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Old 8th March 2017, 05:47 PM   #1
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GOP Congressman calls for Nazi-like purge

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-repre...174638632.html

Republican representative from Iowa Steven King is literally calling for a Nazi-like purge of all Liberals within all Federal agencies.

He says Liberals need to be purged from all Federal agencies "before disloyal, illegal & treasonist [sic] acts sink us.”

He also claims there is a "Deep State" in the Federal govt., run by President Obama, and he wants Steve Bannon to deal with it.

This is a very troubling turn of events, and reminds of us of the Republican Governor of Maine calling for Authoritarian govt. in the USA, last year.
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Old 8th March 2017, 05:52 PM   #2
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Old 8th March 2017, 05:56 PM   #3
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I of course don't know for sure, but I suspect that liberals and leftists are interchangeable to this representative, akin to our very own logger.
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Old 8th March 2017, 05:57 PM   #4
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He didn't say "liberals" he said "leftists." He didn't say Nazi-like purge (left off summary execution and death camps, "Nazi" and "purge").

So, yeah. Literally he said all that.

Remember when people who knew enough to use "literally" knew what the word was supposed to mean?
So its ok since he said "Lefists" and not "Liberals"?

You're splitting hairs. And no its NOT ok to threaten to fire tens of thousands of people simply due to their political leanings and the year they started their job.
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Originally Posted by twinstead View Post
I of course don't know for sure, but I suspect that liberals and leftists are interchangeable to this representative, akin to our very own logger.
Yeah, it's a pretty weak argument to make. The same as:

"He didn't say PURGE, he said, 'Murder millions while they sleep.'"

But when it's all you got, flaunt it.
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A deep state purge has worked out well for Turkey. Take thier lead and lock up the enemies of the people who deal in fake news.
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At no time in the last 50 years did a President ever purge Federal agencies, or even consider purging Federal agencies, of all personnel holdovers who may have different or opposing political ideas.

Not only would such an act be very difficult to do, but it would lead to such a cloud of fear over the Trump Administration that analogies to Hitler and Stalin would no longer be exaggerations.
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Old 8th March 2017, 06:06 PM   #9
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A deep state purge has worked out well for Turkey. Take thier lead and lock up the enemies of the people who deal in fake news.
Well, if we are to purge our government of folks who routinely peddle in Fake News, we should start with the Liar-in-Chief, Donald Trump.
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It would also stop government dead. Governments are run by their bureaucracies, it's what the damn things are for. Stick a billionaire idiot in a room, give her the title "Secretary of Education", but she can't do a thing herself. She has to rely on people following her instructions. What, is she going to personally go round to all the public schools and confisicate the biology books?

For that matter, what can Trump actually do himself, if nobody obeys him? He can Tweet about it, and hold his breath until he turns a slightly redder orange, and that's about the limit.
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If you want to get technical, the purges were more of a Soviet thing than a Nazi thing.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
It would also stop government dead. Governments are run by their bureaucracies, it's what the damn things are for. Stick a billionaire idiot in a room, give her the title "Secretary of Education", but she can't do a thing herself. She has to rely on people following her instructions. What, is she going to personally go round to all the public schools and confisicate the biology books?

For that matter, what can Trump actually do himself, if nobody obeys him? He can Tweet about it, and hold his breath until he turns a slightly redder orange, and that's about the limit.
You give the jobs to young opportunists and party faithful. You would have plenty of creationists keen to sieze science books and burn them too.
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Old 8th March 2017, 06:16 PM   #13
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Too bad for Trump that government employees simply tend to be Liberals.

We see public service as a calling. We don't see working for the government as a bad thing, or being payed by tax-payer dollars as a bad thing.

We believe in agencies that protect workers, protect the environment, educate kids, help the poor, heal the sick, care for the old, regulate our workplaces, etc etc.

Get rid of all Liberals in govt. and we won't have a govt. left.
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If you want to get technical, the purges were more of a Soviet thing than a Nazi thing.
GW Bush purged the career lawyers at the DoJ and replaced them with new grads from the them unaccredited Regent Law School run by Pat Robertson.

Justice Holy Hires

How Pat Robertson's law school is changing America.
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This legal worldview meshed perfectly with that of former Attorney General John Ashcroft—a devout Pentecostal who forbade use of the word "pride," as well as the phrase "no higher calling than public service," on documents bearing his signature. (He also snatched the last bit of fun out of his press conferences when he covered up the bared breasts of the DoJ statue the "Spirit of Justice"). No surprise that, as he launched a transformation of the Justice Department, the Goodlings looked good to him.

