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Old 9th August 2018, 09:05 AM   #1
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Chicago: Walking home from a date while white gonna get more dangerous this weekend

A man and woman were knocked down and robbed by two armed suspects Wednesday morning in the Bucktown neighborhood, Chicago police said.

A 25-year-old woman and 31-year-old man were walking hand-in-hand on the sidewalk in the 2000-block of West Charleston Street at about 3:15 a.m., police said.

https://abc7chicago.com/2-knocked-do...town-/3909040/
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Old 9th August 2018, 09:07 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
And?
Did you read, the article, did you watch the video, did you see the gun?

Chicago is talking about taking cops out of this neighborhood this weekend, because the gangs are shooting up the South and west sides.
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Did you read, the article, did you watch the video, did you see the gun?

Chicago is talking about taking cops out of this neighborhood this weekend, because the gangs are shooting up the South and west sides.
So, is this a gun control thread or a police need better management thread?

I can get behind either I just don't want to be off topic.
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
And?


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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
So, is this a gun control thread or a police need better management thread?

I can get behind either I just don't want to be off topic.
Seconded. What are we discussing here?
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Seconded. What are we discussing here?
Poor choice of thread title.

How about this?

Gangs take over Chicago! Police Cower in Fear!
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
So, is this a gun control thread or a police need better management thread?

I can get behind either I just don't want to be off topic.
It is a walking home from a date while white thread, silly.

I suppose it could be a Chicago crime is out of control thread.

/curious that all the other blank while blank threads don't cause the members to be virtually paralyzed with confusion. Curious indeed.
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Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
Poor choice of thread title.

How about this?

Gangs take over Chicago! Police Cower in Fear!
Not sure where the police cower in fear came from.

Mostly the residents.

Like this couple that were strong armed robbed and pistol whipped.

is the video not working?
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
It is a walking home from a date while white thread, silly.

I suppose it could be a Chicago crime is out of control thread.

/curious that all the other blank while blank threads don't cause the members to be virtually paralyzed with confusion. Curious indeed.
The other "X while Y" threads are about people being attacked because they're "Y". Can you show racial motivation for this robbery?
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The other "X while Y" threads are about people being attacked because they're "Y". Can you show racial motivation for this robbery?
"Attacked." I took a gander at those other threads, and using the word 'attacked" is a wee bit strong, no?

These people were attacked and one was pistol whipped.
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Not sure where the police cower in fear came from.

Mostly the residents.

Like this couple that were strong armed robbed and pistol whipped.

is the video not working?
Ah, I see. The police are leaving the neighborhood to attend to other more needy neighborhoods?
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Ah, I see. The police are leaving the neighborhood to attend to other more needy neighborhoods?
"more needy"? Looks a bit like this neighborhood is pretty needy no? And now the cops needed there will be pulled from there.

/by the way, my good friends used to own the building shown in the part of the video where the scumbags are hiding in the alley
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Pulling them from here too:

http://www.cwbchicago.com/2018/08/tw...orth-side.html

Good topic, Chicago pulling cops from other neighborhoods to deal with out of control gang war made worse because victims and witnesses won't cooperate.
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
"Attacked." I took a gander at those other threads, and using the word 'attacked" is a wee bit strong, no?

These people were attacked and one was pistol whipped.
No, I don't think it's a wee bit strong. Lots of things other than physical violence can be considered attacks.
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"Attacked." I took a gander at those other threads, and using the word 'attacked" is a wee bit strong, no?

These people were attacked and one was pistol whipped.
Because they were white?
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No, I don't think it's a wee bit strong. Lots of things other than physical violence can be considered attacks.
Sure thing. Lets start a chart: the attacked chart!

Lets say 1 is having someone call the cops on you and because you are trespassing and they erroneously think you are black.

100 is getting pistol whipped on the street.
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Pulling them from here too:

http://www.cwbchicago.com/2018/08/tw...orth-side.html

Good topic, Chicago pulling cops from other neighborhoods to deal with out of control gang war made worse because victims and witnesses won't cooperate.
So, is that the topic of the thread, then?
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So, is that the topic of the thread, then?
I just create them, I ain't gonna claim to be the thread police.

If y'all want to critique the pistol whipping style of the folks in the video, that seems like fair game.
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I just create them, I ain't gonna claim to be the thread police.

If y'all want to critique the pistol whipping style of the folks in the video, that seems like fair game.
It just seems that most threads make it pretty obvious what the topic is. Not all, certainly. Here, you seem to be resistant to clarifying what you would like to discuss about the video.

Do you want to discuss whether they were attacked because of their race?

Do you want to discuss whether they were attacked because the police are focused elsewhere?

Do you want to discuss whether there should be better gun control in the state so local controls aren't so easy to get around?

Do you want to discuss whether pistols should be outlawed?

Do you want to discuss employment options outside of the Chicago area?

Do you want to discuss how much this video will decrease the value of your friend's real estate investments?
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It just seems that most threads make it pretty obvious what the topic is. Not all, certainly. Here, you seem to be resistant to clarifying what you would like to discuss about the video.

Do you want to discuss whether they were attacked because of their race?

Do you want to discuss whether they were attacked because the police are focused elsewhere?

Do you want to discuss whether there should be better gun control in the state so local controls aren't so easy to get around?

Do you want to discuss whether pistols should be outlawed?

Do you want to discuss employment options outside of the Chicago area?

