[Continuation] General UK Politics III - Dumb and Dumber - Page 58

The Don · 4th February 2023, 09:28 AM

Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277

I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate.

Garrison · 4th February 2023, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by The Don

Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277

I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate.

He's a man who has no clue how the world works for most people and blithely assumes that if his wealthy friends are doing okay everything is fine.

The Don · 4th February 2023, 11:40 PM

Liz Truss claims the omnishambles wasn't her fault and her policies were sound.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64527252

This wouldn't be worrying, just a failed politician whining except that it's in a major newspaper and so presumably these failed policies will continue to be promoted.

She also claims that she was hampered by a left wing establishment - a deep state if you will. If she considers the establishment to be left wing that's a clear indication of what a right wing nutjob she is iMO.

Very Trumpist rhetoric.

Gulliver Foyle · 5th February 2023, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277

I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate.

She should know, most of her cruelty stems from the same source.

Liz Truss: too stupid to not critcise others for traits she displays even worse.

P.J. Denyer · 5th February 2023, 03:08 AM

Truss has/is the subject of an article in the Torygraph today (haven't seen the actual article so it could be either), the accompanying photo is interesting, she's posing next to a picture that seems to be Che Guevara's face on Napoleon's body, so I guess she's planning her come back on a wave of anti-EU lies and propaganda.

ETA: Someone's tracked down the original portrait & it's Nelson not Napoleon, so "The Left Are Stealing Our History" Culture War Bollox rater than EU.

Carrot Flower King · 5th February 2023, 04:37 AM

Shock! Horror! BlowJob was lying! Who'd'a'thunk it?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ing-permission

Darat · 5th February 2023, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

Shock! Horror! BlowJob was lying! Who'd'a'thunk it?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ing-permission

In Johnson terms that’s almost the gospel truth, that any have full planning permission is a surprise to me!

Mojo · 5th February 2023, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277

I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate.

To quote the poster in a cartoon on p. 15 of this week's Private Eye:

Quote:

CARELESS, NOT DELIBERATE.

VOTE CONSERVATIVE

Gulliver Foyle · 5th February 2023, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

Shock! Horror! BlowJob was lying! Who'd'a'thunk it?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ing-permission

Given that only eight of them were actual new hospitals and most of the rest were refurbishments already sanctioned, I'm surprised they needed ten planning applications.

P.J. Denyer · 6th February 2023, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle

Given that only eight of them were actual new hospitals and most of the rest were refurbishments already sanctioned, I'm surprised they needed ten planning applications.

Given this government's record of competence & lawfulness I'm amazed any of them thought/bothered with little things like planning.

Carrot Flower King · 6th February 2023, 06:25 AM

Truss still can't face up to how wrong she was and continues to tell lies about her visit to 10 Downing Street - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...omy-misleading

What is this "mandate" she writes about? She didn't have a "mandate" and has certainly never done anything worthy of anything close to respect.

It really is a good thing that Brenda's death stopped Truss from trying to do anything else: there were enough screw ups if the couple of weeks she did have to "do" anything.

Nessie · 6th February 2023, 08:03 AM

Truss saw Matt Hancock make a reasonable attempt at rehabilitating his image, finishing 3rd in "I'm a celebrity..." and rewriting history in his memoire and thought, well if he can do it....

Darat · 6th February 2023, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

Truss still can't face up to how wrong she was and continues to tell lies about her visit to 10 Downing Street - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...omy-misleading

What is this "mandate" she writes about? She didn't have a "mandate" and has certainly never done anything worthy of anything close to respect.

It really is a good thing that Brenda's death stopped Truss from trying to do anything else: there were enough screw ups if the couple of weeks she did have to "do" anything.

Hang on a moment - you mean these pessimistic experts didn't give her advice, why I can't believe that given her love of experts, they must have been hiding from her.

jimbob · 6th February 2023, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

Truss still can't face up to how wrong she was and continues to tell lies about her visit to 10 Downing Street - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...omy-misleading

What is this "mandate" she writes about? She didn't have a "mandate" and has certainly never done anything worthy of anything close to respect.

It really is a good thing that Brenda's death stopped Truss from trying to do anything else: there were enough screw ups if the couple of weeks she did have to "do" anything.

I'm cheering her on.

The more she draws attention to her mandate and how it was a tiny fraction of the country that had a say and that one cannot trust the Tory party to not chose a deranged PM midway through a Parliament the better.

