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Old 16th June 2019, 01:10 PM   #4001
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What? Instead of addressing the question asked, you are going to cite a bible parable demonstrating that your jesus is weaker than weeds. Really?

Sure. I agree. Your jesus is indeed defeated by mere weeds. Now what?
God don't do what Bush did. What he said is that if you take off what is bad there will be collateral victimes of what is good.
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Old 16th June 2019, 01:11 PM   #4002
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
God don't do what Bush did. What he said is that if you take off what is bad there will be collateral victimes of what is good.
Are children the collateral damage from religion?
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Old 16th June 2019, 03:00 PM   #4003
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Mt 13 ESV

The Parable of the Weeds

24 He put another parable before them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field, 25 but while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds[c] among the wheat and went away. 26 So when the plants came up and bore grain, then the weeds appeared also. 27 And the servants[d] of the master of the house came and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have weeds?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ So the servants said to him, ‘Then do you want us to go and gather them?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest in gathering the weeds you root up the wheat along with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, “Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”
Gaetan, you haven't shown anything other than you are a weed among the wheat.
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Old 16th June 2019, 05:30 PM   #4004
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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
God don't do what Bush did. What he said is that if you take off what is bad there will be collateral victimes of what is good.
You mean the burning bush of the bible or WTF?
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Old 17th June 2019, 08:38 AM   #4005
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God don't do what Bush did. What he said is that if you take off what is bad there will be collateral victimes of what is good.
Ain't that enough? Why deliberately add to your "victimes" by refusing to "take off what is bad"?
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Old 18th June 2019, 03:34 AM   #4006
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Ain't that enough? Why deliberately add to your "victimes" by refusing to "take off what is bad"?
Just take Bush and Clinton, in their goal to kill Saddam of Irak they killed hundreds of thousand innocent victimes, they should be arrested and put in prison for the rest of their life, then after that they'll be in prison for their after life.
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Just take Bush and Clinton, in their goal to kill Saddam of Irak they killed hundreds of thousand innocent victimes, they should be arrested and put in prison for the rest of their life, then after that they'll be in prison for their after life.
How many pedophile priests and other religious should be locked away forever? You still have nothing negative to say about all the religious who abuse children?

Once we abolish religion, then the religious will no longer think of children who are abused as collateral damage.

You have nothing negative to say about those religious at all, huh?
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Old 18th June 2019, 07:54 AM   #4008
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Just take Bush and Clinton, in their goal to kill Saddam of Irak they killed hundreds of thousand innocent victimes, they should be arrested and put in prison for the rest of their life, then after that they'll be in prison for their after life.
What has that got to do with the question asked?


No one claimed the innocent don't suffer, even under the best intents. The question was "Why deliberately add to your "victimes" by refusing to "take off what is bad"?
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Old 18th June 2019, 10:16 AM   #4009
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Just take Bush and Clinton, in their goal to kill Saddam of Irak they killed hundreds of thousand innocent victimes, they should be arrested and put in prison for the rest of their life, then after that they'll be in prison for their after life.
What does that have to do with the fact that not having money is a bigger problem than having money?

You think Saddam was some kind of choir boy? The world is better off without him.

And not having money is a bad thing.
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Old 18th June 2019, 10:38 AM   #4010
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Just take Bush and Clinton, in their goal to kill Saddam of Irak they killed hundreds of thousand innocent victimes, they should be arrested and put in prison for the rest of their life, then after that they'll be in prison for their after life.
Superman has his Fortress of Solitude.

You have a Dungeon of Ignorance with a summer home of religious delusion.
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Old 18th June 2019, 02:18 PM   #4011
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The US government is launching computer criminality against Russia and china and they are going to do the same, definitely the end of the world will come soon. Who put Poutine, the china and US leaders on power? The money.

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Old 18th June 2019, 02:45 PM   #4012
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The US government is launching computer criminality against Russia and china and they are going to do the same, definitely the end of the world will come soon. Who put Poutine, the china and US leaders on power? The money.
So how will decisions get made in your no money world. Remember those finite resources? With or without money choices have to be made about how and where they get used. Eliminating money doesn't eliminate power, those who crave it and/or are willing do anything to get it. While money and power are often congruent, neither is strictly dependent upon nor required by the other. Once again we find that your disdain for money simply does not address your stated concern, this time being people in power.


To quote the character Ragnar Lothbrok from The History Channel's show "Vikings".

