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Old 8th August 2018, 10:07 AM   #1
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Wearing Speedos while white.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/gay-...221043136.html

Or being gay, however you want to view it.

"However, on Encore’s website, the dress code states: “Dress to impress, no baggy clothing, jeans, or basketball shorts. Pool attire is required to enter the venue.” The only listed “proper swim attire” are swimming suits, which Donohoe was wearing."

Homophobia? Speedophobia?
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Old 8th August 2018, 10:22 AM   #2
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Those Mr. Turk swim briefs seem to be more skimpy than the classic Speedo. They cost $100, FWIW.
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Old 8th August 2018, 10:23 AM   #3
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Speedos should be outlawed generally; or, barring that, banned by common consent. This is a rare case in which the United States has been more progressive; although I've recently read that European countries are slowly coming to their senses on this issue as well.
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It's not just homophobes, lots of idiots have a deep fear of the male body, even when they themselves are male. Shallow psychology chalks it up to repressed homosexuality or self-esteem body issues, but I believe it stems from sublimated guilt over an overwhelming thirst for cock.

If you weren't interested in other men's bodies you would be uninterested, not disgusted. Disgust, or pretense at disgust, is as foolish as it is screamingly, sequin-studdedly gay.
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Speedos are excellent, and should be encouraged. If women can wear practically nothing then so should men.
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I'm with TM and Diablo on this. I'm of an age and physique which would make the wearing of a Speedo or similar suit a poor fashion choice unless engaged in a swimming race, but what business is it of anyone's really?
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Old 8th August 2018, 10:55 AM   #7
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.... although I've recently read that European countries are slowly coming to their senses on this issue as well.
I've been to several beaches in Germany, both on the North Sea and on the Baltic Coast. You might be right - hardly anyone wore Speedos.

Or anything else.

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Old 8th August 2018, 10:59 AM   #8
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I have no problem with this guy in that swimsuit. I couldn't pull it off, but kudos to him for looking that good in it. I would hazard a bit that it was more covering than some of the bottoms worn by women in that pool.

Odd that their online policy was vague but they claim there was a "no speedo" sign at the entrance to the pool.
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I've been to several beaches in Germany, both on the North Sea and on the Baltic Coast. You might be right - hardly anyone were Speedos.

Or anything else.
Even nothing at all is a better fashion choice than a speedo.
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Even nothing at all is a better fashion choice than a speedo.
Take a diving class, not SCUBA, springboard, platform etc. I believe the speedo was created for just such a purpose i.e. so we didn't have to see anyone's naughty-bits.
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I'm just shocked that a Vegas resort casino has a problem with Speedos, given the stuff I've seen women wear poolside. Vegas is really changing . . .
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If ya got it, flaunt it. At nude beaches, speedos are generally more accepted than board shorts, as you seem less of a tourist and one step closer to being free.
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys View Post
If ya got it, flaunt it. At nude beaches, speedos are generally more accepted than board shorts, as you seem less of a tourist and one step closer to being free.
Just be careful of stepping on a land mine ...
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Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
Take a diving class, not SCUBA, springboard, platform etc. I believe the speedo was created for just such a purpose i.e. so we didn't have to see anyone's naughty-bits.
I approve of confining speedos to diving classes and related athletic events, in the spirit of compromise.
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Old 8th August 2018, 12:13 PM   #16
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I wonder if a swish walk compelled the complaint.
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Old 8th August 2018, 12:25 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
It's not just homophobes, lots of idiots have a deep fear of the male body, even when they themselves are male. Shallow psychology chalks it up to repressed homosexuality or self-esteem body issues, but I believe it stems from sublimated guilt over an overwhelming thirst for cock.

If you weren't interested in other men's bodies you would be uninterested, not disgusted. Disgust, or pretense at disgust, is as foolish as it is screamingly, sequin-studdedly gay.
Word. If nothing else, anyplace where a bikini would be acceptable attire for a woman should have zero problem with even the smallest male brief assuming all the dangly bits are contained.
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Old 8th August 2018, 12:39 PM   #18
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It seems that security is a non-judgemental neutral party who enforces customer complaints.

Originally Posted by Yahoo News
Within 10 minutes, I was removed from the pool. It later came out that the security guard told us, ‘I don’t give a **** what you wear, but we had a complaint.’”

If this is really their policy then they could get a complaint about a particular female bikini and then ask that woman to change or leave.

