front in three directions, which illustrates the structure of the shock wave during the flight of a bullet. This front has the property to spread further as the vortex force continues to grow, supported by the vibrations of the first body. A vortex structure is formed around the body, which has a greater density than the environment and creates the effect of added mass. It increases the area of interaction of the first body with the environment, and at the same time its strength due to its own energy. The Grebennikov effect, which he discovered in cavity structures and elytra of beetles, is associated with this phenomenon. The special structure of shark skin, dandelion seeds, bird feathers and much more is also connected with this. Such a surface contributes to the formation of multiple microvortexes, even with weak motion. Based on this, the aerodynamics of bird flight, and the motion of the jellyfish are as follows: first, a vortex is generated from the environment, having a greater density and mass than the environment, and then it is thrown backwards as jet fuel (images 4, 5)

By simplifying this mechanics to asymmetric vibrations, we get a flying saucer (image 6)
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Old 21st October 2019, 08:32 PM   #10
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Therefore, gravity is the movement of a substance along the path of least resistance due to the repulsion from the environment, anti-gravity is any way of movement by creating a pressure difference.

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Old 21st October 2019, 08:33 PM   #11
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It can be assumed that in the same way atoms and other particles in the ether move. An atom with a high electron rotation velocity is more repelled by other atoms, and this explains the expansion of matter when heated. Pushing away from other atoms and following the path of least resistance, the heated gas rises. At the same time, its ability to move in the direction of other atoms, to gravitate will be minimal. If the speed of rotation of the electron in orbit decreases, then the ability to repel oneself from obstacles decreases, and the ability to move in a homogeneous ether medium will increase. Adding electrons to the atomic orbit will reduce the asymmetry, and accordingly, the amplitude of its oscillations.
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Old 21st October 2019, 08:35 PM   #12
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Therefore, a heavy substance with a large number of electrons even at a high speed of their rotation will work as a gyroscope, trying to stay in place. The force of attraction of the nucleus of a nearby atom leads to the fact that all electrons will move in his direction at the same time. Having formed a pendulum on the similarity of a parade of planets, they will simultaneously create an impulse of inertia in one direction, as a result of which the oscillations will become asymmetrical, and gravity will occur (image 7)
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Old 21st October 2019, 08:36 PM   #13
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The greater the mass of the pendulum, the more efficient the movement. Therefore, heavy matter has a large gravity. It is the difference between these qualities - the frequency of oscillations of atoms, their mechanical structure and determines the distribution of matter in the universe. The arrangement of atoms in crystal lattices is determined by the frequency, amplitude and direction of their oscillations. They are constantly striving to advance to the center of the total mass and repel each other by a small distance. The atoms of a liquid or gas move towards each other at a lower speed, and the force of their repulsion is great. Celestial bodies and planetary, star systems move to meet each other along spiral trajectories due to their own vibrations, the greater momentum of which depends on their relative position.
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In this process, leading to asymmetric oscillations occur at the level of planetary systems. When the planets are located chaotically in orbits around a star, their gravitational forces act evenly, and the star remains in the center. When the planets begin to approach each other, a gravitational interaction occurs between them, they accelerate. And when the planets line up in a single line, forming a parade, their total gravity acts on the star, creating a reactive moment, leading to its sharp shift relative to the center of mass of the entire system. Provided that the planetary system interacts with the environment, this leads to its independent movement. The more the system approaches the source of attraction, the faster the rotation of the bodies in its orbit. Therefore, as it approaches, the trajectory will go from a straight line into a rotation in place, forming a spiral. This principle explains the behavior of all matter in the universe, its properties to form spiral structures at micro and macro levels. On the example of water perturbed by a single impulse, one can see how complex structures can be obtained from a homogeneous substance, resembling the structure of the universe visible to us. If you create a movement in the transparent water, so that the smallest perturbations are visible, then you can see that all the processes occurring there are one or another derivative of the vortices. At the macro level, we can see the similarity of this process with multiple galaxies, planetary systems. At less levels, we can say that the vortex has the properties of a solid. Consisting of the same as the environment, it has a large mass, density, inertness due to its own gyroscopic effect. It can move in the medium by inertia, overcoming its resistance, taking and then taking the substance out of it. In this simple experience, one can see how galaxies form and cease to exist, how more dense matter is formed from the environment. In this case, as follows from the above examples, the energy that drives the vortices in motion, is taken from the substance itself. The particles independently move towards each other along a spiral path and repel each other. Based on these findings, it can be assumed that the base substance - the ether from which all matter is composed has the same peculiarity of spiraling as all the substance that is formed by it. This can be confirmed by the vortex structure of the photon. Here it is possible to draw an absolutely clear analogy of radio and light waves with a wave at sea - they have a spiral structure. Thus, the method of motion in a viscous medium is applicable in the cosmic ether.
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Assuming that the ether is a medium with the properties of a viscous, inert substance, we can also assume that the two atoms in it will move to meet each other along a spiral trajectory, similar to the model of the atom proposed above, having the same number of positive and negative charges . Such a movement fully corresponds to the phenomena observed in the universe, explains the spiral structure of the galaxy. Such conclusions indicate the reality of the creation of aerospace vehicles on the wave principle, using free energy from the environment for movement.