Carrot Flower King · 6th February 2023, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Nessie

Truss saw Matt Hancock make a reasonable attempt at rehabilitating his image, finishing 3rd in "I'm a celebrity..." and rewriting history in his memoire and thought, well if he can do it....

You use the "T" word in the context of Truss: do we have any evidence that this is actually possible?

Carrot Flower King · 6th February 2023, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by jimbob

I'm cheering her on.

The more she draws attention to her mandate and how it was a tiny fraction of the country that had a say and that one cannot trust the Tory party to not chose a deranged PM midway through a Parliament the better.

Good point.

Heard some of her interview with Balls and Nelson of The Spectator on PM just now, in which she continued to come across as somewhere between deranged and unhinged, definitely somewhat Dagenham, if not outright Upminster.

Wudang · 6th February 2023, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

You use the "T" word in the context of Truss: do we have any evidence that this is actually possible?

A Scottish phrase I think I've used here before "Her heid's full o wee motors"

Carrot Flower King · 6th February 2023, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Wudang

A Scottish phrase I think I've used here before "Her heid's full o wee motors"

I like that one and will steal it.

Nessie · 7th February 2023, 07:32 AM

https://twitter.com/Conservatives/st...52191316135936

"Welcome @LeeAndersonMP_
- our new Deputy Chairman of the @Conservatives"

jimbob · 7th February 2023, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by Nessie

https://twitter.com/Conservatives/st...52191316135936

"Welcome @LeeAndersonMP_
- our new Deputy Chairman of the @Conservatives"

To quote Dan Kaszeta* on Twitter

Quote:

Bejeebus. They're just passing out bottles of meths in the cockpit of the Hindenburg.

*A bloke with a highly unconventional CV.

US Army - Chemical Corps
US Secret Service
Verger at St Martin's in the Fields
Fellow at RUSI and Liveryman of London

He also photographs himself bravely eating charcuterie and drinking alcohol in nice pubs/bars/cafés etc in so called Sharia law zones in London.

Darat · 7th February 2023, 07:55 AM

On Tweet: Lee Anderson OBE - Out Before Easter

ETA: A bit of background on Anderson: https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...erson-has-done

Note - not the BBC....

ETA1: And I am certain Sunak has never heard about any of that!

The Don · 7th February 2023, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Nessie

https://twitter.com/Conservatives/st...52191316135936

"Welcome @LeeAndersonMP_
- our new Deputy Chairman of the @Conservatives"

If there was ever any doubt of the Conservatives' intention to follow the Republican Party down the right wing, conspiracy theorist, white supremacist rabbit hole.

The Don · 7th February 2023, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

On Tweet: Lee Anderson OBE - Out Before Easter

ETA: A bit of background on Anderson: https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...erson-has-done

Note - not the BBC....

ETA1: And I am certain Sunak has never heard about any of that!

Dog whistles are notoriously difficult for people with excess melanin to hear.

Carrot Flower King · 7th February 2023, 09:29 AM

Lee ******* Anderson?????!!!!!!?????

Sunak really is gaslighting the country now.

Mojo · 7th February 2023, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Darat

On Tweet: Lee Anderson OBE - Out Before Easter

ETA: A bit of background on Anderson: https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...erson-has-done

Note - not the BBC....

ETA1: And I am certain Sunak has never heard about any of that!

See also: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...oversy-machine

Carrot Flower King · 8th February 2023, 07:52 AM

Surprise, surprise - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...expenses-fraud

Carrot Flower King · 8th February 2023, 11:30 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...yment-speeches

Now, remind me why we are paying this twunt £115k a year over and above his £84k MP salary, which he isn't actually earning as he's never here?

KDLarsen · 8th February 2023, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...yment-speeches

Now, remind me why we are paying this twunt £115k a year over and above his £84k MP salary, which he isn't actually earning as he's never here?

Hell, how financially incompetent must one be to rake in that kind of monery, and still having to go cap in hand to his Brexiteer sugar daddy for a place to live?

dudalb · 8th February 2023, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

Surprise, surprise - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...expenses-fraud

The Uk Parliament's answer to George Santos......

GlennB · 8th February 2023, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by KDLarsen

Hell, how financially incompetent must one be to rake in that kind of monery, and still having to go cap in hand to his Brexiteer sugar daddy for a place to live?

In his world this is the exact opposite of incompetence. He's raking in the dosh by the millions! Result!!

The Don · 8th February 2023, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by KDLarsen

Hell, how financially incompetent must one be to rake in that kind of monery, and still having to go cap in hand to his Brexiteer sugar daddy for a place to live?

