FBI closes case on D.B. Cooper

William Parcher · 12th July 2016, 05:56 PM

They never confirmed any of the many leads. They couldn't figure out his real identity. I think that the common theory is that he died. It's an interesting story.

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The FBI says it's no longer actively investigating the unsolved mystery of 1970s plane hijacker D.B. Cooper.

The bureau announced Tuesday that it's "exhaustively reviewed all credible leads" during its 45-year investigation and has redirected those resources to other priorities.

The FBI has investigated since a man calling himself Dan Cooper hijacked a Boeing 727 headed for Seattle after boarding at Portland International Airport on Nov. 24, 1971. He later jumped out the back of the plane in southwest Washington wearing a business suit and a parachute after receiving $200,000 in ransom money.

No sign of Cooper has emerged, though bundles of his cash, matched by serial numbers, were found in 1980.

The FBI says it has conducted searches, collected all available evidence and interviewed all identified witnesses. It says it's chased an immense number of tips but none have resulted in identifying the hijacker.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...on_is_ove.html

shemp · 12th July 2016, 07:48 PM

Does Donald Trump have an alibi?

marplots · 12th July 2016, 08:01 PM

Don't believe them Dan, it's a trap.

Pianoro · 12th July 2016, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by shemp

Does Donald Trump have an alibi?

Cooper was described by witnesses as calm, polite, and well-spoken...

Duffy Moon · 12th July 2016, 09:22 PM

To be fair, he's probably spent the money by now, so they might as well forget it.

William Parcher · 12th July 2016, 09:26 PM

The money was all recorded by serial number. They knew the numbers and they were publicly shared. None of it ever entered circulation. Whatever happened to the money it was never spent.

simonxlong · 12th July 2016, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

The money was all recorded by serial number. They knew the numbers and they were publicly shared. None of it ever entered circulation. Whatever happened to the money it was never spent.

That's always been the one thing that makes it seem likely he died. Even if he had spent the money overseas, over the course of so many years and changing hands so many times, you would think that some of it would have eventually made its way to a US bank and be recognized. Of course, I am not sure how sophisticated banks were at spotting marked serial numbers at that time.

fagin · 13th July 2016, 01:38 AM

In the documentary he looked just like Treat Williams.

Crossbow · 13th July 2016, 06:44 AM

I am surprised that no one has tried to blame Clinton or Obama.

NoahFence · 13th July 2016, 06:46 AM

Whew!! It was me the whole time.

paulhutch · 13th July 2016, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by simonxlong

That's always been the one thing that makes it seem likely he died. Even if he had spent the money overseas, over the course of so many years and changing hands so many times, you would think that some of it would have eventually made its way to a US bank and be recognized. Of course, I am not sure how sophisticated banks were at spotting marked serial numbers at that time.

IIRC, the government agencies record serial numbers of all bills that are going to be destroyed. If I'm remembering correctly, then the fact they never recorded any from the heist does seem to indicate that D. B. hid the money then died.

dudalb · 13th July 2016, 02:09 PM

I accept Gary Larson's take on the fate of DB Cooper

dasmiller · 13th July 2016, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

I accept Gary Larson's take on the fate of DB Cooper

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...6adcaf1b66.jpg

Hmmmmm . . . Cooper disappears in Washington state in the 1971. Five years later, Gary Larson gets his break selling comics to a Seattle-based newspaper, and later publishes a cartoon purporting to show that Cooper was killed and there's no point in continuing the investigation.

Interesting, interesting . . . .

newyorkguy · 13th July 2016, 03:17 PM

On another forum it was discussed that given the time frame available to gather the money, make sure it was $200,000, pack it up and then get it to the plane, there might not have been time to adequately record the serial numbers. That the FBI might've just said they had recorded the numbers in order to discourage copycats.

I've read about it -- including accounts that he bailed out over a desolate mountainous section of Washington. It was actually more like a suburb of Portland near I-5. I lived in Vancouver, Washington briefly in the 1970s and when I pinned down the locale I remembered driving through the general area. Several times.

jhunter1163 · 13th July 2016, 03:24 PM

They did find some of the money on a beach in 1980, buried a couple inches deep in the sand.

http://www.citizensleuths.com/db-coo...d-to-know.html

newyorkguy · 13th July 2016, 04:33 PM

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Nine years later in 1980 just north of Portland on the Columbia River, a young boy named Brian Ingram was digging a fire pit in the sand at a place called Tena Bar.

