ISF Logo   IS Forum
Forum Index Register Members List Events Mark Forums Read Help

Go Back   International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » Social Issues & Current Events
 


Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today.
Reply
Old 16th July 2018, 03:48 AM   #521
banquetbear
Graduate Poster
 
banquetbear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,558
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
The pommy guy was insufferable and arrogant.
...the pommy guy is the only reason the boys are still alive.

Cite.

https://twitter.com/pakhead/status/1018710040532799488

The authorities were going to give up. Unsworth convinced them to continue. He was crucial to the search. Without him we wouldn't even be having this conversation. He was put on the spot during an interview and he said what he said. Give the guy a *********** break for ***** sakes. He's a *********** hero.
banquetbear is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 04:01 AM   #522
Hungry81
Master Poster
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,248
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
The pommy guy was insufferable and arrogant. I am surprised this hoax is running, Musk is involved in the only sensible use of space technology, diversion of asteroids from the pommy guy's kids' log cabins.
Will pommy guy suggest Musk stick this useful device up his backside?
Yeah the pommy guy was a bit rude, but that does not excuse Musks reaction. All he has done is expose himself as an ill mannered jerk. Hopefully he can learn from this, appologise in a meaningful way with fistfuls of sorry and donation cash, gain some hubris and get on with running companies that produce revolutionary technology.
Hungry81 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 04:07 AM   #523
GlennB
Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian
 
GlennB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Arcadia, Greece
Posts: 25,473
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
The pommy guy was insufferable and arrogant. I am surprised this hoax is running, Musk is involved in the only sensible use of space technology, diversion of asteroids from the pommy guy's kids' log cabins.
Will pommy guy suggest Musk stick this useful device up his backside?
What hoax?

What's this about Musk and asteroid diversion?

Just ... what????
__________________
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day. 9/11 truth is a clock with no hands." - Beachnut
GlennB is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 05:07 AM   #524
cullennz
Embarrasingly illiterate
 
cullennz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,067
Musk was a tool

It was either a publicity stunt or I seriously have more doubts about how his actual basic logic works thinking a inflexible overlong tube was going to move round a tight twisting tunnel system, let alone fit through a hole smaller than it's circumference, at one stage.

Was it supposed to float in mid air between the water bits? Or be hauled manually

Good luck with that though Leon
__________________
I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With todayĺs Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.

Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 , Jul 2, 2000
cullennz is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 05:46 AM   #525
GlennB
Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian
 
GlennB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Arcadia, Greece
Posts: 25,473
Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
Musk was a tool

It was either a publicity stunt or I seriously have more doubts about how his actual basic logic works thinking a inflexible overlong tube was going to move round a tight twisting tunnel system, let alone fit through a hole smaller than it's circumference, at one stage.

Was it supposed to float in mid air between the water bits? Or be hauled manually

Good luck with that though Leon
This page of google images gives a good clue to just how stupid the submarine idea was in respect of the highlighted bit.
__________________
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day. 9/11 truth is a clock with no hands." - Beachnut

Last edited by GlennB; 16th July 2018 at 05:49 AM.
GlennB is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 06:01 AM   #526
angrysoba
Philosophile
 
angrysoba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Osaka, Japan
Posts: 25,812
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
The pommy guy was insufferable and arrogant.
Yeah, he only saved the kids' lives.

Originally Posted by Samson View Post
I am surprised this hoax is running,
I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.

Originally Posted by Samson View Post
Musk is involved in the only sensible use of space technology, diversion of asteroids from the pommy guy's kids' log cabins.
All that can be true, and much else besides. Is this why you are an uncritical, squealing fanboy?

Originally Posted by Samson View Post
Will pommy guy suggest Musk stick this useful device up his backside?
Why should he? Elon Musk's space technology, like Elon Musk's submarine technology, and Elon Musk's bruised ego, and Elon Musk's squealing fanboys, are irrelevant.

Elon Musk made a vile and inexcusable smear, simply because he is too petulant to realize that he is not the story here. I wish him all the best in what he is good at, and he should, by the same token leave it up to others to do what they are good at.
__________________
"The thief and the murderer follow nature just as much as the philanthropist. Cosmic evolution may teach us how the good and the evil tendencies of man may have come about; but, in itself, it is incompetent to furnish any better reason why what we call good is preferable to what we call evil than we had before."

"Evolution and Ethics" T.H. Huxley (1893)
angrysoba is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 06:03 AM   #527
Rolfe
Anti-homeopathy illuminati member
 
Rolfe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NT 150 511
Posts: 43,812
Oh look, there's another stupid graphic with the boy swimming like an expert cave diver. "Financial Times research." Not impressed.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...&iact=c&ictx=1
__________________
"The way we vote will depend, ultimately, on whether we are persuaded to hope or to fear." - Aonghas MacNeacail, June 2012.