To confirm this concept, I carried out a series of experiments in which an anti-gravity engine that simulates the vibrations of an atom during movement was set on a float, discoid and sickle-shaped wing. Fluctuations with the help of an engine set the float in motion, and the lift of the wing in the oncoming flow increased significantly due to the formation of acoustic waves.
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Nikolai Noskov (National Nuclear Center, Republic of Kazakhstan). As a result of his research, he suggested that the so-called increase in the length of an atom during movement is caused by its longitudinal vibrations associated with the rotation of electrons in orbit. http://nt.ru/tp/ng/yzp.htm


1 Antigravity engine.


2 Inertia

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3 Antigravity.

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https://youtu.be/ECjTOa_mm5k


4 Aerodynamics bird flight.


5 The principle of movement of jellyfish.


6 The principle of movement of the flying saucer
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https://youtu.be/EVNT3PKmoy4


7 Parade of planets.


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Instead of writing an article one paragraph at a time, spread out over a multitude of posts, it would be helpful if you had started with a short summary in your first post so that people opening this thread would know what you wanted to discuss. As it is, I don't think many people are going to want to wade through more than a dozen posts to figure out what the point of this thread is.

I think you are still within the 2-hour window for editing a post, if you'd like to write a concise summary, put that into your opening post of this thread, and move the contents currently inhabiting the first post into the second post to join the content that's already there. If the summary is short, clear, and interesting, that might make people more likely to read the article you're in the process of posting and more likely to join in discussing it with you.
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How about the OP explain why he is spamming the internet?

Almost the same verbiage is here at Cosmoquest: https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthr...-flying-saucer

I remember seeing some of the same photos there.

Any reason why you are making almost the same claims here? Are you going to stay and answer questions?

Taken from post number #15 from that thread with apologies to Reality Check since I jacked-up the formatting and included links:

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Many problems with this post, MasterOgon
A video is not scientific literature. No citations backing up your assertions is not good.
Irrelevant science does not make a case for anti-gravity - phonons are textbook solid state physics.
Quasiparticles are not real particles as the name states.
What phonons do inside a solid object does not produce gravitation outside of the object.
Agreements from antiquity are a well known logical fallacy especially in science where old arguments are debunked by new evidence.
Outdated gravitational theories.
The theory of an entrained aether was dubious 30 years before the 1881 Michelson–Morley experiment.
See Aether drag hypothesis
The curvature of spacetime using established mathematics was used in general relativity to explain gravitation.
It is QM that is the theory of atoms and their interactions.
We know that energy is transferred between atoms by photons traveling at the speed of light or massive particles traveling less than the speed of light.
Alain Aspect (a quantum physicist) did not find "superluminal propagation of photons" that did not fit into relativity.
You may be referring to the 1982 Aspect et. al. test of Bell's theorem.
An anti-relativity crank Nick Noskov.
Classical physics states that atoms cannot be described by classical mechanics!
Electrons are in orbit and accelerating. Accelerating charges emit radiation and lose energy. Classical physics states that atoms cannot exist.
Electrons and atoms have both particle and wave properties. Classical physics states this cannot happen.
Electrons and atoms have quantized spin. Classical physics states this cannot happen.
"Consider the mechanical model of the hydrogen atom" which classical physics says cannot exist!
See the last point.
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Originally Posted by MasterOgon View Post
In order to prove the existence of ether, a number of experiments were also conducted. In the very first experiments in 1881, Michelson, using an interferometer, attempted to measure the velocity of the ether relative to the moving Earth and obtained an ether wind from 3 to 3.5 km / s, which did not correspond to the orbital speed of the planet at 30 km / s.
I thought that the famous Michelson-Morley established that there was no movement of Earth relative to the aether whatsoever. They demonstrated that the speed of light was the same regardless of which direction their interferometer was pointing. This would not be possible if their was an "aether wind".

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ley_experiment
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I popularize spam this
This is the correct English wording.
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About Michelson-Morley experiments taken here - Centenary ethereal war. Nikolay Noskov
http://n-t.ru/tpe/ng/sev.htm

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About Michelson-Morley experiments taken here - Centenary ethereal war. Nikolay Noskov
http://n-t.ru/tpe/ng/sev.htm
Полная чушь.
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Originally Posted by MasterOgon View Post
I popularize this
It is against the forum rules to post, verbatim, text that is available somewhere else.

You can post an exert, and provide a link to the original.