I used to go to 'beach' parties on sandy spots along the Columbia River north of Portland. Possibly near where they found some of the money buried in 1980. There'd be as many as thirty or forty people and we'd usually make a fire, too, mostly using huge pieces of the drift wood that were always scattered about. One of the highlights was when one of the container ships (heading to or from the Port of Portland) would turn their spotlight on us from mid-channel. Great times.

I'm neither convinced Cooper survived or didn't survive. What a crazy guy. I guess I kind of hope he made it.

Jawaka · 13th July 2016, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Crossbow

I am surprised that no one has tried to blame Clinton or Obama.

I blame Clinton and Obama.

Trebuchet · 13th July 2016, 05:06 PM

Cooper jumped somewhere between Mt St Helens and Portland. Obviously he was eaten by a Sasquatch, endemic to that area.

(I saw a TV documentary years ago which basically said exactly that.)

Greedo · 13th July 2016, 05:18 PM

Therefore D.B. Cooper is the Zodiac Killer.

RecoveringYuppy · 13th July 2016, 05:21 PM

And so is Ted Cruz.

TubbaBlubba · 15th July 2016, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

I'm neither convinced Cooper survived or didn't survive. What a crazy guy. I guess I kind of hope he made it.

Yeah, I think the arguments that the money hasn't turned up are a bit flawed both because the FBI would lie about it, and because they assume that Cooper was in it for the money. It's not exactly your average crime and he was hardly your average criminal. A person that crazy yet well-prepared might anticipate that the bills would be marked and just do it for the thrill.

simonxlong · 15th July 2016, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by TubbaBlubba

A person that crazy yet well-prepared might anticipate that the bills would be marked and just do it for the thrill.

Cooper was described as calm and collected, well spoken, even thoughtful. Most people, even professional criminals, would have real trouble keeping cool in such circumstances, especially for hours, yet Cooper never seemed phased by the whole experience. Then he takes the money and parachute and jumps out of the plane, at night. He seems like such an unusual hijacker that, assuming he survived the jump, one has to wonder whether it was about the money or something else entirely.

By 1971, the government had been tracing ransom money using serial numbers for decades, so it seems unlikely to me that Cooper would do the necessary research to perpetrate the crime, but never consider that possibility. He may have thought of a way to spend the currency without attracting attention, perhaps overseas, hence why it never turned up.

Also, while not wanting to go too far down conspiracy theory lane, I think the possibility remains that the crime could have an additional motive(s) that we are simply unaware of and that was either more important to Cooper personally or more lucrative than the $200k.

jhunter1163 · 15th July 2016, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by TubbaBlubba

Yeah, I think the arguments that the money hasn't turned up are a bit flawed both because the FBI would lie about it, and because they assume that Cooper was in it for the money. It's not exactly your average crime and he was hardly your average criminal. A person that crazy yet well-prepared might anticipate that the bills would be marked and just do it for the thrill.

As I posted above, they did find some of the money, and in circumstances that suggest that it got covered naturally rather than deliberately. I suspect that Cooper's parachute didn't open, and he became one with nature in an entirely different way than what he intended.

TubbaBlubba · 15th July 2016, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

As I posted above, they did find some of the money, and in circumstances that suggest that it got covered naturally rather than deliberately. I suspect that Cooper's parachute didn't open, and he became one with nature in an entirely different way than what he intended.

He would've liked them to think that.

TheGoldcountry · 16th July 2016, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

As I posted above, they did find some of the money, and in circumstances that suggest that it got covered naturally rather than deliberately. I suspect that Cooper's parachute didn't open, and he became one with nature in an entirely different way than what he intended.

Even though I agree with you, I prefer to think otherwise. Similar to the film "Escape From Alcatraz." There is no way those guys survived, but the notion is entertaining.

RobRoy · 18th July 2016, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry

Even though I agree with you, I prefer to think otherwise. Similar to the film "Escape From Alcatraz." There is no way those guys survived, but the notion is entertaining.

I thought the MythBusters proved that the escape was completely plausible, even likely.

Also, pay no attention to the fact that I'm commenting on this thread. Obviously, I'm not D.B. Cooper. Obviously.