You don't get rich spending your own money

P.J. Denyer · 9th February 2023, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

You don't get rich spending your own money

Supposedly the only thing more notorious than the depth of Bozo's pockets is the shortness of his arms.

Darat · 9th February 2023, 02:33 AM

His family was originally from Yorkshire - didn't know that.

The Don · 9th February 2023, 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

His family was originally from Yorkshire - didn't know that.

Darat, you're better than that.

I'm not even a Yorkshireman and I find that offensive.

Darat · 9th February 2023, 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Darat, you're better than that.

I'm not even a Yorkshireman and I find that offensive.

Yeah - you are right shouldn't insult Yorkshire folk like that!

The Don · 9th February 2023, 04:08 AM

The new Conservative deputy chairman is expressing views which IMO would be very popular among the members, but where the leadership don't want it said out loud:

Quote:

The new deputy chairman of the Conservative Party, Lee Anderson, has said he would support the return of the death penalty.

In an interview with the Spectator before he was appointed to the role, he argued "nobody has ever committed a crime after being executed".

The Tory Party said his position was not the view of the government.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64580487

IMO the Tory leadership are happy with these views being expressed, they allow both sides to be played against each other.

I'd remind Lee Anderson that nobody has gone on to live a full life after being wrongfully convicted and executed.

3point14 · 9th February 2023, 04:44 AM

No-one ever dodged tax or misused public funds after being executed either.

I'm not advocating anything, I'm just saying...

Darat · 9th February 2023, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

The new Conservative deputy chairman is expressing views which IMO would be very popular among the members, but where the leadership don't want it said out loud:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64580487

IMO the Tory leadership are happy with these views being expressed, they allow both sides to be played against each other.

I'd remind Lee Anderson that nobody has gone on to live a full life after being wrongfully convicted and executed.

It is quite strange when you have to consider both the current and the previous but one PMs are criminals that he wants to associate with them.

Wudang · 9th February 2023, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by 3point14

No-one ever dodged tax or misused public funds after being executed either.

I'm not advocating anything, I'm just saying...

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Gulliver Foyle · 9th February 2023, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

The new Conservative deputy chairman is expressing views which IMO would be very popular among the members, but where the leadership don't want it said out loud:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64580487

IMO the Tory leadership are happy with these views being expressed, they allow both sides to be played against each other.

I'd remind Lee Anderson that nobody has gone on to live a full life after being wrongfully convicted and executed.

After reading Mr Anderson's words I move that being a tory party politician should become the capital crime. See how long he's in favour of the death penalty then.

4th February 2023, 01:33 PM	#2282
Garrison Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 5,913	Originally Posted by The Don Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277 I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate. He's a man who has no clue how the world works for most people and blithely assumes that if his wealthy friends are doing okay everything is fine.
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5th February 2023, 03:08 AM	#2285
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,001	Truss has/is the subject of an article in the Torygraph today (haven't seen the actual article so it could be either), the accompanying photo is interesting, she's posing next to a picture that seems to be Che Guevara's face on Napoleon's body, so I guess she's planning her come back on a wave of anti-EU lies and propaganda. ETA: Someone's tracked down the original portrait & it's Nelson not Napoleon, so "The Left Are Stealing Our History" Culture War Bollox rater than EU.
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5th February 2023, 04:56 AM	#2287
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 108,048	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King Shock! Horror! BlowJob was lying! Who'd'a'thunk it? https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ing-permission In Johnson terms that’s almost the gospel truth, that any have full planning permission is a surprise to me!
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5th February 2023, 07:27 AM	#2288
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 36,846	Originally Posted by The Don Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277 I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate. To quote the poster in a cartoon on p. 15 of this week's Private Eye: Quote: CARELESS, NOT DELIBERATE. VOTE CONSERVATIVE
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6th February 2023, 02:37 AM	#2290
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,001	Originally Posted by Gulliver Foyle Given that only eight of them were actual new hospitals and most of the rest were refurbishments already sanctioned, I'm surprised they needed ten planning applications. Given this government's record of competence & lawfulness I'm amazed any of them thought/bothered with little things like planning.
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4th February 2023, 09:28 AM	#2281
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,330	Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277 I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate.

4th February 2023, 11:40 PM	#2283
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,330	Liz Truss claims the omnishambles wasn't her fault and her policies were sound. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64527252 This wouldn't be worrying, just a failed politician whining except that it's in a major newspaper and so presumably these failed policies will continue to be promoted. She also claims that she was hampered by a left wing establishment - a deep state if you will. If she considers the establishment to be left wing that's a clear indication of what a right wing nutjob she is iMO. Very Trumpist rhetoric.