This is all going to get deleted and you will be warned to follow the membership agreement.
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I popularize this
And you are doing a good job. I can't remember having more laugh than while watching the video you posted link to:
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Ok, well, fascinating.

I do wonder though, why bother posting here when you could be making antigravity vehicles and becoming filthy rich?

Or is this one of those 'invest in my machine' type things. You're ALMOST there but need some money?
In which case I'd suggest getting into contact with the forum for the brilliant light machine, you might get them to send you money so you can use it (once it is ready) to power your machines (once they are ready).
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больше похоже на чистую фантазию
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Originally Posted by Little 10 Toes View Post
How about the OP explain why he is spamming the internet?

Almost the same verbiage is here at Cosmoquest: https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthr...-flying-saucer

I remember seeing some of the same photos there.

Any reason why you are making almost the same claims here? Are you going to stay and answer questions?

Taken from post number #15 from that thread with apologies to Reality Check since I jacked-up the formatting and included links:

I thought that looked familiar!
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Originally Posted by Molinaro View Post
It is against the forum rules to post, verbatim, text that is available somewhere else.

You can post an exert, and provide a link to the original.

This is all going to get deleted and you will be warned to follow the membership agreement.
Unfortunately, I did not notice this. It would be much easier to post a link.
http://new-original-style.com.ua/pag.../engine_en.htm
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Полная чушь.
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научная фантастика
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больше похоже на чистую фантазию
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Complete nonsense
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science fiction
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more like pure fantasy
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I don’t think that you can justify your opinion with anything other than the accepted dogmas of modern science and Wikipedia links. But the experiment proving their fallacy will not go anywhere.
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Old 23rd October 2019, 04:41 PM   #33
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Unfortunately, I did not notice this. It would be much easier to post a link.
http://new-original-style.com.ua/pag.../engine_en.htm
Why not? It is in the membership agreement that you legally signed on to just to become a member here. Are you stating that you did not read that agreement?
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Old 23rd October 2019, 09:13 PM   #35
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Probably inattentive. I hope I don’t go to hell now because of this.
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Old 23rd October 2019, 11:25 PM   #36
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You go to all the trouble of making multiple posts full of crackpot ideas to get enough reputation to add video and images, and this is all you've got?

You could have posted something more interesting, like a picture of your cat or a video showing how to get stains out of a blue dress. Hoping your next post will have something worth looking at!
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Originally Posted by psionl0 View Post
I thought that the famous Michelson-Morley established that there was no movement of Earth relative to the aether whatsoever. They demonstrated that the speed of light was the same regardless of which direction their interferometer was pointing. This would not be possible if their was an "aether wind".

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ley_experiment
That was the point at which I stopped reading. The Michelson-Morley experiment is well documented and widely reported at the time and repeated since.
http://www.exphy.uni-duesseldorf.de/...vel%202009.pdf
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That was the point at which I stopped reading. The Michelson-Morley experiment is well documented and widely reported at the time and repeated since.
http://www.exphy.uni-duesseldorf.de/...vel%202009.pdf
As far as I know, opinions on this experiment are divided. But he is not the main one. The most important argument is:

"The principle of operation of the inertoid engine is based on the fact that there is a load inside it, which, with the help of an electric motor drive, makes periodic movement along a closed path inside the machine body. When moving in one direction, the force that accelerates the load is small, when moving in the opposite direction, the accelerating force is large According to Newton’s third law, when the load moves in one direction, it acts on the body of the inertoid with a small force not exceeding the inertial rest force of the inertoid on the Earth’s surface, and when moving in the other direction - with a large force exceeding the friction force and driving the inertoid.

The principle of action of inertcoids lies in the fact that their purposeful movement is caused by the difference in the frictional force in the support during direct and reverse half-cycle operation. With dry friction, the resistance to slow motion exceeds the resistance to fast (with one half-stroke, when a small force is applied, the static friction is not overcome and the apparatus remains in place; with a reverse half-cycle, the friction is overcome, the apparatus moves). In liquids, on the contrary, resistance to fast motion prevails over resistance to slow motion. The explanation of the effect in liquids is fundamentally different (since there is no rest friction force in liquids and gases) and is based on the viscous friction forces. " https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98...B8%D0%B4%D1%8B


My experiment showed that there is no fundamental difference between dry and viscous friction. The inertioid moves in the liquid in the same direction as on a solid surface. This is because the water that it pushed forward, after a while pushes it from behind. This means that the interaction does not occur instantly. This is a fundamental mistake of science.

https://youtu.be/ECjTOa_mm5k

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Originally Posted by MasterOgon View Post
As far as I know, opinions on this experiment are divided.
Yes, they're divided between the vast majority who are right, and a handful of cranks and crackpots.
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Originally Posted by MasterOgon View Post
As far as I know, opinions on this experiment are divided.
Opinions may be divided, facts aren't.
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