Garrison · 25th July 2016, 03:16 PM

More than likely he died on the night, but it is possible that the FBI either didn't have the serial numbers, or did a lousy job tracking them later.

rockinkt · 25th July 2016, 04:29 PM

Hmmm...Aha!!!

William Parcher starts a thread about the DB Cooper investigation being closed.
There is no evidence on this board that William Parcher existed before DB Cooper.
Obviously Parcher is gloating because he is DB Cooper!!!11!!1!!11

Being smarter than the FBI is so much fun!

Monza · 28th July 2016, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by Garrison

More than likely he died on the night, but it is possible that the FBI either didn't have the serial numbers, or did a lousy job tracking them later.

I think it is highly likely he died on the night. But the FBI did have the serial numbers and have published them. An 8-year old boy found a small amount ($2000?) of the money alongside a river in 1980. The bundle was still packed and arranged in the manner it was originally handed over to the hijacker. It is the only money recovered and it suggests D.B. Cooper didn't make it.

TubbaBlubba · 28th July 2016, 08:27 AM

I don't seem to recall, why the likelihood that he died? Was the terrain that harsh, was it a bad height to jump from, too windy..?

(I know nothing about parachuting.)

Segnosaur · 28th July 2016, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by TubbaBlubba

I don't seem to recall, why the likelihood that he died? Was the terrain that harsh, was it a bad height to jump from, too windy..?

(I know nothing about parachuting.)

Harsh terrain, jumping from an airliner with a higher speed than you'd normally use for skydiving.

One of the issues is that nobody knows how experienced DB Cooper was as a skydiver. If he was an expert, he might have made it; if he was a novice, he likely would have died.

One of the parachutes he was provided with was actually a practice chute and was sewn shut.

TheGoldcountry · 28th July 2016, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by TubbaBlubba

I don't seem to recall, why the likelihood that he died? Was the terrain that harsh, was it a bad height to jump from, too windy..?

(I know nothing about parachuting.)

I he landed in rough terrain.

RecoveringYuppy · 28th July 2016, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

One of the parachutes he was provided with was actually a practice chute and was sewn shut.

Why do training schools have such things?

TubbaBlubba · 28th July 2016, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Harsh terrain, jumping from an airliner with a higher speed than you'd normally use for skydiving.

One of the issues is that nobody knows how experienced DB Cooper was as a skydiver. If he was an expert, he might have made it; if he was a novice, he likely would have died.

One of the parachutes he was provided with was actually a practice chute and was sewn shut.

What's the kind of thing that might've happened? That he moved at such a high horizontal speed that the parachute failed to unfold properly or quickly enough? That his horizontal speed would be high enough when hitting the ground that he might seriously injure himself, or smash into a mountainside or something?

Metullus · 28th July 2016, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy

Why do training schools have such things?

Ground school inert example for familiarization. Novices can handle the dummy rig without damaging it, including practice jumps off of low platforms.

elgarak · 28th July 2016, 03:13 PM

If he died in the jump, he would have had the money on him.

When the money was found it narrowed down the area for a search, either to find the rest of the money, or the remains of Cooper and his equipment.

I find it illogical to not search in the vicinity of the found money, or to model how the money got where it was when it slipped out when Cooper died, and then search where sensible models point to. I conclude that this was done, but neither were Cooper's remains nor the rest of the money found.

The fact they haven't found anything else considerably lowers the probability that he died in the jump immediately, IMO.

Trebuchet · 28th July 2016, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by TubbaBlubba

I don't seem to recall, why the likelihood that he died? Was the terrain that harsh, was it a bad height to jump from, too windy..?

(I know nothing about parachuting.)

Bigfoot. And yes, there are people who are sure that's what happened.

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TubbaBlubba · 28th July 2016, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by elgarak

The fact they haven't found anything else considerably lowers the probability that he died in the jump immediately, IMO.

Although the possibility of suffering injury, crawling to shelter and then succumbing is still there.

William Parcher · 10th September 2016, 06:54 PM

Lawsuit filed against FBI to make D.B. Cooper investigation file public.

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A Los Angeles-based filmmaker has filed a lawsuit Thursday to compel the FBI and the U.S. Department of Justice to release the investigative files in the notorious D.B. Cooper hijacking case...