5th February 2023, 01:00 AM	#2284
Gulliver Foyle Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 1,280	Originally Posted by The Don Looks like Liz Truss is attempting a comeback by attempting to cast Sunak as a TINO. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64523277 I suppose she's right. Most of his cruelty is because he doesn't care about the little people and isn't necessarily deliberate. She should know, most of her cruelty stems from the same source. Liz Truss: too stupid to not critcise others for traits she displays even worse.

5th February 2023, 04:37 AM	#2286
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,606	Shock! Horror! BlowJob was lying! Who'd'a'thunk it? https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ing-permission

5th February 2023, 08:44 AM	#2289
Gulliver Foyle Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Cork baaaiii Posts: 1,280	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King Shock! Horror! BlowJob was lying! Who'd'a'thunk it? https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ing-permission Given that only eight of them were actual new hospitals and most of the rest were refurbishments already sanctioned, I'm surprised they needed ten planning applications.

6th February 2023, 06:25 AM	#2291
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,606	Truss still can't face up to how wrong she was and continues to tell lies about her visit to 10 Downing Street - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...omy-misleading What is this "mandate" she writes about? She didn't have a "mandate" and has certainly never done anything worthy of anything close to respect. It really is a good thing that Brenda's death stopped Truss from trying to do anything else: there were enough screw ups if the couple of weeks she did have to "do" anything.

6th February 2023, 08:03 AM	#2292
Nessie Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 14,319	Truss saw Matt Hancock make a reasonable attempt at rehabilitating his image, finishing 3rd in "I'm a celebrity..." and rewriting history in his memoire and thought, well if he can do it....
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6th February 2023, 08:23 AM	#2293
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 108,048	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King Truss still can't face up to how wrong she was and continues to tell lies about her visit to 10 Downing Street - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...omy-misleading What is this "mandate" she writes about? She didn't have a "mandate" and has certainly never done anything worthy of anything close to respect. It really is a good thing that Brenda's death stopped Truss from trying to do anything else: there were enough screw ups if the couple of weeks she did have to "do" anything. Hang on a moment - you mean these pessimistic experts didn't give her advice, why I can't believe that given her love of experts, they must have been hiding from her.
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6th February 2023, 08:27 AM	#2294
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 29,186	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King Truss still can't face up to how wrong she was and continues to tell lies about her visit to 10 Downing Street - https://www.theguardian.com/politics...omy-misleading What is this "mandate" she writes about? She didn't have a "mandate" and has certainly never done anything worthy of anything close to respect. It really is a good thing that Brenda's death stopped Truss from trying to do anything else: there were enough screw ups if the couple of weeks she did have to "do" anything. I'm cheering her on. The more she draws attention to her mandate and how it was a tiny fraction of the country that had a say and that one cannot trust the Tory party to not chose a deranged PM midway through a Parliament the better.
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6th February 2023, 11:00 AM	#2295
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,606	Originally Posted by Nessie Truss saw Matt Hancock make a reasonable attempt at rehabilitating his image, finishing 3rd in "I'm a celebrity..." and rewriting history in his memoire and *thought*, well if he can do it.... You use the "T" word in the context of Truss: do we have any evidence that this is actually possible?

6th February 2023, 11:03 AM	#2296
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,606	Originally Posted by jimbob I'm cheering her on. The more she draws attention to her mandate and how it was a tiny fraction of the country that had a say and that one cannot trust the Tory party to not chose a deranged PM midway through a Parliament the better. Good point. Heard some of her interview with Balls and Nelson of The Spectator on PM just now, in which she continued to come across as somewhere between deranged and unhinged, definitely somewhat Dagenham, if not outright Upminster.

6th February 2023, 11:22 AM	#2297
Wudang BOFH Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: People's Republic of South Yorkshire Posts: 15,309	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King You use the "T" word in the context of Truss: do we have any evidence that this is actually possible? A Scottish phrase I think I've used here before "Her heid's full o wee motors"
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6th February 2023, 12:05 PM	#2298
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,606	Originally Posted by Wudang A Scottish phrase I think I've used here before "Her heid's full o wee motors" I like that one and will steal it.

