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Old 13th March 2018, 09:22 AM   #441
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
An Aging Porn Star, running for election and a billionaire, wonder why they hooked up?
Yes, I wonder why. Has she said why?

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Just reading the reviews and putting two and two together.
I don't understand your connected dots. You suggest he is bisexual because Stormy brought in a guy for a bi threesome, or what?
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Old 13th March 2018, 09:24 AM   #442
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I do not want to hear a Republican ever accuse a Democrat of being unfit for public office for moral or ethical reasons again. Just don't.
Hah. Like they have any sense of shame.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
you are totally missing the point.
Well, I'm certain the contract is valid.

What I'm not certain about is why it matters anymore.

We all now know that Trump slept with a porn star ~12 years ago, and entered into a sort of NDA about it within days of the election.

Once you tell me you paid a porn star $130K to keep quiet, I pretty much already know the whole story.

I think Trump doesn't care if Clifford talks.

I think Trump's lawyers/advisers are far more concerned than Trump.
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Old 13th March 2018, 09:25 AM   #444
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
"Looks like Trump did not need to sign it?" = "I'm not sure that Trump did not
need to sign it."

It wasn't that deep.
Just Asking Questions then. OK.
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Well, I'm certain the contract is valid.
Is that your interpretation as a legal expert ?
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Old 13th March 2018, 09:28 AM   #445
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
An Aging Porn Star, running for election and a billionaire, wonder why they hooked up?
Clifford was 26 years old and hot as a firecracker when the affair took place.
Trump was 59.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
There is a passage in the settlement that almost certainly makes it invalid:

Section 8.2:


It is extremely legally questionable to go jurisdiction-shopping after a dispute has occurred, and not put it into the original contract. And it is extremely unfair to allow only one of the parties to do so.

I have no doubt that this settlement will be overturned in any court of law.
Neither has Clifford's lawyer.
Cool story bro, but that is not the jurisdictional provision. The jurisdiction here is in Arbitration. That is what we call a "choice of law" provision. If it is invalid (and it is not) the arbitrator will simply settle the dispute about which's State's law should apply. Easy peasy.
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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis View Post
Just Asking Questions then. OK.


Is that your interpretation as a legal expert ?
I can't recall claiming any such expertise.
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Old 13th March 2018, 09:33 AM   #448
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Yes, I wonder why. Has she said why?
Yes.

She wanted to get in on The Apprentice.
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Old 13th March 2018, 09:35 AM   #449
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
I have to wonder what kept Clifford silent all those months earlier?
She only started to speak about it after Cohen admitted paying, and paying it out of his own pocket. The timeline as documented on wiki says that first, the WSJ broke the story on 12 JAN; then on 16 JAN, CNN reported on a not-published Fox article from 2016, and In Touch Weekly re-published excerpts of a 2011 interview. On 30 JAN, Cohen produced a denial statement from Stormy which she denied having written; and on 13 FEB, Cohen admitted to paying out of his own pocket, to which she responded that he violated the agreement.

It sounds very much to me that Cohen painted a big bulls eye on himself with his actions.
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Originally Posted by d4m10n View Post
She's actually a dude? Had me fooled.
Well there are 4 other people named in the settlement, her photographer and manager and two who have not been positively identified.
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They call it Stormy Monday
But Tuesday's just as bad
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She only started to speak about it after Cohen admitted paying, and paying it out of his own pocket. The timeline as documented on wiki says that first, the WSJ broke the story on 12 JAN; then on 16 JAN, CNN reported on a not-published Fox article from 2016, and In Touch Weekly re-published excerpts of a 2011 interview. On 30 JAN, Cohen produced a denial statement from Stormy which she denied having written; and on 13 FEB, Cohen admitted to paying out of his own pocket, to which she responded that he violated the agreement.

It sounds very much to me that Cohen painted a big bulls eye on himself with his actions.
Well, she spoke about it in 2011 at least.

Trump announces his run in mid-2015, she was under no NDA until late 2016, more than a year during which she could have sold her story for a lot of $.

Far more than $130K, imo.
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Originally Posted by varwoche View Post
They call it Stormy Monday
But Tuesday's just as bad
Just heard the BB King version yesterday...
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
Well, she spoke about it in 2011 at least.

Trump announces his run in mid-2015, she was under no NDA until late 2016, more than a year during which she could have sold her story for a lot of $.

Far more than $130K, imo.

She did indeed sell the story to a paper...that is owned by a friend of Trump's and they buried it.
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She did indeed sell the story to a paper...that is owned by a friend of Trump's and they buried it.
Wrong porn star. That was playboy Bunny Karren McDougal.

But really Trump cheating on his wife, why would anyone think that would have been a big serious story given all the other crap that Republicans didn't care about. The 130K might well have been the most it would have ever been worth, until that illegal campaign contribution was made.
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Yes.

She wanted to get in on The Apprentice.
She manipulated and wielded her power over him just to get on that show? I thought it was a stupid TV program.
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Yes, I wonder why. Has she said why?


I don't understand your connected dots. You suggest he is bisexual because Stormy brought in a guy for a bi threesome, or what?
Her most notable work was the 2003 Film All Anal could be she started something new for Trump remember Evangelicals consider Anal to lead to becoming Homosexual. This leads to the possibility of Trump possibly hooking up with men as well as women. Something Trump would never want revealed so he would do anything to keep it Quiet.
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Yes.