Tom Colbert, the filmmaker and a former journalist, claims the FBI's announcement came a day after a two-part series aired on The History Channel that featured him and a team of experts conducting their own investigation on D.B. Cooper's true identity. Colbert says his team found more than 100 pieces of evidence that points to Cooper being Robert W. Rackstraw, a 72-year-old Vietnam War veteran with parachute training who lives in Southern California.

Rackstraw has claimed to be D.B. Cooper in the past, but wouldn't confirm or deny it when Colbert interviewed him for the show, the lawsuit said. The show, "D.B. Cooper: Case Closed?" aired on July 10 and 11. According to the lawsuit, Colbert made a Freedom of Information Act request for the Cooper case file to the FBI on July 12 and didn't receive a response.

The lawsuit said the bureau "took advantage of the airing of the program to close its case and hide the fact that it could not develop evidence sufficient to prosecute Rackstraw beyond a reasonable doubt because of earlier Bureau investigative errors and failures."...

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no..._fbi_to_m.html

Segnosaur · 14th September 2016, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by elgarak

If he died in the jump, he would have had the money on him.

Not necessarily. It depends on how well he had the money secured on him.

If he were holding some of the cash in his hands, or somehow tied to him loosely, it could have become dislodged during the jump, or when he pulled the rip cord, potentially leaving miles between him and the lost cash.

Another issue is that the money that was found may have been washed down river, meaning that not only would they need to search the immediate area, but also miles upstream as well.

12th July 2016, 05:56 PM	#1
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 26,114	FBI closes case on D.B. Cooper They never confirmed any of the many leads. They couldn't figure out his real identity. I think that the common theory is that he died. It's an interesting story. Quote: The FBI says it's no longer actively investigating the unsolved mystery of 1970s plane hijacker D.B. Cooper. The bureau announced Tuesday that it's "exhaustively reviewed all credible leads" during its 45-year investigation and has redirected those resources to other priorities. The FBI has investigated since a man calling himself Dan Cooper hijacked a Boeing 727 headed for Seattle after boarding at Portland International Airport on Nov. 24, 1971. He later jumped out the back of the plane in southwest Washington wearing a business suit and a parachute after receiving $200,000 in ransom money. No sign of Cooper has emerged, though bundles of his cash, matched by serial numbers, were found in 1980. The FBI says it has conducted searches, collected all available evidence and interviewed all identified witnesses. It says it's chased an immense number of tips but none have resulted in identifying the hijacker. http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...on_is_ove.html
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12th July 2016, 08:27 PM	#4
Pianoro Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 1,334	Originally Posted by shemp Does Donald Trump have an alibi? Cooper was described by witnesses as calm, polite, and well-spoken...
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Duffy Moon Master Poster Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,591	To be fair, he's probably spent the money by now, so they might as well forget it.
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12th July 2016, 09:26 PM	#6
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 26,114	The money was all recorded by serial number. They knew the numbers and they were publicly shared. None of it ever entered circulation. Whatever happened to the money it was never spent.
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12th July 2016, 10:22 PM	#7
simonxlong Thinker Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 193	Originally Posted by William Parcher The money was all recorded by serial number. They knew the numbers and they were publicly shared. None of it ever entered circulation. Whatever happened to the money it was never spent. That's always been the one thing that makes it seem likely he died. Even if he had spent the money overseas, over the course of so many years and changing hands so many times, you would think that some of it would have eventually made its way to a US bank and be recognized. Of course, I am not sure how sophisticated banks were at spotting marked serial numbers at that time.
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13th July 2016, 12:30 PM	#11
paulhutch Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Blackstone River Valley, MA Posts: 2,298	Originally Posted by simonxlong That's always been the one thing that makes it seem likely he died. Even if he had spent the money overseas, over the course of so many years and changing hands so many times, you would think that some of it would have eventually made its way to a US bank and be recognized. Of course, I am not sure how sophisticated banks were at spotting marked serial numbers at that time. IIRC, the government agencies record serial numbers of all bills that are going to be destroyed. If I'm remembering correctly, then the fact they never recorded any from the heist does seem to indicate that D. B. hid the money then died.