One of Ashcroft's most profound changes was to the Civil Rights Division, launched in 1957 to file cases on behalf of African-Americans and women. Under Ashcroft, career lawyers were systematically fired or forced out and replaced by members of conservative or Christian groups or folks with no civil rights experience. In the five years after 2001, the civil rights division brought no voting cases on behalf of African-Americans. It brought one employment case on behalf of an African-American. Instead, the division took up the "civil rights" abuses of reverse discrimination—claims of voter fraud or discrimination against Christians. On Feb. 20, Gonzales announced a new initiative called the First Freedom Project to carry out "even greater enforcement of religious rights for all Americans." In his view, the fight for a student's right to read a Bible at school is as urgent a civil rights problem as the right to vote.
Here we go again.
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Old 8th March 2017, 06:56 PM   #15
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If you want to get technical, the purges were more of a Soviet thing than a Nazi thing.
Republicans do Nazi-like purges, Democrats do Soviet ones.
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Get rid of all Liberals in govt. and we won't have a govt. left.
And then it will be, Mission accomplished!
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In the five years after 2001, the civil rights division brought no voting cases on behalf of African-Americans... Instead, the division took up the "civil rights" abuses of reverse discrimination—claims of voter fraud or discrimination against Christians.
Subvert an organization and make it do the opposite of what was intended? All perfectly legally? It's the American way!
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So its ok since he said "Lefists" and not "Liberals"?
Yes it's perfectly okay, elections have consequences!

What we supposed to do? You leftists have been thrown into the wilderness, are we supposed to just let you keep your liberal justices because your throwing yourself to the floor with a major tantrum?

We're going to literally decimate your side. And you're letting us do it, you refuse to soften your hard left policies. Thank you!
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Too bad for Trump that government employees simply tend to be Liberals.

We see public service as a calling. We don't see working for the government as a bad thing, or being payed by tax-payer dollars as a bad thing.

We believe in agencies that protect workers, protect the environment, educate kids, help the poor, heal the sick, care for the old, regulate our workplaces, etc etc.

Get rid of all Liberals in govt. and we won't have a govt. left.
Liberals seek out government jobs because they can't make it in the private sector, liberals are drawn to the easy work of government because they can't make it in the private sector.

Liberals see "public service" as a cash cow.
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Liberals seek out government jobs because they can't make it in the private sector, liberals are drawn to the easy work of government because they can't make it in the private sector.

Liberals see "public service" as a cash cow.
You mean liberals like Bill Gates?
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You mean liberals like Bill Gates?
Liberals who work for the government.
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Liberals who work for the government.

And how do the career conservatives who work for the gov't view it?


eta: I think a previous poster had it right... you're a Poe, probably playing the flip side on conservative boards.
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Or Warren Buffet, or Mark Cuban, or Oprah, or Sheryl Sandberg, or Marc Benioff?

I guess none of them made it in the Private Sector?

In fact it was being noted that the Democrats have more rich donors than the Republicans do in the 2012 election, something Hillary repeated last year.

The idea that Liberals aren't making it in the "real world" is so far from wrong it's not even wrong.
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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
eta: I think a previous poster had it right... you're a Poe, probably playing the flip side on conservative boards.
Poes generally exhibit a bit more sophistication.
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Originally Posted by Hercules56 View Post
Too bad for Trump that government employees simply tend to be Liberals.

We see public service as a calling. We don't see working for the government as a bad thing, or being payed by tax-payer dollars as a bad thing.

We believe in agencies that protect workers, protect the environment, educate kids, help the poor, heal the sick, care for the old, regulate our workplaces, etc etc.

Get rid of all Liberals in govt. and we won't have a govt. left.
The funny part is, the agencies that have been providing the most damaging leaks have been in intelligence - those guys lean conservative, not liberal. But what they don't like are buffoons that endanger US interests.

But it's worth pointing out that Steve King comes from the white supremacist wing of the GOP, so naturally he'd bee completely in favor of getting rid of "Mexicans", which he sees as mostly drug dealers with calves the size of cantaloupes. And of course, he'd be happy to see "muslims" banned from the US entirely.

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Subvert an organization and make it do the opposite of what was intended? All perfectly legally? It's the American way!
Well, the Bush-era DoJ was also happy to bring discrimination cases on behalf of *white* voters, but not to protect *black* voters, and were very interested in the voter fraud nonsense. In fact, it's partly due to their complete failure to find widespread voter fraud that we know that Trump was spouting nonsense when he claimed that there were suddenly "millions" of illegal votes.
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Or Warren Buffet, or Mark Cuban, or Oprah, or Sheryl Sandberg, or Marc Benioff?

I guess none of them made it in the Private Sector?
Or Sergey Brin and Larry Page (Google founders), Steve Jobs, Robert Rubin (of Goldman Sachs), Paul Allen (Microsoft), Jared Polis, Tim Gill, John Corzine...........
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Or Sergey Brin and Larry Page (Google founders), Steve Jobs, Robert Rubin (of Goldman Sachs), Paul Allen (Microsoft), Jared Polis, Tim Gill, John Corzine...........

All LINOs. Every last one of 'em.

They can't be real libraals or they wouldn't be rich.
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We're going to literally decimate your side. And you're letting us do it, you refuse to soften your hard left policies. Thank you!
Literally decimate means getting rid of 10%
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-repre...174638632.html

Republican representative from Iowa Steven King is literally calling for a Nazi-like purge of all Liberals within all Federal agencies.

He says Liberals need to be purged from all Federal agencies "before disloyal, illegal & treasonist [sic] acts sink us.”

He also claims there is a "Deep State" in the Federal govt., run by President Obama, and he wants Steve Bannon to deal with it.

