Continuation General UK Politics III - Dumb and Dumber

[Lothian]

Originally Posted by sphenisc

Looks like a typical Romainer with no idea about the Cos of Living Crisis.

I think I will steal this little gem.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by sphenisc

Looks like a typical Romainer with no idea about the Cos of Living Crisis.

Ouch !

Leaf it out !

[ohms]

Jeremy Hunt is the new chancellor apparently

[Darat]

Originally Posted by ohms

Jeremy Hunt is the new chancellor apparently

I am shocked. I really wouldn't have thought he'd want to be joined at the hip and be hand-in-glove with this lot. Shows the lure of power is very strong.

[Lothian]

Originally Posted by Lothian

His resignation letter is basically. "PM You have sacked me for implementing your plan."

And hers says thanks for resigning.

That will need clearing up.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by ohms

Jeremy Hunt is the new chancellor apparently

Oh dear.

Oh well, when there's so little available talent, it's hardly surprising that the candidates are so poor.

[Ethan Thane Athen]

Originally Posted by The Don

Well those are certainly the actions of someone who is a strong and decisive leader.

Appoint someone as Chancellor of the Exchequer, ask them to implement your (crazy) headline policies and then drop them after a couple of weeks when those policies turn out not only to be utter garbage (nothing new for the Conservatives there as the last 12 years have shown) but also very unpopular (a bit of a problem if the whole raison d'etre for your government is the generation of positive headlines).

A clear demonstration of the well known adage "The buck stops next door"

As to Truss' future, is it correct that she is safe from a leadership challenge for 12 months ?

Re the last sentence- when asked about this previously it has been stated the ‘The rules, as currently written, would prevent a leadership challenge but with enough support the rules can be changed’…

Disgusting by Truss. It’s the equivalent of me giving a member of my team my wholehearted support (maybe even instructing them) on a particular course of action then sacking them because it goes wrong. Terrible leadership.

[Lothian]

I have a lot of sympathy for Kwasi Kwarteng. That is twice Liz Truss has ****** him, assuming the leaked sleeze spreadsheet is accurate.

[GlennB]

Originally Posted by GlennB

2022 now 5-4. Strewth!

Now 8/13. This is great

[Vixen]

Originally Posted by Lothian

Press conference coming up where Liz Truss is expected to announce the success of her growth agenda, and the reignition of a stagnant housing market evidenced by her getting a brand new next door neighbour.

All I heard was..."My priority is" ..."to deliver"..."to make sure".

[Vixen]

Originally Posted by Lothian

I have a lot of sympathy for Kwasi Kwarteng. That is twice Liz Truss has ****** him, assuming the leaked sleeze spreadsheet is accurate.

Kwasi is like the hero who threw himself off a bridge to rescue his colleague, clinging onto a shard of glass on the side of the cliff and facing a thousand foot plunge into rocks below.

Greater love hath no man...

[Vixen]

Originally Posted by sphenisc

Looks like a typical Romainer with no idea about the Cos of Living Crisis.

It's not rocket science.

[Darat]

Originally Posted by The Don

Oh dear.

Oh well, when there's so little available talent, it's hardly surprising that the candidates are so poor.

Don't worry in five years time he will be able to tell us everything he did wrong.... he's very good at that.

[Darat]

Noticed she went to all her assumed supportive journalists, such as The Sun, and they all asked her the same question.

[Matthew Best]

... which she didn't answer.

[Vixen]

Yes, the Telegraph, Harry Cole (ex-boyfriend of Carrie Johnson) and Robert Peston, who saw her off when he asked if she was going to apologise to the Tory party. Looked like she was going to have a nervous breakdown and took no more questions after that. Usually it's Beth Rigby of Sky News who does the 'Gotcha!' one. Peston was unusually straight to the point for a change, instead of rambling on.

[GlennB]

I'm almost tempted to buy a copy of The Telegraph tomorrow, just for giggles. Also, I have some decorating lined up and there's not a newspaper in the house.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by GlennB

Now 8/13. This is great

What are the odds on Boris Johnson being the next PM ?