Last edited by Rolfe; 16th July 2018 at 06:09 AM.
Rolfe is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 06:06 AM   #528
DreadNiK
A typical atypical
 
DreadNiK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 908
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
The pommy guy was insufferable and arrogant. I am surprised this hoax is running, Musk is involved in the only sensible use of space technology, diversion of asteroids from the pommy guy's kids' log cabins.
Will pommy guy suggest Musk stick this useful device up his backside?
either an idiot or a troll. not sure which yet.
__________________
Question Everything - Just not always out loud...

Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate
DreadNiK is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 07:09 AM   #529
Steve
Philosopher
 
Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,769
Originally Posted by DreadNiK View Post
either an idiot or a troll. not sure which yet.
They often come as a package deal.
__________________
Caption from and old New Yorker cartoon - Why am I shouting? Because I'm wrong!"
Steve is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 08:02 AM   #530
Information Analyst
Philosopher
 
Information Analyst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Besźel or Ul Qoma - not sure...
Posts: 9,878
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
Musk said pedo not pedophile.
So short for...?
Information Analyst is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 08:34 AM   #531
Bob001
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,288
An update. Unsworth considering law suit:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...?noredirect=on
Bob001 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 12:58 PM   #532
Checkmite
Skepticifimisticalationist
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Gulf Coast
Posts: 24,422
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
I am surprised this hoax is running, Musk is involved in the only sensible use of space technology
Like launching his cars into space.
__________________
"┐WHAT KIND OF BIRD?
┐A PARANORMAL BIRD?"
--- Carlos S., 2002
Checkmite is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 01:01 PM   #533
SuburbanTurkey
Master Poster
 
SuburbanTurkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Boston, USA
Posts: 2,168
What is Musk trying to prove here? Seems to me is he is just ass-chapped that his stupid mini sub was rejected. He was also denied his "I told you so, but you wouldn't listen" when the divers rescue mission was an unqualified success. Is there any reading of this twitter meltdown other than Musk is a petulant child upset that he is not the center of attention?
__________________
Gobble gobble
SuburbanTurkey is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 01:13 PM   #534
GlennB
Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian
 
GlennB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Arcadia, Greece
Posts: 25,473
Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
What is Musk trying to prove here? Seems to me is he is just ass-chapped that his stupid mini sub was rejected. He was also denied his "I told you so, but you wouldn't listen" when the divers rescue mission was an unqualified success. Is there any reading of this twitter meltdown other than Musk is a petulant child upset that he is not the center of attention?
It's hard to see one. Unfortunately this seems to be becoming a trend for him - attention is what he craves.
__________________
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day. 9/11 truth is a clock with no hands." - Beachnut
GlennB is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 01:21 PM   #535
Steve
Philosopher
 
Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,769
Originally Posted by GlennB View Post
It's hard to see one. Unfortunately this seems to be becoming a trend for him - attention is what he craves.
Bet he will be running for POTUS in the near future. He has the qualifications.
__________________
Caption from and old New Yorker cartoon - Why am I shouting? Because I'm wrong!"
Steve is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 01:27 PM   #536
SuburbanTurkey
Master Poster
 
SuburbanTurkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Boston, USA
Posts: 2,168
Originally Posted by GlennB View Post
It's hard to see one. Unfortunately this seems to be becoming a trend for him - attention is what he craves.
Thankfully for him, none of the kids drowned during the rescue attempt. I don't think he would have been able to restrain himself.
__________________
Gobble gobble
SuburbanTurkey is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 01:32 PM   #537
Guybrush Threepwood
Trainee Pirate
 
Guybrush Threepwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: An Uaimh
Posts: 2,739
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Bet he will be running for POTUS in the near future. He has the qualifications.
Not being American might slow that down a bit.
Guybrush Threepwood is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 01:50 PM   #538
Galaxie
Critical Thinker
 
Galaxie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 440
Originally Posted by Cleon View Post
Those kids have been through heaven and hell. And the rescuers must've seemed like a rainbow in the dark - they were holy divers for sure. Good thing the kids didn't have to die young.
I see what you did there, Cleon
Galaxie is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 01:51 PM   #539
Nessie
Penultimate Amazing
 
Nessie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 12,348
The under great stress, tired and hard working rescue diver makes a mildly rude comment and a multimillionaire who was sniping from the sidelines responds with a comment that is also insulting to Thailand, as it plays on the stereotype of it being the place to go for child sex.