7th February 2023, 07:32 AM	#2299
Nessie Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 14,319	https://twitter.com/Conservatives/st...52191316135936 "Welcome @LeeAndersonMP_ - our new Deputy Chairman of the @Conservatives"
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7th February 2023, 07:41 AM	#2300
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 29,186	Originally Posted by Nessie https://twitter.com/Conservatives/st...52191316135936 "Welcome @LeeAndersonMP_ - our new Deputy Chairman of the @Conservatives" To quote Dan Kaszeta* on Twitter Quote: Bejeebus. They're just passing out bottles of meths in the cockpit of the Hindenburg. *A bloke with a highly unconventional CV. US Army - Chemical Corps US Secret Service Verger at St Martin's in the Fields Fellow at RUSI and Liveryman of London He also photographs himself bravely eating charcuterie and drinking alcohol in nice pubs/bars/cafés etc in so called Sharia law zones in London.
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7th February 2023, 07:55 AM	#2301
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 108,048	On Tweet: Lee Anderson OBE - Out Before Easter ETA: A bit of background on Anderson: https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...erson-has-done Note - not the BBC.... ETA1: And I am certain Sunak has never heard about any of that!
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7th February 2023, 08:06 AM	#2302
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,330	Originally Posted by Nessie https://twitter.com/Conservatives/st...52191316135936 "Welcome @LeeAndersonMP_ - our new Deputy Chairman of the @Conservatives" If there was ever any doubt of the Conservatives' intention to follow the Republican Party down the right wing, conspiracy theorist, white supremacist rabbit hole.

7th February 2023, 08:08 AM	#2303
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,330	Originally Posted by Darat On Tweet: Lee Anderson OBE - Out Before Easter ETA: A bit of background on Anderson: https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...erson-has-done Note - not the BBC.... ETA1: And I am certain Sunak has never heard about any of that! Dog whistles are notoriously difficult for people with excess melanin to hear.

7th February 2023, 09:29 AM	#2304
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,606	Lee ******* Anderson?????!!!!!!????? Sunak really is gaslighting the country now.

7th February 2023, 12:40 PM	#2305
Mojo Mostly harmless Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nor Flanden Posts: 36,846	Originally Posted by Darat On Tweet: Lee Anderson OBE - Out Before Easter ETA: A bit of background on Anderson: https://www.itv.com/news/central/202...erson-has-done Note - not the BBC.... ETA1: And I am certain Sunak has never heard about any of that! See also: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...oversy-machine
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8th February 2023, 07:52 AM	#2306
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,606	Surprise, surprise - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...expenses-fraud

8th February 2023, 11:30 AM	#2307
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,606	https://www.theguardian.com/politics...yment-speeches Now, remind me why we are paying this twunt £115k a year over and above his £84k MP salary, which he isn't actually earning as he's never here?

8th February 2023, 03:39 PM	#2308
KDLarsen Illuminator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,854	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King https://www.theguardian.com/politics...yment-speeches Now, remind me why we are paying this twunt £115k a year over and above his £84k MP salary, which he isn't actually earning as he's never here? Hell, how financially incompetent must one be to rake in that kind of monery, and still having to go cap in hand to his Brexiteer sugar daddy for a place to live?
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8th February 2023, 04:57 PM	#2309
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 57,715	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King Surprise, surprise - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...expenses-fraud The Uk Parliament's answer to George Santos......
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8th February 2023, 05:09 PM	#2310
GlennB Loggerheaded, earth-vexing fustilarian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 29,282	Originally Posted by KDLarsen Hell, how financially incompetent must one be to rake in that kind of monery, and still having to go cap in hand to his Brexiteer sugar daddy for a place to live? In his world this is the exact opposite of incompetence. He's raking in the dosh by the millions! Result!!

8th February 2023, 11:59 PM	#2311
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,330	Originally Posted by KDLarsen Hell, how financially incompetent must one be to rake in that kind of monery, and still having to go cap in hand to his Brexiteer sugar daddy for a place to live? You don't get rich spending your own money

9th February 2023, 02:30 AM	#2312
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,001	Originally Posted by The Don You don't get rich spending your own money Supposedly the only thing more notorious than the depth of Bozo's pockets is the shortness of his arms.
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9th February 2023, 02:33 AM	#2313
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 108,048	His family was originally from Yorkshire - didn't know that.
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9th February 2023, 02:34 AM	#2314
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,330	Originally Posted by Darat His family was originally from Yorkshire - didn't know that. Darat, you're better than that. I'm not even a Yorkshireman and I find that offensive.

9th February 2023, 02:41 AM	#2315
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 108,048	Originally Posted by The Don Darat, you're better than that. I'm not even a Yorkshireman and I find that offensive. Yeah - you are right shouldn't insult Yorkshire folk like that!
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