Edited to add...,

I see that pundits are saying that Hunt could soon be an interim PM. Imagine the success he had with the NHS extrapolated to the government as a whole. Dear oh dear

I suppose at least it's not Nadine Dorries...

[The Don]

UK bond yields rose on the news of Hunt becoming Chancellor and Truss staying in post.

Another vote of no confidence from the markets.

[GlennB]

Originally Posted by The Don

What are the odds on Boris Johnson being the next PM ?

Edited to add...,

I see that pundits are saying that Hunt could soon be an interim PM. Imagine the success he had with the NHS extrapolated to the government as a whole. Dear oh dear

I suppose at least it's not Nadine Dorries...

Johnson 9-1 5th favourite. Sunak is 2-1 fave

[Lothian]

Driving home R5L had a queue of Tory voters who voted for her in the leadership campaign complaining that she is destroying the country with her policies.

She is implementing the exact policies you ******* voted for. For ***** sake. Take a look in the mirror you stupid *****. Like the brexit **** show this is as much your ******* fault as those self serving clueless **** wits.

Red wine time.

[jimbob]

Meanwhile what did Ed Miliband mean by quote retweeting David Cameron from 2015?

https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband/stat...XcdRZ2yNEtFu7A

[The Don]

Originally Posted by jimbob

Meanwhile what did Ed Miliband mean by quote retweeting David Cameron from 2015?

https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband/stat...XcdRZ2yNEtFu7A

I guess pointing out that voting for Call me Dave has led to far more chaos than could have been imagined for a Miliband government.

Brexit alone would be bad enough but we're going through Chancellors like no-ones business. It won't be long until everyone has had a go.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by Lothian

Driving home R5L had a queue of Tory voters who voted for her in the leadership campaign complaining that she is destroying the country with her policies.

She is implementing the exact policies you ******* voted for. For ***** sake. Take a look in the mirror you stupid *****. Like the brexit **** show this is as much your ******* fault as those self serving clueless **** wits.

Red wine time.

Well not really, they voted for "Not the brown man"

[Vixen]

Poor old Beth. Really upset she didn't get one of her gotcha-questions in:

Quote:

Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
I wasn’t given a Q. I called to PM asking her if she was out of her depth as she left. Journalists genuinely shocked that on such a big important day the PM didn’t answer Qs or explain

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status...ysaSJKiuR_AlfQ

[wobs]

Originally Posted by Lothian

Driving home R5L had a queue of Tory voters who voted for her in the leadership campaign complaining that she is destroying the country with her policies.

She is implementing the exact policies you ******* voted for. For ***** sake. Take a look in the mirror you stupid *****. Like the brexit **** show this is as much your ******* fault as those self serving clueless **** wits.

Red wine time.

We agree with every point you make.

[catsmate]

Originally Posted by GlennB

Truss cannot face a confidence vote for her first 12 months in office, but 'they have ways'

The 1922 Committee can change the rules next week.

[Norman Alexander]

Nicola Sturgeon, go for the independence vote now. Nobody is looking.

[jimbob]

Actually plausible.

https://twitter.com/MrMichaelSpicer/...s-Zjn-T6692dgA

[novaphile]

Excuse my ignorance, but, has the NHS received its extra 360 million pounds per week yet?

[jimbob]

https://twitter.com/_iPed/status/158...ya-zb85IBEyKgw

Quote:

Ped
@_iPed
Apparently Kwasi Kwarteng had trouble getting a seat on the plane cos nobody wanted him anywhere near business or economy
12:50 PM · Oct 14, 2022
·Twitter Web App

[The Don]

Looking at the headlines this morning, the Daily Mail appears to be having a bit of buyer's remorse. It used to be "In Liz we Truss", now they're accusing her of causing chaos.

I wonder if it's because she's going to reverse the tax cut on high earners and put up corporation tax ?

[Lothian]

Reasons to love Miriam Margolyes part 341.

R4 this morning live on air she mentioned that she saw Jeremy Hunt in the Green Room.
“I said, ‘You’ve got a hell of a job, best of luck.’ and what I really want to say was, ‘**** you, bastard, but you can’t say that"

[Filippo Lippi]

Tweet just now

Quote:

Always remembering that austerity, as defined by Alexei Sayle, is ‘the political philosophy that believes the global financial crisis of 2008 was caused by there being too many libraries in Wolverhampton’.