As if, virtually any swimwear is allowable until someone complains.
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If bikinis are the price to pay for relegating speedos to the (literally) scrap heap of history, so be it. You may proceed.
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From the video, he certainly doesn't seem gay.
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Sign says no speedos

Dude wears speedos

Asked to change without any mention of it being gay

Dude says it's because they think it looks gay

Post video and goes on about how persecuted he is

Place caves for who knows what reason

Another slow news day in the US
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
Sign says no speedos

Dude wears speedos

Asked to change without any mention of it being gay

Dude says it's because they think it looks gay

Post video and goes on about how persecuted he is

Place caves for who knows what reason

Another slow news day in the US
Failed on the first line. The sign didn't say "no speedos".

Another slow reading comprehension day in the NZ.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Failed on the first line. The sign didn't say "no speedos".

Another slow reading comprehension day in the NZ.
He's probably thinking about that hotel in NZ that doesn't allow men in spandex cycling shorts.
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Lest anyone think I'm defending Wynn here; I think from the way the initial objection was explained to him; viz:

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not ‘in integrity’ with the brand of the pool party.
...is highly questionable. I don't know if I myself would leap immediately to "an accusation of gay", because I don't believe speedos are associated with gay men particularly; but as a gay person, he would certainly be a better authority on recognizing a homophobic euphemism or tone than I am.

Either way, the additional anecdote (with video) by Mr. Casado, showing him being forcefully kicked off a pole-dance platform in the middle of the pool by a security guard for absolutely no other reason than being male, demonstrates to my satisfaction the place has a problem specifically with males exhibiting what they may consider to be "unmasculine" behavior.

It was of course wrong of Mr. Donohoe to wear the speedo, but only insofar as it is wrong for anyone, anywhere, including in times past, to wear speedos. The Wynn's kicking him out for it was BS.
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Either way, the additional anecdote (with video) by Mr. Casado, showing him being forcefully kicked off a pole-dance platform in the middle of the pool by a security guard for absolutely no other reason than being male, demonstrates to my satisfaction the place has a problem specifically with males exhibiting what they may consider to be "unmasculine" behavior.
It's what would currently be called "bro" culture. When I was a youngster it was "macho."
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Failed on the first line. The sign didn't say "no speedos".

Another slow reading comprehension day in the NZ.
The website might not but the actual sign

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Michael Weaver, chief marketing manager of Wynn Resorts, provided the following statement to Yahoo Lifestyle: “In order to maintain a five-star experience, Wynn Las Vegas requests that guests adhere to certain dress code policies throughout the resort. In the Encore Beach Club, we had a policy, clearly posted at the entrance, which prohibited Speedos. Upon receiving a guest complaint, we reviewed the policy and have changed it. The new policy will allow Speedos,
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Speedos should be outlawed generally; or, barring that, banned by common consent. This is a rare case in which the United States has been more progressive; although I've recently read that European countries are slowly coming to their senses on this issue as well.
First they came for Speedos but I did not complain because I didn't wear Speedos...

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First, the guy says :

"As far as I understand the policy is no speedos, but 'this' is not a speedo so I don't actually understand why I'm being removed."
Does he really think they meant the brand? Not only is he wearing one but he seems to have it tucked in to maximize the 'view' so to speak.

Secondly, this isn't your normal hotel pool lounge area, it's a dayclub where artists and DJ's hold big concerts. Basically, an adult nightclub in the daytime- complete with a big entrance fee. There is a dress code.(eta: which seems to have changed now to allow speedos)

He either didn't know, or he planned to use the not-technically-a-speedo excuse.

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Originally Posted by RolandRat View Post
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/gay-...221043136.html

Or being gay, however you want to view it.

"However, on Encore’s website, the dress code states: “Dress to impress, no baggy clothing, jeans, or basketball shorts. Pool attire is required to enter the venue.” The only listed “proper swim attire” are swimming suits, which Donohoe was wearing."

Homophobia? Speedophobia?
There’s no swimwear that would allow me to impress while wearing it.
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Luckily for everyone, my choice of actual Speedo-branded products are swim-shorts. They hide a multitude of sins (or, in my case, pies).
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Look, I'm not racist or homophobic anything but people who wear speedos should be put in camps.
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Look, I'm not racist or homophobic anything but people who wear speedos should be put in camps.
Why?
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Look, I'm not racist or homophobic anything but people who wear speedos should be put in camps.
We could start calling them 'speedophiles'...
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Why?
So they can pair off with one another, bitch about each other and generally look attractive but vacuous. All it needs then is a set of TV cameras and an edit suite.

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I think the Crims call them 'budgie smugglers'.
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Look, I'm not racist or homophobic anything but people who wear speedos should be put in camps.
See? SEE? First speedos, then come the camps. What next? Do we execute fat people for wearing hot pants? And how about wearing sandals with socks? Water-boarding then electrocution?


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I've often thought about wearing a Speedo to the pool but doubt I could pull it off.
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