“Power is dangerous. It corrupts the best and attracts the worst. Power is only given to those who are prepared to lower themselves to pick it up.”
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Old 18th June 2019, 03:49 PM   #4013
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The US government is launching computer criminality against Russia and china and they are going to do the same, definitely the end of the world will come soon. Who put Poutine, the china and US leaders on power? The money.
The above post needs a few more words in the right places to be understandable.
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Old 18th June 2019, 03:54 PM   #4014
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So how will decisions get made in your no money world. Remember those finite resources? With or without money choices have to be made about how and where they get used. Eliminating money doesn't eliminate power, those who crave it and/or are willing do anything to get it. While money and power are often congruent, neither is strictly dependent upon nor required by the other. Once again we find that your disdain for money simply does not address your stated concern, this time being people in power.


To quote the character Ragnar Lothbrok from The History Channel's show "Vikings".

“Power is dangerous. It corrupts the best and attracts the worst. Power is only given to those who are prepared to lower themselves to pick it up.”
Rich want a criminal like Bush, Obama, Trump, Clinton or Poutine to be elected to continue to accumulate wealth, they corrupt or buy medias to have people to vote for them, what did that? Money off course. If money would be abolish how would they buy medias? There wouldn't be rich or poor.

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Old 18th June 2019, 03:57 PM   #4015
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Rich want a criminal like Bush, Obama, Trump, Clinton or Poutine to be elected to continue to accumulate wealth, they corrupt or buy medias to have people to vote for them, what did that? Money off course.
Yes, you are off course.
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Rich want a criminal like Bush, Obama, Trump, Clinton or Poutine to be elected to continue to accumulate wealth, they corrupt or buy medias to have people to vote for them, what did that? Money off course.
Eliminating money won't eliminate people in power. Money would simply be replaced by some other means of exchange. In the very old days, people who had a lot of livestock and water resources were considered wealthy.

You still have not explained how a no money system can be implemented.

You admit that you still work for money. How can anyone take you serious when you're a hypocrite?
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The US government is launching computer criminality against Russia and china and they are going to do the same, definitely the end of the world will come soon. Who put Poutine, the china and US leaders on power? The money.
Who voted Hinn, Osteen, Dollar (lol) or Copeland in charge of religious? Who told the religious it was ok to rape children and abuse them?

We must abolish religion to end religious wars. Do you have anything negative to say about religious wars, Gaetan?
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Rich want a criminal like Bush, Obama, Trump, Clinton or Poutine to be elected to continue to accumulate wealth,
Stupid want criminal like Hinn, Osteen, Dollar (lol) and Copeland to continue to lead the religious so there will continue to be religious wars.
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Just take Bush and Clinton, in their goal to kill Saddam of Irak they killed hundreds of thousand innocent victimes, they should be arrested and put in prison for the rest of their life, then after that they'll be in prison for their after life.
You know that Saddam of Irak (sic) not only started a war with Iran, but started the Gulf War?

No, you wouldn't, would you.
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Old 18th June 2019, 10:54 PM   #4020
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You know that Saddam of Irak (sic) not only started a war with Iran, but started the Gulf War?

No, you wouldn't, would you.
A just never touch who is weaker than him but just the stronger. What about the innocent people who died?
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A just never touch who is weaker than him but just the stronger. What about the innocent people who died?
Gaetan, what does that have to do with money? Gaetan, don't you understand that society at one time had no money? The world was full of violence and people raping and pillaging. Is that what you want again?
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Gaetan, what does that have to do with money? Gaetan, don't you understand that society at one time had no money? The world was full of violence and people raping and pillaging. Is that what you want again?
Because of penuries but we can fix that. it is not better with money, US want to steal the ressources of Venezuela.

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Originally Posted by Gaetan View Post
Because of penuries but we can fix that. it is not better with money, US want to steal the ressources of Venezuela.
Everything is better with money. Everything would be better if religion were abolished because the religious start wars and abuse children.

Don't you care about the children, Gaetan?
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A just never touch who is weaker than him but just the stronger. What about the innocent people who died?
Yes, what about the people that died because of Sadam Hussein?
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Because of penuries but we can fix that. it is not better with money, US want to steal the ressources of Venezuela.
You say you can fix it but it's easy to say something.

Money is simply a means of exchange. In the days before money, people used salt or other things that held value as a means of trading. Money is just a more efficient manner of trade.