[Darat]

Originally Posted by The Don

Looking at the headlines this morning, the Daily Mail appears to be having a bit of buyer's remorse. It used to be "In Liz we Truss", now they're accusing her of causing chaos.

I wonder if it's because she's going to reverse the tax cut on high earners and put up corporation tax ?

House prices and mortgages - at its heart the Daily Mail has always been the estate agents’ newspaper.

[Mojo]

Originally Posted by The Don

Looking at the headlines this morning, the Daily Mail appears to be having a bit of buyer's remorse. It used to be "In Liz we Truss", now they're accusing her of causing chaos.

I wonder if it's because she's going to reverse the tax cut on high earners and put up corporation tax ?

It’s more likely because she’ll lose the next election.

[Dragon]

Originally Posted by Darat

House prices and mortgages - at its heart the Daily Mail has always been the estate agents’ newspaper.

This is true. The group even owns an estate agent.

[Darat]

Originally Posted by Dragon

This is true. The group even owns an estate agent.

Does it? I never knew that!

[Mojo]

This seems to have been missed in all the excitement: Home Office reclassifies modern slavery as illegal immigration issue

Quote:

The Home Office has taken the modern slavery brief away from the minister responsible for safeguarding and classed it as an “illegal immigration and asylum” issue, updated online ministerial profiles show.

I’m sure this will reduce reports of slavery, given that their response to other “illegal immigration and asylum” issues such as people trafficking is to threaten to deport the victims to Rwanda.

[Vixen]

Originally Posted by Mojo

This seems to have been missed in all the excitement: Home Office reclassifies modern slavery as illegal immigration issue




I’m sure this will reduce reports of slavery, given that their response to other “illegal immigration and asylum” issues such as people trafficking is to threaten to deport the victims to Rwanda.

If anyone was more incompetent than the Prime Minister and the former Chancellor of the Exchequer, then it has to be the spectacularly appalling and ignorant current Home Secretary Suella Braverman.

Quote:

Despite Braverman’s claims of people “gaming” the system, 97% of all modern slavery referrals concluded in the first half of this year were confirmed as genuine by the authorities.

The home secretary’s comments were contradicted by the chief executive of the Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority, Elysia McCaffrey, who said: “We don’t see people gaming the system … What we see is vulnerable people who are being exploited by opportunists and criminals.”

GUARDIAN

From the same article, the latest group of modern day slaves are children and most of them British. I thought Priti Patel was shocking in her callous mindset but Braverman is not only callous and stupid, she openly laughs at the idea of cruelty towards vulnerable people.

As for 'gaming the system' (by claiming to be seeking asylum from people traffickers and slave labour gangs) perhaps Braverman is judging others by her own standards. As the daughter of ethnic South Asians from Mauritius and Kenya, Braverman likes to claim her parents were asylum-seekers, but like Patel - whose Ugandan parents arrived before the Idi Amin crisis - this does not appear to be true. She said the other day whilst giggling about sending asylum seekers to Rwanda for Christmas, that one of her parents was an asylum-seeker from Kenya. But wait. The Mau-Mau uprising that was brutally suppressed by the British towards the end of their colonial reign, took place in 1948. Her parents arrived in the sixties. They were economic migrants, albeit arriving with the correct papers, I am sure.

The only genuine asylum seeker in the cabinet was Zahawi. I think Raab's parents arrived as Jewish refugees from Czechoslovakia. Kemi Badenoch mostly lived in Nigeria and the USA but can claim British nationality as the former having been a British Protectorate.

Priority number one: pull the ladder up behind you and show zero feelings of humanity towards other refuges, asylum seekers or economic migrants.

So they have had to tear up Raabs' Bill of Rights as not being fit for purpose and Dorries' sell-off of Channel 4 is in the bin. Liz Truss can spot bad rubbish when she sees it, sometimes. Hopefully the Rwanda plan will go the same way as a colossal misconceived waste of time and money.