This is a very troubling turn of events, and reminds of us of the Republican Governor of Maine calling for Authoritarian govt. in the USA, last year.
I think the only reasonable way to proceed is for each candidate for government employment to submit to an examination to ensure that their opinions correctly align with those that will Make America Great AgainTM. The examination will consist of a series of written tests which would allow the candidate to demonstrate "correct" thinking followed by a series of interviews for those successful in the written tests so that it can be determined that the values expressed in the written answers are honestly and legitimately held and not just learned.

Over time, organisations could be set up to allow people to be pre-vetted. Let's call it a MAGA organisation. Members of that organisation, having demonstrated their knowledge of, and support for, true American values would automatically be considered suitable for employment, and advancement within the government.

The vetting process could cause a bottleneck if insufficient qualified candidates are available so I'd also advocating setting up an organisation which imbued the correct values at an early age, thus ensuring a steady flow of qualified candidates. The MAGA Youth could have training centres which schooled youngsters and then prepared them for taking over the reins of power.
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If you want to get technical, the purges were more of a Soviet thing than a Nazi thing.
They did also have their own version of purges : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

Also nearly 80K german were killed as "resisting" the hitler government & war effort.

I would still count that as a purge.
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Liberals seek out government jobs because they can't make it in the private sector, liberals are drawn to the easy work of government because they can't make it in the private sector.

Liberals see "public service" as a cash cow.
I know I shouldn't feed the troll, but in this case I can't resist.

I find this statement incredibly insulting, it disparages and misrepresents a lifetime of service by million of public servants, among whose numbers I am proud to count myself.

The public sector has its issues, there is no doubt, but the vast majority of people who I work with every day are there for a noble purpose and serve their communities and country often with selfless devotion and little or no recognition.

Address the areas where there are genuine signs of careerism or corruption by all means, but if you assume that a few bad apples are representative of the whole orchard, you miss out on the goodness that resides within.
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Just do it the British way, you only get in to the Civil Service if you got a First in Classics from the right College at either of the two Universities.
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Well, that's just to make a Classics degree useful for something.
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Let's say the cross-eyed lunatic gets his way and this "purge" begins. So here's a question: How will he reliably identify these "liberals"? Or will he not even pretend to try?

I can just see some mousey public servant tied to a (plain, wooden) office chair, the big desk-lamp turned on his face.

"Are you a...LIBERAL??!", the Inquisitor asks in a rising imperious tone, pointing finger uplifted.

"No, I've never even voted!", squeaks the reply.

"What about *gasp* social mediaaaaa!"

"Sorry, what? I don't do social things."

"I bet you even have secret thoughts about voting Trump out, don't you, you little worm!"

"Well, not really. Us public servants aren't encouraged to think about anything at all much. We just do our jobs as best we can and then go home."

"I KNEW IT! AN AGITATOR FOR SO-CALLED WORKERS' RIGHTS! YOU'RE A CRYPTO-COMMUNIST! SO OBVIOUSLY A LIBERAL! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!"
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Too bad for Trump that government employees simply tend to be Liberals.

We see public service as a calling. We don't see working for the government as a bad thing, or being payed by tax-payer dollars as a bad thing.

We believe in agencies that protect workers, protect the environment, educate kids, help the poor, heal the sick, care for the old, regulate our workplaces, etc etc.

Get rid of all Liberals in govt. and we won't have a govt. left.
Now you are getting the intention.
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Originally Posted by PhantomWolf View Post
Or Warren Buffet, or Mark Cuban, or Oprah, or Sheryl Sandberg, or Marc Benioff?

I guess none of them made it in the Private Sector?

In fact it was being noted that the Democrats have more rich donors than the Republicans do in the 2012 election, something Hillary repeated last year.

The idea that Liberals aren't making it in the "real world" is so far from wrong it's not even wrong.
But that is New Money, Republicans have a lock on the better Old Money. The best money is inherited not earned. See the president for the case in point.
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You mean liberals like Bill Gates?
Yes. "Liberals" like Bill Gates. We're living in the post-RINO era of American politics. They're all being called out as being the commies that they really are.
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Just do it the British way, you only get in to the Civil Service if you got a First in Classics from the right College at either of the two Universities.
Well tbh you can get into the civil service wherever you went to school and regardless of whether you went to university and if so which one.

If you want to get into the upper echelons OTOH, you're probably pretty close to being right
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Liberals seek out government jobs because they can't make it in the private sector, liberals are drawn to the easy work of government because they can't make it in the private sector.

Liberals see "public service" as a cash cow.
Ha. As if conservatives actually create anything of value. They don't invent things. They don't found companies. The only thing conservatives can do is climb the ladder within companies liberals start. They are parasites that suck away at all that is good and productive in society. That is why they are the cancer. That is why they are the plague.
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I of course don't know for sure, but I suspect that liberals and leftists are interchangeable to this representative, akin to our very own logger.
Anyone who isn't behind Donald Trump a 100% is a liberal leftist traitor. Anyone who doubts his wisdom and the greatness of his actions is spreading sedition and leftist defeatist propaganda.
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