Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

[angrysoba]

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

The 16-year old says the age of consent should be raised, but I see your point too, however, what was this all about?

Yeah, I don’t know. Tropically horrible and on Brand, but again, I don’t know if there is evidence that he has had sex with anyone under 16.

Again, I hate Brand and always have, but I also don’t think we should let that give us license to just assume or allege he is a child predator.

[Orphia Nay]

Originally Posted by angrysoba

Yeah, I don’t know. Tropically horrible and on Brand, but again, I don’t know if there is evidence that he has had sex with anyone under 16.

Again, I hate Brand and always have, but I also don’t think we should let that give us license to just assume or allege he is a child predator.

I agree, and am not alleging anything, just saying I think he's creepy.

Or even that I think he was creepy, he allegedly has changed his ways since those days.

[angrysoba]

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

I agree, and am not alleging anything, just saying I think he's creepy.

Or even that I think he was creepy, he allegedly has changed his ways since those days.

To give Russell Brand the benefit of the doubt, he is a scummy and creepy intellectually vacuous cult-like figure (as in the description is a bit like “cult” but maybe with one letter change.)

That’s giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Though he could of course be far worse than my generosity allows.

[TragicMonkey]

I wonder if I'd be more willing to extend the charity of doubt to Brand if he were younger. He's a year older than me, and his entire public persona seems to me to be more suited to someone at least 25 years younger. Sometimes immaturity is just immaturity, and I know a showbiz career is going to encourage stagnation of character, but at some point in life if you cannot pass as a grown-up it suggests there's something wrong with you.

[angrysoba]

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

I wonder if I'd be more willing to extend the charity of doubt to Brand if he were younger. He's a year older than me, and his entire public persona seems to me to be more suited to someone at least 25 years younger. Sometimes immaturity is just immaturity, and I know a showbiz career is going to encourage stagnation of character, but at some point in life if you cannot pass as a grown-up it suggests there's something wrong with you.

No doubt Peter Hitchens is not the type of person whose views are in harmony with skeptical atheists such as ourselves but that is pretty much the exact point he made.

Hitchens is a drug prohibitionist and had a debate with Brand who was in favour of legalization, regulation and treatment, but whose approach to the whole debate was essentially mockery and abuse (which he employed again in a parliamentary committee):

Quote:

Brand, in my view, is not stupid, though he is ill-informed and very bad at arguing. He makes much use of his teeth, baring them as he jeers. His voice, if you challenge him, is very strange.

It is a sort of rising hedge-trimmer whine when he is trying to talk over you. Then it is a disturbing baby-talk simper (disturbing because it is issuing from a grown man), when he is trying to ingratiate himself either with you, the presenter or the audience.

He may be conscious of this. He once called me, without any obvious justification, a 'peculiar child', but I remember thinking the term applied much more to him.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...al-debate.html

[Puppycow]

Originally Posted by Ian Osborne

He wrote an autobiography called My Booky Wook

OK, that's actually kind of funny.

Quote:

Its title is in the style of the fictional Nadsat language from A Clockwork Orange

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Now that I think about it, he does have a sort of Clockwork Orangesque vibe.

Perhaps we shouldn't forget that the protagonist of that story was a rapist and a murderer, and just a general violent delinquent.

[angrysoba]

Originally Posted by Puppycow

OK, that's actually kind of funny.
.

Now that I think about it, he does have a sort of Clockwork Orangesque vibe.

Perhaps we shouldn't forget that the protagonist of that story was a rapist and a murderer, and just a general violent delinquent.

Somehow associating Brand with Alex's form of speaking sullies Clockwork Orange for me.

[Puppycow]

Originally Posted by angrysoba

Somehow associating Brand with Alex's form of speaking sullies Clockwork Orange for me.

When I was a teenager I thought it was the greatest movie ever, but it's just a bit of entertainment after all. I still like it as a movie but I don't think it says anything particularly important or profound about society. Which is fine. Not all art has to be "serious" or whatever. I never associated Brand with it before, but maybe he was inspired by it. Didn't he used to wear eyeliner? I remember doing that myself, only a few times, back in high school, as my own personal homage to the movie. But it's basically a sort of high-brow soft-core porn after all, isn't it?

[angrysoba]

Originally Posted by Puppycow

When I was a teenager I thought it was the greatest movie ever, but it's just a bit of entertainment after all. I still like it as a movie but I don't think it says anything particularly important or profound about society. Which is fine. Not all art has to be "serious" or whatever. I never associated Brand with it before, but maybe he was inspired by it. Didn't he used to wear eyeliner? I remember doing that myself, only a few times, back in high school, as my own personal homage to the movie. But it's basically a sort of high-brow soft-core porn after all, isn't it?

Well, of course I was thinking more of the novel by Anthony Burgess…

[Emoji of guy wearing monocle….]

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