I think Tesla's future could be at risk due to the conduct of its founder. Why would people buy from someone who thinks he can say anything to anyone is above common decency?
__________________
Audiophile/biker/sceptic
Nessie is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 01:58 PM   #540
Steve
Philosopher
 
Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,769
Originally Posted by Guybrush Threepwood View Post
Not being American might slow that down a bit.
My mistake then. Lucky for the US.
__________________
Caption from and old New Yorker cartoon - Why am I shouting? Because I'm wrong!"
Steve is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:05 PM   #541
Samson
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 8,432
Originally Posted by Nessie View Post
The under great stress, tired and hard working rescue diver makes a mildly rude comment and a multimillionaire who was sniping from the sidelines responds with a comment that is also insulting to Thailand, as it plays on the stereotype of it being the place to go for child sex.

I think Tesla's future could be at risk due to the conduct of its founder. Why would people buy from someone who thinks he can say anything to anyone is above common decency?
I can't see any world where the diver's comments would go unnoticed except this forum.
Once he started using anal references for another man who was also bringing his resources and ideas to the party,he crossed a line, but he gets a leave pass because he helped rescue the kids?
No.

Please let us have a reasoned defence for his extraordinary and vile insult.
Samson is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:09 PM   #542
Checkmite
Skepticifimisticalationist
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Gulf Coast
Posts: 24,422
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
Please let us have a reasoned defence for his extraordinary and vile insult.
It wasn't accusation of pedophilia.

And yes, he gets a pass because he actually helped to rescue the kids, unlike Musk.
__________________
"┐WHAT KIND OF BIRD?
┐A PARANORMAL BIRD?"
--- Carlos S., 2002

Last edited by Checkmite; 16th July 2018 at 02:11 PM.
Checkmite is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:12 PM   #543
Steve
Philosopher
 
Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,769
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
I can't see any world where the diver's comments would go unnoticed except this forum.
Once he started using anal references for another man who was also bringing his resources and ideas to the party,he crossed a line, but he gets a leave pass because he helped rescue the kids?No.

Please let us have a reasoned defence for his extraordinary and vile insult.
Once he started using the word *pedophile* for another man who was also bringing his resources and ideas to the party,he crossed a line, but he gets a leave pass because he claimed he helped rescue the kids?

Please explain the difference between the two paragraphs.
__________________
Caption from and old New Yorker cartoon - Why am I shouting? Because I'm wrong!"
Steve is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:13 PM   #544
Nessie
Penultimate Amazing
 
Nessie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 12,348
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
I can't see any world where the diver's comments would go unnoticed except this forum.
Once he started using anal references for another man who was also bringing his resources and ideas to the party,he crossed a line, but he gets a leave pass because he helped rescue the kids?
No.

Please let us have a reasoned defence for his extraordinary and vile insult.
I am not defending the comment (of which I have only the references made to it here to go by). I am pointing out that people, under great stress, when being sniped at from the sidelines, who say something untoward are reacting as many would do for an understandable reason.

In the UK, telling someone to go and shove it where the sun does not shine (or variation thereof), is a comment that is considered mild and with a hint of humour. It is nothing like being called a paedophile, which is a horrific insult.
__________________
Audiophile/biker/sceptic
Nessie is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:16 PM   #545
Myriad
Hyperthetical
 
Myriad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: A pocket paradise between the sewage treatment plant and the railroad
Posts: 15,546
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
I can't see any world where the diver's comments would go unnoticed except this forum.
Once he started using anal references for another man who was also bringing his resources and ideas to the party,he crossed a line, but he gets a leave pass because he helped rescue the kids?
No.

Please let us have a reasoned defence for his extraordinary and vile insult.

Unsworth said "...stick it where it hurts." Calling that an anal reference is like calling "it sucks" a fellatio reference.

No need to get all butthurt about it on some billionaire's behalf.
__________________
A z°mbie once bit my sister...
Myriad is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:18 PM   #546
Nessie
Penultimate Amazing
 
Nessie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 12,348
Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
It wasn't accusation of pedophilia.

And yes, he gets a pass because he actually helped to rescue the kids, unlike Musk.
In the UK, being called a paedo is the same as as being called a paedophile.

Musk is also playing on the horrible child sex tourism that at least was associated with Thailand as he suggest the diver only went there for sexual activity with the children he was rescuing.

