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Old 12th August 2017, 04:58 PM   #121
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Originally Posted by caveman1917 View Post
Yeah they just "happen" to wear a uniform. Luckily that uniform allows us to know these people to belong to a particular armed gang of mercenaries who are sworn to, and paid to, violently enforce the capitalist order. Other than untold numbers of specific crimes, on a larger "social engineering" scale this gang makes about 300.000 victims a year in the US.



Oh please.
Awwww...is the little anarchist mad he can't burn things and throw rocks with impunity...so sad.
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Old 12th August 2017, 04:59 PM   #122
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Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner View Post
4chan, Free Republic and the usual Conservisphere websites/blogs/forums doxxed the wrong guy it seems. (Joel VanGheluwe)

The actual identity of the suspect hasn't been released yet.
In a way it has, in the form of a license plate and other information.
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Old 12th August 2017, 05:09 PM   #123
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Originally Posted by caveman1917 View Post
In a way it has, in the form of a license plate and other information.

I'm not going on a hunt through the denser parts of the web, so do you mean something other than that FB link you posted earlier?

The irresponsible doxxing of a suspect's home address.

The one with a different first name?
And BTW... that one has a VIN #, not a license plate.
(who the **** in the civilian public cares about a suspect vehicle's VIN #? )
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I want to make sure I've got this correct.
  • Statue of Robert E. Lee (I think it was his visage) was going to be taken down.
  • Alt-Right upset about this.
  • Alt-Right protests about this.
  • Other people (Horrible "liberals" or just rationale people wanting to promote love and peace and all)
  • Skirmishes happen.
  • Alt-Right person drives car into the anit-fas protesters.
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Old 12th August 2017, 05:16 PM   #125
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Seems to sum it up nicely.
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Old 12th August 2017, 05:23 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
Seems to sum it up nicely.

I don't know... all the typos are giving me a twitch.


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Originally Posted by UnrepentantSinner View Post
4chan, Free Republic and the usual Conservisphere websites/blogs/forums doxxed the wrong guy it seems. (Joel VanGheluwe)

The actual identity of the suspect hasn't been released yet.
The guy caveman1917 linked to apparently sold the vehicle two years ago. I feel some lawsuits are forthcoming.
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Old 12th August 2017, 05:24 PM   #128
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I can't seem to find one but is there/are there memorials to the victims of slavery. Here in the South we seem to have plenty of memorials to the criminals but I can't recall ever seeing a memorial to the victims of the crime. Prof. Google says there's a proposal for one and I suspect there might be one in the New African American History Museum on the National Mall (though it may be some years before you can get in without advanced tickets). It seems odd that there were millions of people held against their will, rapped, assaulted and sometimes murdered but no bronze statues memorializing them. However, in the South, you can't swing a dead Klansman without hitting a statue dedicated to someone who committed treason to keep people enslaved.
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Old 12th August 2017, 05:26 PM   #129
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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
I don't know... all the typos are giving me a twitch.


It's an emotional time; people may be typing with their fists.
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Old 12th August 2017, 05:34 PM   #130
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What's up with this car ramming thing? I read the car slammed a stopped car that then slammed another vehicle. Then the person in the car went in reverse and hit some people.

Do we know if this was deliberate? Seems like it, but do we know anything?

The Governor is telling the white nat's to "go home, you are not wanted here". Do we know how all this violence started? CNN has the word "terror" in their top headline right now. Seems a little premature, at best.

Is the governor right to admonish these people, basically throwing them out, if we don't know who actually started the violence?

Or do we know? I'm not defending anybody, these are honest questions. I can't find information on who started what, but I'm seeing a lot of it thrown around. And it hurts me right now (tendonitis and more) to use the computer too much, so my searching is limited. Typing this hurt.

ETA: I'm starting to use voice to control my computer a bit

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Old 12th August 2017, 05:41 PM   #131
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I think the media will get behind and back antifa and it'll back fire horribly....
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Old 12th August 2017, 05:55 PM   #132
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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
I'm not going on a hunt through the denser parts of the web, so do you mean something other than that FB link you posted earlier?

The irresponsible doxxing of a suspect's home address.

The one with a different first name?
And BTW... that one has a VIN #, not a license plate.
(who the **** in the civilian public cares about a suspect vehicle's VIN #? )
Sounds like the wrong guy used to own the car and sold it [x] years ago. Sucks for that guy.

Suspect IDed now as James Alex Fields Jr (probably ninja'd above) and he's from Ohio. So out of towners are indeed part of this nonsense.

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The car is registered to 20-year-old James Alex Fields of Ohio, according to vehicle registration records reviewed by The Washington Post. Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail Superintendent Martin Kumer told The Post that a man with the same name and age was booked Saturday on suspicion of second-degree murder, malicious wounding, failure to stop for an accident involving a death, and hit and run. Kumer said Fields is being held without bail.

Records show Fields last lived in Maumee, Ohio, about 15 miles southwest of Toledo.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.019b9afbd84b
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Old 12th August 2017, 05:59 PM   #134
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What's up with this car ramming thing? I read the car slammed a stopped car that then slammed another vehicle. Then the person in the car went in reverse and hit some people.

Do we know if this was deliberate? ...
Yes. Many witnesses and videos. Driver waited, peeled out ramming people and 2 cars stopped at the intersection waiting for the marchers to pass, then jammed it in reverse and hit more people on the way out.