Do you want to discuss how much this video will decrease the value of your friend's real estate investments?
well I was hoping we could discuss the video in the OP. seems pretty straightforward. The article also mentions the community's concerns about crime;

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"Citizens need to ask 'Why? What's causing all this? Why do the criminals feel like they can get away with this?' It's almost like a kid who goes unpunished," said Gene Pierson, Bucktown Neighborhood Watch.

Pierson said the solution is not more police but tougher penalties for criminals.

"We can't have a police officer on every corner, in every alley. A message needs to be sent these criminals that you're going to be prosecuted and we're going to prosecute you to the fullest extent possible," he said.
We can also talk about this real attack compared to the wildly hysterical overreactions in other cases.

Read the article and lets us know your thoughts and we will go from there.
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well I was hoping we could discuss the video in the OP. seems pretty straightforward. The article also mentions the community's concerns about crime;



We can also talk about this real attack compared to the wildly hysterical overreactions in other cases.

Read the article and lets us know your thoughts and we will go from there.
Crime like this is horrible. I hope the attacker is apprehended and prosecuted.

I expect few will disagree.

Interesting topic.
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Thread titles are very important. You want to "catch" the reader's eyes with your clever turn of phrase.

From your link:

Man who jumped out of freezer and died was cold-case suspect

https://abc7chicago.com/man-who-jump...spect/3896174/

With a title like that, I just HAD to click on it!
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Did the robbers use the H word when they robbed the white couple?
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Well, I for one would like to demand that police immediately investigate this crime!


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While the video does not show the robbery itself, a police department spokesperson said investigators are reviewing the video to definitively link it to the robbery.

.... Area North detectives were investigating.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/08...hows-suspects/


Goddamn it, seems I wasted today's allotment of outrage!

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Did the robbers use the H word when they robbed the white couple?
I will try to make a special trip to The Charleston tonight to get the inside scoop.

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I will try to make a special trip to The Charleston tonight to get the inside scoop.

Dude, be careful. I really don't want to see you in some grainy security video on the news.
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Did you read, the article, did you watch the video, did you see the gun?

Chicago is talking about taking cops out of this neighborhood this weekend, because the gangs are shooting up the South and west sides.
One was hoping you would at suggest what interested you in the story, you know so we could perhaps discuss it?
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One was hoping you would at suggest what interested you in the story, you know so we could perhaps discuss it?
well what really interested me was that I used to hang out in that building shown in the video all the time, but I don't think people really wanted to discuss that.

It also got me to thinking about the hysterical overreactions where community members got their feels hurt.

and it got me thinking that they are going to be pulling the 5-0 out of that neighborhood.

Lots of thinks
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well what really interested me was that I used to hang out in that building shown in the video all the time, but I don't think people really wanted to discuss that.
That sounds refreshing. I'd love to discuss that.

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It also got me to thinking about the hysterical overreactions where community members got their feels hurt.
I'm not sure why a video of someone getting mugged would make you think about that. I'm a bit uneasy discussing that, but others may have an interest.

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and it got me thinking that they are going to be pulling the 5-0 out of that neighborhood.
That does seem like a thing that needs discussing. How you suggest they deal with the spike of crime in other areas without abandoning the rest of the city?

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Lots of thinks
We may even get a discussion started before page two. <<fingers crossed>>
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well I was hoping we could discuss the video in the OP. seems pretty straightforward.
Okay.

I'm against people getting robbed and pistol-whipped. Regardless of ethnicity.
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Okay.

I'm against people getting robbed and pistol-whipped. Regardless of ethnicity.
Even if it is our police doing it? Then it is good right?
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Even if it is our police doing it? Then it is good right?
Now that is an interesting related point!

We have been getting videos of the Chicago gangbangers and their guns going pop pop pop, and the people in the hiphop and hiphop adjacent community are suggesting that the ones doing it are the Police!

Not kidding.

You show this video to a certain segment of the community, and they are going to tell you the divvy guy is working for the MAN.

interesting
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With all the guns, gangs and crime in Chicago seems moving away would be a sensible and reasonable thing to do.
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With all the guns, gangs and crime in Chicago seems moving away would be a sensible and reasonable thing to do.
Yeah, but I bet he rarely has to deal with an unwashed hippy in hemp rags and berkenstocks reeking of pachouli and pot vaping outside the grocery store.

So maybe the shootings aren't that bad.


(I may be moving down to your area and the last thing I need is to compete with more Chicago buyers in your real estate market.)
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Yeah, but I bet he rarely has to deal with an unwashed hippy in hemp rags and berkenstocks reeking of pachouli and pot vaping outside the grocery store.

So maybe the shootings aren't that bad.


(I may be moving down to your area and the last thing I need is to compete with more Chicago buyers in your real estate market.)
Lollpalooza was last week
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Lollpalooza was last week
Damn, you have to put up with the gang bangers and the hippies.

Well, at least the weather is mild.
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East Chicago is a violent city. What's new?

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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Chicago is talking about taking cops out of this neighborhood this weekend, because the gangs are shooting up the South and west sides.
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Gangs take over Chicago! Police Cower in Fear!
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Not sure where the police cower in fear came from.
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Ah, I see. The police are leaving the neighborhood to attend to other more needy neighborhoods?
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"more needy"? Looks a bit like this neighborhood is pretty needy no? And now the cops needed there will be pulled from there.
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Pulling them from here too:

http://www.cwbchicago.com/2018/08/tw...orth-side.html

Good topic, Chicago pulling cops from other neighborhoods to deal with out of control gang war made worse because victims and witnesses won't cooperate.
Are the police afraid and running away or are they concentrating on higher areas of violence?
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East Chicago is a violent city. What's new?
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