That is a sick mind vs an off the cuff mild insult by someone under great stress.
__________________
Audiophile/biker/sceptic
Nessie is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:27 PM   #547
Myriad
Hyperthetical
 
Myriad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: A pocket paradise between the sewage treatment plant and the railroad
Posts: 15,546
Also, it's a law of nature that strong language becomes less common and more aggressive the farther you are from the center of the earth. Sailors, who work at sea level, are notorious for swearing, but miners, submariners, and divers swear even more (probably because most of the time, even fewer people can hear them). Truckers, who must sometimes pass through high-altitude regions, are constrained in their speech ("mercy sakes, good buddy") but can still be emotionally expressive on occasion. Airline pilots are expected to remain calm and polite all the time, while astronauts are trained to use the most mild language possible because the whole world is listening in.

When Musk is representing the Boring Company he can call people ***** and pedos and ******** all he wants and no one will pay much attention, but when he's representing SpaceX he'd better watch his tongue. It must be hard for him to keep up sometimes ("What if I'm deep underground with a submarine but it's made of rocket parts?") but he has to try harder.
__________________
A z°mbie once bit my sister...
Myriad is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:30 PM   #548
GlennB
Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian
 
GlennB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Arcadia, Greece
Posts: 25,473
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
I can't see any world where the diver's comments would go unnoticed except this forum.
Once he started using anal references for another man who was also bringing his resources and ideas to the party,he crossed a line, but he gets a leave pass because he helped rescue the kids?
No.

Please let us have a reasoned defence for his extraordinary and vile insult.
1. It wasn't an 'extraordinary and vile insult'.
2. Musk had no business in getting involved.
3. Musk's sub was a very stupid idea.
4. His intervention was a distraction from vital and supremely difficult work.
5. Musk is often a colossal twat when he strays from his areas of expertise.
6. Unsworth was probably stressed and tired before the twatmeister intervened with an ignorant and dangerous rescue concept.
7. Maybe Unsworth was pretty irritated at Musk for trying to grab some glory.

When it comes to blame here I'm rating it 99-1 on Musk's side.
__________________
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day. 9/11 truth is a clock with no hands." - Beachnut
GlennB is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:33 PM   #549
Samson
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 8,432
Originally Posted by Myriad View Post
Unsworth said "...stick it where it hurts." Calling that an anal reference is like calling "it sucks" a fellatio reference.

No need to get all butthurt about it on some billionaire's behalf.
Maybe it's a cultural northern hemisphere thing to verbally attack and seriously belittle another man who had nothing to prove but a willingness to bring resources to the international effort.
Maybe not, maybe it was just that one diver.

Stick it where it hurts is as unambiguous as pedo if you like, they have both besmirched the mood of the rescue.

Last edited by Samson; 16th July 2018 at 02:40 PM.
Samson is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:39 PM   #550
Elagabalus
Illuminator
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,913
Originally Posted by GlennB View Post
1. It wasn't an 'extraordinary and vile insult'.
2. Musk had no business in getting involved.
3. Musk's sub was a very stupid idea.
4. His intervention was a distraction from vital and supremely difficult work.
5. Musk is often a colossal twat when he strays from his areas of expertise.
6. Unsworth was probably stressed and tired before the twatmeister intervened with an ignorant and dangerous rescue concept.
7. Maybe Unsworth was pretty irritated at Musk for trying to grab some glory.

When it comes to blame here I'm rating it 99-1 on Musk's side.
Musk's onsite team might have been comprised mainly of people who act like Elon Musk (why else would he have hired them?) and rubbed everybody the wrong way.
Elagabalus is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:41 PM   #551
Myriad
Hyperthetical
 
Myriad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: A pocket paradise between the sewage treatment plant and the railroad
Posts: 15,546
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
Stick it where it hurts is as unambiguous as pedo if you like, they have both besmirched the mood of the rescue.

Maybe so, but only one of them brought a giant dildo with him into the cave.
__________________
A z°mbie once bit my sister...
Myriad is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 02:47 PM   #552
GlennB
Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian
 
GlennB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Arcadia, Greece
Posts: 25,473
Originally Posted by Nessie View Post
The under great stress, tired and hard working rescue diver makes a mildly rude comment and a multimillionaire who was sniping from the sidelines responds with a comment that is also insulting to Thailand, as it plays on the stereotype of it being the place to go for child sex.

I think Tesla's future could be at risk due to the conduct of its founder. Why would people buy from someone who thinks he can say anything to anyone is above common decency?
Tesla's share price dropped 3% on Jul 16th. Possibly entirely coincidental, but given that Tesla's value is based far more on impressions than performance then maybe it's not coincidental.
__________________
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day. 9/11 truth is a clock with no hands." - Beachnut
GlennB is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 03:53 PM   #553
Bob001
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 9,288
Originally Posted by GlennB View Post
Tesla's share price dropped 3% on Jul 16th. Possibly entirely coincidental, but given that Tesla's value is based far more on impressions than performance then maybe it's not coincidental.