She wanted to get in on The Apprentice.
At least a real prostitute gets paid for services rendered. All Stormy got was promises of pay -- a condo in Trump Tower, appearing in The Apprentice. Which of course is par for the Trump course.
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Clifford was 26 years old and hot as a firecracker when the affair took place.
Trump was 59.
26 is near retirement age for a porn star, 18-25 they earn the most per movie.
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Her most notable work was the 2003 Film All Anal could be she started something new for Trump remember Evangelicals consider Anal to lead to becoming Homosexual. This leads to the possibility of Trump possibly hooking up with men as well as women. Something Trump would never want revealed so he would do anything to keep it Quiet.
Oh.

He put his thingee in my poopy hole so therefore he puts it in men too for sure.

There are probably about three people in the world that would buy that reasoning.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
Her most notable work was the 2003 Film All Anal could be she started something new for Trump remember Evangelicals consider Anal to lead to becoming Homosexual. This leads to the possibility of Trump possibly hooking up with men as well as women. Something Trump would never want revealed so he would do anything to keep it Quiet.
So I guess the message is:

Trump is now doing to the world what Trump did to Stormy and that Stormy has done to quite a few other people as well.



By the way, until Trump became the president, I never thought that I would be making butt sex jokes about the president.
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Oh.

He put his thingee in my poopy hole so therefore he puts it in men too for sure.

There are probably about three people in the world that would buy that reasoning.
Doesn't matter Evangelicals want a law where men can't have Anal sex With women,
That is one of their long term goals to ban abortion and Sodomy.
The ultimate goal is a goddly nation, you know return to the dark ages.
Actually Anal is Anal and Trump appears to be a sex addict.
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She manipulated and wielded her power over him just to get on that show? I thought it was a stupid TV program.
She has been working in the porn business for ages: sleeping with a producer isn't unusual.
It was a quid-pro-quo that Trump didn't honor.
How, exactly, makes that Trump a victim?
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Doesn't matter Evangelicals want a law where men can't have Anal sex With women,
That is one of their long term goals to ban abortion and Sodomy.
The ultimate goal is a goddly nation, you know return to the dark ages.
Actually Anal is Anal and Trump appears to be a sex addict.
I never really get free verse.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
How, exactly, makes that Trump a victim?
Not sure that I understand your question.
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Not sure that I understand your question.
You suggested manipulation and power that Clifford had over Trump - a man famous for divorces and affairs.
I think your narrative is faulty.
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So I guess the message is:

Trump is now doing to the world what Trump did to Stormy and that Stormy has done to quite a few other people as well.



By the way, until Trump became the president, I never thought that I would be making butt sex joke about the president.
Never thought I would either I guess only Putin new about it.
Just seems so right he would know, with the name that sounds like a term for a methane expulsion from the rectum.
Wonder what Lincoln would have thought about the evolution of his party?
You just can't make this up.
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You suggested manipulation and power that Clifford had over Trump - a man famous for divorces and affairs.
I think your narrative is faulty.
She had something that he wanted very badly.
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I can't recall claiming any such expertise.
So you are basing your certainty on ... your non-expert opinion ?
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She had something that he wanted very badly.
And she gave it up - he didn't.

Sorry, but your view of the power balance in this case is not at all plausible.
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And she gave it up - he didn't.

Sorry, but your view of the power balance in this case is not at all plausible.
Maybe I misunderstood. I thought she got something out of the affair.
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Maybe I misunderstood. I thought she got something out of the affair.
As far as we know, she didn't get anything.
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As far as we know, she didn't get anything.
10.000 for the night was the offer to other girls that were there.
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As far as we know, she didn't get anything.
So she thought that giving up some sex to Trump was going to get her on The Apprentice but she wasn't placed on the show?
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Maybe I misunderstood. I thought she got something out of the affair.
Trump favours bareback riding, apparently, so she quite possibly did.
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So she thought that giving up some sex to Trump was going to get her on The Apprentice but she wasn't placed on the show?
No, she wasn't.
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No, she wasn't.
Did Trump tell her it would happen in exchange for the sex, but then just didn't do it?
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Did Trump tell her it would happen in exchange for the sex, but then just didn't do it?
Yes.


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"Yes" = So says her friend who supposedly listened in on the calls.

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Munyan, a friend of Daniels who is listed as knowing about the allegations in the $130,000 hush agreement she signed before the 2016 presidential election, told The Daily Beast he listened to phone calls between the pair at the time.
We've got a porn star suing the President. Her career has exploded and she is making a ton of money from this. She herself says it's the best she's ever done (duh).

That is called bias, people. What she and her friends say at this point can be taken with a grain of salt because she is making a lot of cash now.

I'm pretty sure he slept with her (again duh) but that doesn't mean all of it is true. Example: did he actually say "yes you will absolutely be on The Apprentice", or did he maybe not say that at all? Something in between? If so, what does it matter anyways?

It just shows what her true intentions were - to use Trump for his money just as she is doing now. Did she not know Trump was married? Did Trump force himself upon her? They used each other and that's perfectly fine.

She's a scumbag and her word is meaningless. Good thing for her Trump is dumb and didn't cover his tracks, in fact he laid them out for people to follow.

I think Trump should come clean and steal her thunder. "Ya I ********** her and a bunch of others, now go home and get a life. Too little too late. I'm President now, blow me"
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I think Trump should come clean and steal her thunder. "Ya I ********** her and a bunch of others, now go home and get a life. Too little too late. I'm President now, blow me"
Well, Trump does have a wife who might not take kindly to this sentiment.
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