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View Poll Results: How long will UK Prime Minister Theresa May Last?
She'll last a month at most 8 18.60%
She won't last out the week 3 6.98%
She'll last for two weeks 2 4.65%
She'll last until the next Tory Conference in October 2017 19 44.19%
She'll last until the next General Election 7 16.28%
She'll ride out the storm and serve the full term 2 4.65%
Who cares <shrug>? 2 4.65%
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Old 26th June 2017, 06:30 AM   #161
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Old 26th June 2017, 06:31 AM   #162
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Originally Posted by toto View Post
I think my sentence was equally correct, reflecting a bit of what yours didn't, that it is a personal highlight of The Queen's year, which she wouldn't want to miss; albeit rather colloquially expressed.
As the saying goes wild horses wouldn't have been able to keep away.
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Old 26th June 2017, 07:04 AM   #163
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Hmm. Not quite sure how this doesn't simply equate to 'bribe'.
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Old 26th June 2017, 07:14 AM   #164
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Because reasons.

And since Scotland and Wales won't be recieving addtional funds, it's going to be fun watching the Scottish and Welsh conservative leaders explain why that is so.
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Old 26th June 2017, 07:27 AM   #165
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Originally Posted by KDLarsen View Post
And since Scotland and Wales won't be recieving addtional funds, it's going to be fun watching the Scottish and Welsh conservative leaders explain why that is so.
Especially the Scottish, since they've just effectively ressurected their Conservative Party, and may now be starting to wonder why they bothered.

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Old 26th June 2017, 08:18 AM   #166
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Originally Posted by KDLarsen View Post
Because reasons.

And since Scotland and Wales won't be recieving addtional funds, it's going to be fun watching the Scottish and Welsh conservative leaders explain why that is so.
It'll be more complicated than that.

Allocations use the Barnett formula which at the moment favours Scotland and disbenefits Wales (by c1%), with NE England doing worst in funding compared with relative poverty.

Any complaints from Scotland will be met with "yes, we'll revise the funding formula".
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Old 26th June 2017, 08:28 AM   #167
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Labour MP's are having a field day, enquiring if the Tories might have found that magic money tree they kept talking about during the campaign.
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I see that Archie Gemmil Goal beat me to the ABC news "Theresa May and the Holy Grail" link.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-2...-grail/8649836



Well worth a watch

Meanwhile,
Daily Mash's take on this
DUP gets 1bn for murals of fat Protestant men in bowler hats
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Old 26th June 2017, 09:43 AM   #169
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It'll be more complicated than that.

Allocations use the Barnett formula which at the moment favours Scotland and disbenefits Wales (by c1%), with NE England doing worst in funding compared with relative poverty.

Any complaints from Scotland will be met with "yes, we'll revise the funding formula".
Since they have deliberately done the deal to avoid Barnett I doubt they will. Funnily enough they've done exactly what Mundell said they wouldn't do. Back-door funding for N. Ireland to buy the DUP vote without any equivalent funding for the other nations.

The Conservative and Unionist Party couldn't be doing more to destroy the Union they apparently hold so dear.
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Old 26th June 2017, 01:56 PM   #170
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Originally Posted by Aber View Post
It'll be more complicated than that.

Allocations use the Barnett formula which at the moment favours Scotland and disbenefits Wales (by c1%), with NE England doing worst in funding compared with relative poverty.

Any complaints from Scotland will be met with "yes, we'll revise the funding formula".
I assume the was because you realize what a stupid idea that would be. may has a working majority of 3, there are 13 Scottish Conservative MPs, even May isn't idiot enough to antagonize them. She's made a rod for her own back with this deal, a handful of Tory backbenchers with a pet agenda can hold her to ransom, and this deal proves she can be blackmailed.
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Hmm. Not quite sure how this doesn't simply equate to 'bribe'.
Most of the time "Pork" is pretty much bribery...although this is really a blatent case.
I am betting there is going to quite a bit of pushback within the Tory party over this one.......

I thought US politicians were really good at dishing out the Pork, but his makes most of them look like amateurs.
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Old 26th June 2017, 02:36 PM   #172
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Originally Posted by Garrison View Post
I assume the was because you realize what a stupid idea that would be. may has a working majority of 3, there are 13 Scottish Conservative MPs, even May isn't idiot enough to antagonize them. She's made a rod for her own back with this deal, a handful of Tory backbenchers with a pet agenda can hold her to ransom, and this deal proves she can be blackmailed.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Most of the time "Pork" is pretty much bribery...although this is really a blatent case.
I am betting there is going to quite a bit of pushback within the Tory party over this one.......

I thought US politicians were really good at dishing out the Pork, but his makes most of them look like amateurs.
I honestly thought this was pretty amateurish, I would have expected something a little more subtle, a quiet promise that requests for special funding will receive a 'sympathetic' hearing.
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Originally Posted by Garrison View Post
I assume the was because you realize what a stupid idea that would be. may has a working majority of 3, there are 13 Scottish Conservative MPs, even May isn't idiot enough to antagonize them. She's made a rod for her own back with this deal, a handful of Tory backbenchers with a pet agenda can hold her to ransom, and this deal proves she can be blackmailed.
Seven.

There are 7 Sin Feinn MPs, and the speaker, to remove from the total number of MPs. 650-8 = 642. Therefore 321 is the magic number, and the government has 328 votes to (theoretically) count on (at least for Supply, Confidence, and Brexit votes). Your point stands, though, despite the maths error.
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Originally Posted by Archie Gemmill Goal View Post
The Conservative and Unionist Party couldn't be doing more to destroy the Union they apparently hold so dear.
What I want to know is how they're going to get the Hard Brexit with Soft Border that their DUP allies are clamouring for.
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If this keeps up, maybe Theresa May will be the one with the slogan "Ourselves Alone"........
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What I want to know is how they're going to get the Hard Brexit with Soft Border that their DUP allies are clamouring for.
That's easy.

A united Ireland whilst the rest of the UK has a hard Brexit.

Probably not what the DUP wants.
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Weirdest narrative I'm seeing now is that the Conservatives admit they ran a terrible campaign and since Labour didn't win despite that this proves the Conservatives are winners and Corbyn is a loser. This seems to be coming mainly from the same people who predicted Labour's annihilation in the election.
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Weirdest narrative I'm seeing now is that the Conservatives admit they ran a terrible campaign and since Labour didn't win despite that this proves the Conservatives are winners and Corbyn is a loser. This seems to be coming mainly from the same people who predicted Labour's annihilation in the election.
It's getting embarrassing.
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As I posted on both twitter and fb: "London house prices are booming - Theresa May just paid 1.5bn to rent a house in Downing St for a few weeks."

In the meantime we have no effective government and an opposition that thinks it's in charge but has no mandate. Basically, the country is up **** creek without a paddle.
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I assume the was because you realize what a stupid idea that would be. may has a working majority of 3, there are 13 Scottish Conservative MPs, even May isn't idiot enough to antagonize them. She's made a rod for her own back with this deal, a handful of Tory backbenchers with a pet agenda can hold her to ransom, and this deal proves she can be blackmailed.
That assumes the Scottish Conservatives represent the people of Scotland to the Conservative Party and not vice versa. At the moment that remains an unproven assumption at best.

So far Davidson and Mundell are proving to be compliant little puppets.
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.....In the meantime we have no effective government and an opposition that thinks it's in charge but has no mandate. Basically, the country is up **** creek without a paddle.
We're Brits. We'll muddle through somehow,
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