In the old days, people needed many kids to help care for them when they got old. Now you can just save money and care for your own needs as you get older.

And the US wanting to steal from Venezuela is just a wackadoodle comment.
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Because of penuries but we can fix that. it is not better with money, US want to steal the ressources of Venezuela.
Russia beat us to it.
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You say you can fix it but it's easy to say something.

Money is simply a means of exchange. In the days before money, people used salt or other things that held value as a means of trading. Money is just a more efficient manner of trade.

In the old days, people needed many kids to help care for them when they got old. Now you can just save money and care for your own needs as you get older.

And the US wanting to steal from Venezuela is just a wackadoodle comment.
What gives the power to rich is money, without money, no debt to rich, there won't be no rich
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Yes, what about the people that died because of Sadam Hussein?
Not so much, you should care about the action of your government, Trump consider himself as the emperor of the world.
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What gives the power to rich is money, without money, no debt to rich, there won't be no rich
There would still be evil religious. There would still be religious wars and religious abusing children. But Gaetan proves he doesn't care about any of that. He just cares about calling jesus a liar.
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What gives the power to rich is money, without money, no debt to rich, there won't be no rich
And if there was no money, then whoever had resources would be "rich" and have the power. Money in and of itself is nothing. Money is often just a piece of paper.

Take away money and people with water and other resources will become the new breed of "rich".
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Not so much, you should care about the action of your government, Trump consider himself as the emperor of the world.
Just because you think he's working your imaginary friends side of the street doesn't make it true.

It's Jesus H. Christ and his drooling myrmidons that hold the record for murdering innocents and you want to hold his gland.
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You know that Saddam of Irak (sic) not only started a war with Iran, but started the Gulf War?

No, you wouldn't, would you.
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A just never touch who is weaker than him but just the stronger. What about the innocent people who died?
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Yes, what about the people that died because of Saddam Hussein?
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Not so much, you should care about the action of your government, Trump consider himself as the emperor of the world.
Great, you don't care about human lives that are taken away by dictators. Another thing to add to the "Things Gaeten doesn't understand" list.

Several direct questions to you Gaetan. How do you support yourself? Are you retired? Are you on the dole? Do you receive benefits from the government? What do you provide in order to pay for food and shelter?
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Trump consider himself as the emperor of the world.
Gaetan considers himself to be better than his Jesus character. Gaetan says Jesus is a liar for claiming that "the laborer deserves his wages".
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Great, you don't care about human lives that are taken away by dictators.
I care a lot about the innocent life taken by Bush when he attacked Irak, why don't you do so? Saying that Saddam killed some people give you clear conscience but it's not an excuse.
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And if there was no money, then whoever had resources would be "rich" and have the power. Money in and of itself is nothing. Money is often just a piece of paper.

Take away money and people with water and other resources will become the new breed of "rich".
Are you saying that the countries with the biggest arms like US will have the power? How would be elected criminal leaders without money power?

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I care a lot about the innocent life taken by Bush when he attacked Irak,
But you continue to not care at all about religious abusing children or religious wars.
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Are you saying that the countries with the biggest arms like US will have the power?
No, there wouldn't be countries anymore, there would only be small bands of hunter gatherers. Billions would have died of brutality if we eliminated money. Are you saying that that's your dream?

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How would be elected criminal leaders without money power?
How do evil religious leaders seize power now?
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Are you saying that the countries with the biggest arms like US will have the power? How would be elected criminal leaders without money power?
With or without money, might makes right. In the caveman days it was survival of the fittest (strongest). If I can overpower you, then I can take your food and you will starve.

Money allows people to be civilized but you want to see brutality in society apparently.
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With or without money, might makes right. In the caveman days it was survival of the fittest (strongest). If I can overpower you, then I can take your food and you will starve.

Money allows people to be civilized but you want to see brutality in society apparently.
Who elected Bush, Clinton, Obama, rich and their money, without money there won't be criminal leaders on countries, the world will be a lot better, don't you think so? How would they corrupt the reporters or medias without money, with bags of potatoes? They'll says **** you they are free of charge.

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Who elected Bush, Clinton, Obama,
Who elected Hinn, Dollar or Copeland? People who don't mind child abuse or religious wars. Do you have anything negative to say about religious wars or child abusers?

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They'll says **** you they are free of charge.
So nobody will have to work since everything is free?
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