Not necessarily coincidental.
Quote:
Tesla stock has plunged more than 16 percent since last month, shaving billions of dollars off the company’s market value at a time when it still depends on investor cash and confidence. The company lost $2 billion last year and has never earned an annual profit.

Even Musk’s shareholders and supporters are beginning to question how his temper could affect the company he built, and their bottom line.

“This thing is unraveling,” said Gordon Johnson, the managing director of Vertical Group, a New York-based investment research group. “You had a very big shareholder last week say they want him to focus on executing and stop with the tweets — and then, this weekend, you get more tweets. What’s his angle? What is he doing? … He keeps promising all of these things, and he keeps missing, and he’s not being held to task.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...=.4cfd66929b41
Bob001 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 04:36 PM   #554
Elagabalus
Illuminator
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 4,913
Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post


I'm cancelling my Mars trip.


From the comment section.


ETA: It's not all bad. Pommy (Vernon) can put "Successfully trolled Elon Musk" on his C.V.. Everyone will be, like, "yeah, I remember that! Good job, dude!"

Last edited by Elagabalus; 16th July 2018 at 04:41 PM.
Elagabalus is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 04:49 PM   #555
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
 
Craig4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State.
Posts: 18,985
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
Maybe it's a cultural northern hemisphere thing to verbally attack and seriously belittle another man who had nothing to prove but a willingness to bring resources to the international effort.
Maybe not, maybe it was just that one diver.

Stick it where it hurts is as unambiguous as pedo if you like, they have both besmirched the mood of the rescue.
No, only Musk did. The diver get's a pass because....wait for it...wait for it...he saved the *********** children. There would be no "mood of the rescue" whatever the hell that means without the rude diver.
Craig4 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 04:57 PM   #556
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
 
Craig4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Alexandria, VA Home to the Deep State.
Posts: 18,985
Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
I'm cancelling my Mars trip.


From the comment section.


ETA: It's not all bad. Pommy (Vernon) can put "Successfully trolled Elon Musk" on his C.V.. Everyone will be, like, "yeah, I remember that! Good job, dude!"
Um...yeah. The pedo tweet was really an odd choice considering it drowned out the good news about production of the Model 3. As a car company, Tesla is failing at Step One: Make cars. Why would you distract from your success (success that has been few and far between lately) to insult one of the most respected people on the planet just now?
Craig4 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 05:29 PM   #557
theprestige
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 38,926
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
My mistake then. Lucky for the US.
We've had worse.
theprestige is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 06:15 PM   #558
Foolmewunz
Grammar Resistance Leader
TLA Dictator
 
Foolmewunz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pattaya, Thailand
Posts: 41,468
Originally Posted by Samson View Post
Maybe it's a cultural northern hemisphere thing to verbally attack and seriously belittle another man who had nothing to prove but a willingness to bring resources to the international effort.
Maybe not, maybe it was just that one diver.

Stick it where it hurts is as unambiguous as pedo if you like, they have both besmirched the mood of the rescue.
You're a Kiwi, right? You know Australians? And you think "in-your-face" is a northern hemisphere thing?

Puh-lease! Take your hero worship elsewhere.


And I think we should take the Elon Musk challenge. He says his sub will get all the way through the five chambers. Let's put him in it and have a go. The caves are still there and all nicely flooded. The tee intersection with the space his sub cannot maneuver through is still there. Let's strap Elon in and show the world.
__________________
Ha! Foolmewunz has just been added to the list of people who aren't complete idiots. Hokulele

It's not that liberals have become less tolerant. It's that conservatives have become more intolerable.
Foolmewunz is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 06:25 PM   #559
William Parcher
Show me the monkey!
 
William Parcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 23,353
Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Let's put him in it and have a go.
He might not fit in it if it was built for Thai kids.
__________________
Bigfoot believers and Bigfoot skeptics are both plumb crazy. Each spends more than one minute per year thinking about Bigfoot.
William Parcher is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 16th July 2018, 06:25 PM   #560
Steve
Philosopher
 
Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,769
Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
We've had worse.
Did you mean to say "we have worse"?
__________________
Caption from and old New Yorker cartoon - Why am I shouting? Because I'm wrong!"
Steve is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Reply

International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » Social Issues & Current Events

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:24 AM.
Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum began as part of the James Randi Education Foundation (JREF). However, the forum now exists as
an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics.

Disclaimer: Messages posted in the Forum are solely the opinion of their authors.