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Do we know how all this violence started?
Yes, they came (at least some from out of town) armed with clubs and shields, to protest the removal of the Gen Lee statue. Some were also brandishing open carry guns.

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2 officers also killed
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I think the media will get behind and back antifa and it'll back fire horribly....
Because?
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The car is registered to 20-year-old James Alex Fields of Ohio, according to vehicle registration records reviewed by The Washington Post. Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail Superintendent Martin Kumer told The Post that a man with the same name and age was booked Saturday on suspicion of second-degree murder, malicious wounding, failure to stop for an accident involving a death, and hit and run. Kumer said Fields is being held without bail.

Records show Fields last lived in Maumee, Ohio, about 15 miles southwest of Toledo.

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Ya found some info too. Thanks That and the image half way down this page is answering some of my questions. I can't express here how sick, sad and pissed off that makes me feel, and on many levels.
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Can you explain?
I probably can, yes.
Please do!
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Please do!
He won't. He's not the type to take responsibility.
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2 officers also killed
I'd seen rumors earlier that they were killed in a helicopter crash.

I see an article that says they were cops, and that the crash was linked to the rally. Another article says it is not known whether it was linked and has no timestamp. So no links here from me.
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In the video one guy says he's there for Republicans, the free market and "killing jews".
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He won't. He's not the type to take responsibility.
I know. Just rubbing it down his pimply face.
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In this video the car heads fast straight down the street and appears to miss all the people when he could have gone up the sidewalk and hit plenty, and then slams straight into the car. Maybe the pedestrians saw him coming and moved, or maybe he hit people further up ahead before hitting the other car. Just wondering if hitting people was his initial motivation.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...812-story.html

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Matt Korbon, a 22-year-old University of Virginia student, said several hundred counter-protesters were marching when "suddenly there was just this tire screeching sound." A silver Dodge Challenger smashed into another car, then backed up, barreling through "a sea of people."
This is an image of the car that was rammed by the arrested driver. I saw this earlier and thought it was the driver's car. The other photo had a better angle.

https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress...?w=4928&h=3280

The license plate of this car says GODKP*E (where * = I don't know). I thought this was the driver's car earlier and assumed it was a nationalist because of the god reference (so sue me), so now I wonder if it still has anything to do with it. Maybe the car was the target, then he ran over the people while fleeing?

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Shortly after, a Virginia State Police helicopter that officials said was assisting with the rally crashed outside Charlottesville, killing the pilot and a trooper.
Same link as above.

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Old 12th August 2017, 06:35 PM   #144
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...Yes, they came (at least some from out of town) armed with clubs and shields, to protest the removal of the Gen Lee statue. Some were also brandishing open carry guns.
TBF, they probably felt they needed all the gear after last year's ass-kicking they received from Antifa and BAMN in Sacramento.

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No it isn't.
Assuming you care about democracy, yes it is. Course, that's if.

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Wow, and people accuse me of splitting hairs.
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Celebrating the death of two policemen in a helicopter is really beyond the pale, Caveman.
Someone's gotta logger while the logger is on vacation....
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Yeah they just "happen" to wear a uniform. Luckily that uniform allows us to know these people to belong to a particular armed gang of mercenaries who are sworn to, and paid to, violently enforce the capitalist order.
Have you ever worked in the public sector, sir?

You know that what you wrote there is just a rhetorical trick to make policemen appear far worse than they really are. It's easy to do. Tell me what your field is and I'll do the same.
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He can't afford to alienate the Nazi vote at this point.
Or the Nazis in his administration.
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I want to blame, and THANK, Obama. He started a race war, but the white man has regained consciousness in the process, and decided to take back his country.
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I want to blame, and THANK, Obama. He started a race war, but the white man has regained consciousness in the process, and decided to take back his country.
It isn't white people's country.
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White supremacists show up to an event looking for a fight... then proceed to play victim when violence happens.
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White supremacists show up to an event looking for a fight... then proceed to play victim when violence happens.
Even if you go looking for violence, you are still the victim if you are the victim of it.
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@GovernorVA Refuses to condemn antifa as well as neo Nazi...And there lays the problem. Rather than stopping an illegal "anti-protest" they let them turn up for trouble.

Why was the anti-protest illegal?

When the city told the Nazis they had to change the venue because the size of the expected crowd had grown so much the Mayor said this.
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In an earlier statement, Charlottesville Mayor Mike Signer said city leaders support moving the event to McIntire Park "because of the ballooning size of the event's attendance."
"Just as the 'Unite the Right' participants have the right to air their views, so do those who want to protest against those views," he said. "Democracy can be noisy, and it can be messy."
If the mayor didn't think it was illegal for them to be there, why do you?
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Even if you go looking for violence, you are still the victim if you are the victim of it.
Duh!
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Trump is RIGHT! Both sides are cancer, the difference is just in the details!

Yeah, it's difference between benign and malignant tumors.
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I'd like to take a moment to share this hilarious photographic record of Richard Spencer being arrested at today's event:

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Yeah, it's difference between benign and malignant tumors.
Right! Which "kind" of cancer is good? The really bad kind or just plain old everyday caner....
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I'd like to take a moment to share this hilarious photographic record of Richard Spencer being arrested at today's event:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHC8xr_WAAMm3bz.jpg

Twitter doesn't seem to like hotlinking (no image is shown), so I just turned it into a link.
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Originally Posted by sonofthor View Post
Right! Which "kind" of cancer is good? The really bad kind or just plain old everyday caner....

That's the wrong question.
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