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dasmiller Just the right amount of cowbell Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Well past Hither, looking for Yon Posts: 6,618	Originally Posted by dudalb I accept Gary Larson's take on the fate of DB Cooper http://www.internationalskeptics.com...6adcaf1b66.jpg Hmmmmm . . . Cooper disappears in Washington state in the 1971. Five years later, Gary Larson gets his break selling comics to a Seattle-based newspaper, and later publishes a cartoon purporting to show that Cooper was killed and there's no point in continuing the investigation. Interesting, interesting . . . .
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newyorkguy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 12,885	On another forum it was discussed that given the time frame available to gather the money, make sure it was $200,000, pack it up and then get it to the plane, there might not have been time to adequately record the serial numbers. That the FBI might've just said they had recorded the numbers in order to discourage copycats. I've read about it -- including accounts that he bailed out over a desolate mountainous section of Washington. It was actually more like a suburb of Portland near I-5. I lived in Vancouver, Washington briefly in the 1970s and when I pinned down the locale I remembered driving through the general area. Several times.

13th July 2016, 03:24 PM	#15
jhunter1163 beer-swilling semiliterate Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Connecticut, or King Arthur's Court. Hard to tell sometimes. Posts: 25,733	They did find some of the money on a beach in 1980, buried a couple inches deep in the sand. http://www.citizensleuths.com/db-coo...d-to-know.html
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newyorkguy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 12,885	Quote: Nine years later in 1980 just north of Portland on the Columbia River, a young boy named Brian Ingram was digging a fire pit in the sand at a place called Tena Bar. I used to go to 'beach' parties on sandy spots along the Columbia River north of Portland. Possibly near where they found some of the money buried in 1980. There'd be as many as thirty or forty people and we'd usually make a fire, too, mostly using huge pieces of the drift wood that were always scattered about. One of the highlights was when one of the container ships (heading to or from the Port of Portland) would turn their spotlight on us from mid-channel. Great times. I'm neither convinced Cooper survived or didn't survive. What a crazy guy. I guess I kind of hope he made it.
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13th July 2016, 05:06 PM	#18
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 36,000	Cooper jumped somewhere between Mt St Helens and Portland. Obviously he was eaten by a Sasquatch, endemic to that area. (I saw a TV documentary years ago which basically said exactly that.)
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15th July 2016, 07:25 AM	#21
TubbaBlubba Knave of the Dudes Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12,930	Originally Posted by newyorkguy I'm neither convinced Cooper survived or didn't survive. What a crazy guy. I guess I kind of hope he made it. Yeah, I think the arguments that the money hasn't turned up are a bit flawed both because the FBI would lie about it, and because they assume that Cooper was in it for the money. It's not exactly your average crime and he was hardly your average criminal. A person that crazy yet well-prepared might anticipate that the bills would be marked and just do it for the thrill.
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15th July 2016, 11:38 AM	#22
simonxlong Thinker Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 193	Originally Posted by TubbaBlubba A person that crazy yet well-prepared might anticipate that the bills would be marked and just do it for the thrill. Cooper was described as calm and collected, well spoken, even thoughtful. Most people, even professional criminals, would have real trouble keeping cool in such circumstances, especially for hours, yet Cooper never seemed phased by the whole experience. Then he takes the money and parachute and jumps out of the plane, at night. He seems like such an unusual hijacker that, assuming he survived the jump, one has to wonder whether it was about the money or something else entirely. By 1971, the government had been tracing ransom money using serial numbers for decades, so it seems unlikely to me that Cooper would do the necessary research to perpetrate the crime, but never consider that possibility. He may have thought of a way to spend the currency without attracting attention, perhaps overseas, hence why it never turned up. Also, while not wanting to go too far down conspiracy theory lane, I think the possibility remains that the crime could have an additional motive(s) that we are simply unaware of and that was either more important to Cooper personally or more lucrative than the $200k.
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15th July 2016, 05:17 PM	#23
jhunter1163 beer-swilling semiliterate Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Connecticut, or King Arthur's Court. Hard to tell sometimes. Posts: 25,733	Originally Posted by TubbaBlubba Yeah, I think the arguments that the money hasn't turned up are a bit flawed both because the FBI would lie about it, and because they assume that Cooper was in it for the money. It's not exactly your average crime and he was hardly your average criminal. A person that crazy yet well-prepared might anticipate that the bills would be marked and just do it for the thrill. As I posted above, they did find some of the money, and in circumstances that suggest that it got covered naturally rather than deliberately. I suspect that Cooper's parachute didn't open, and he became one with nature in an entirely different way than what he intended.
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15th July 2016, 11:52 PM	#24
TubbaBlubba Knave of the Dudes Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12,930	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 As I posted above, they did find some of the money, and in circumstances that suggest that it got covered naturally rather than deliberately. I suspect that Cooper's parachute didn't open, and he became one with nature in an entirely different way than what he intended. He would've liked them to think that.
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TheGoldcountry Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7,549	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 As I posted above, they did find some of the money, and in circumstances that suggest that it got covered naturally rather than deliberately. I suspect that Cooper's parachute didn't open, and he became one with nature in an entirely different way than what he intended. Even though I agree with you, I prefer to think otherwise. Similar to the film "Escape From Alcatraz." There is no way those guys survived, but the notion is entertaining.
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RobRoy Not A Mormon Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the sandbox Posts: 14,256	Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry Even though I agree with you, I prefer to think otherwise. Similar to the film "Escape From Alcatraz." There is no way those guys survived, but the notion is entertaining. I thought the MythBusters proved that the escape was completely plausible, even likely. Also, pay no attention to the fact that I'm commenting on this thread. Obviously, I'm not D.B. Cooper. Obviously.
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25th July 2016, 03:16 PM	#27
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25th July 2016, 04:29 PM	#28
rockinkt Master Poster Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,342	Hmmm...Aha!!! William Parcher starts a thread about the DB Cooper investigation being closed. There is no evidence on this board that William Parcher existed before DB Cooper. Obviously Parcher is gloating because he is DB Cooper!!!11!!1!!11 Being smarter than the FBI is so much fun!
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28th July 2016, 08:02 AM	#29
Monza Alta Viro Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,307	Originally Posted by Garrison More than likely he died on the night, but it is possible that the FBI either didn't have the serial numbers, or did a lousy job tracking them later. I think it is highly likely he died on the night. But the FBI did have the serial numbers and have published them. An 8-year old boy found a small amount ($2000?) of the money alongside a river in 1980. The bundle was still packed and arranged in the manner it was originally handed over to the hijacker. It is the only money recovered and it suggests D.B. Cooper didn't make it.
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28th July 2016, 08:27 AM	#30
TubbaBlubba Knave of the Dudes Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12,930	I don't seem to recall, why the likelihood that he died? Was the terrain that harsh, was it a bad height to jump from, too windy..? (I know nothing about parachuting.)
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28th July 2016, 08:52 AM	#31
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 19,682	Originally Posted by TubbaBlubba I don't seem to recall, why the likelihood that he died? Was the terrain that harsh, was it a bad height to jump from, too windy..? (I know nothing about parachuting.) Harsh terrain, jumping from an airliner with a higher speed than you'd normally use for skydiving. One of the issues is that nobody knows how experienced DB Cooper was as a skydiver. If he was an expert, he might have made it; if he was a novice, he likely would have died. One of the parachutes he was provided with was actually a practice chute and was sewn shut.
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28th July 2016, 08:54 AM	#32
TheGoldcountry Philosopher Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 7,549	Originally Posted by TubbaBlubba I don't seem to recall, why the likelihood that he died? Was the terrain that harsh, was it a bad height to jump from, too windy..? (I know nothing about parachuting.) I he landed in rough terrain.
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28th July 2016, 09:10 AM	#33
RecoveringYuppy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 14,185	Originally Posted by Segnosaur One of the parachutes he was provided with was actually a practice chute and was sewn shut. Why do training schools have such things?

28th July 2016, 09:22 AM	#34
TubbaBlubba Knave of the Dudes Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12,930	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Harsh terrain, jumping from an airliner with a higher speed than you'd normally use for skydiving. One of the issues is that nobody knows how experienced DB Cooper was as a skydiver. If he was an expert, he might have made it; if he was a novice, he likely would have died. One of the parachutes he was provided with was actually a practice chute and was sewn shut. What's the kind of thing that might've happened? That he moved at such a high horizontal speed that the parachute failed to unfold properly or quickly enough? That his horizontal speed would be high enough when hitting the ground that he might seriously injure himself, or smash into a mountainside or something?
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28th July 2016, 10:04 AM	#35
Metullus Forum ¾-Wit Pro Tem Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,191	Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy Why do training schools have such things? Ground school inert example for familiarization. Novices can handle the dummy rig without damaging it, including practice jumps off of low platforms.
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