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Old 12th March 2018, 01:03 PM   #3641
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Astronomers discover two bright high-redshift quasars

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-astr...t-quasars.html

Galaxys born inside to outside!


"Tuxford - 3 hours ago
They are the most luminous and most distant, compact objects in the observable universe.

...to conclude that quasars identified by ATLAS survey are close to having some of the most massive black holes so far discovered.

So let's help the intellectually poor cosmologists figure this out just by applying a bit of logic. Quasars are nearly always very distant, as measured by accepted red shift interpretation. And Quasars are always extremely massive.

So....distance measured is related to mass observed. What can cause such a relation, where logically such objects should be evenly spread throughout the universe and NOT just closer to the fabled beginning where they have had much less time to grow so massive? Well...if red shift is related to gravity, then light climbing out of a massive object will appear distant. Simple really, but so much more difficult for the irrationally rational training physical scientist to figure out. There brains are really rigid, frozen."

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Old 12th March 2018, 01:11 PM   #3642
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Thumbs down A lie that pulling forces (gravity, etc..) have not been measured

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
No you dont measure pulling force
A lie from a Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie that there are no observsions for expanding space when there is Hubble's law, etc..
+ an irrational demand for the impossible (that we measure the curvature od spacetime directly).
+ a lie that Newton did not explain gravity (he refused to assign a cause) when it was Einstein that explained gravity.
+ a lie that pulling forces (gravity, etc..) have not been measured.
Children have been pulling toys with strings for thousands of years.
People have been picking iron up with magnets for thousands of years.
The pulling force between unlike charges has been measured for a couple of centuries now.
The pulling force of gravity between bodies has been measured for a couple of centuries (Cavendish experiment 1797–1798) and today to high accuracy and small distance by the Eöt-Wash Group.
etc. etc.

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Old 12th March 2018, 01:12 PM   #3643
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
I thought about what type of space and could be concluded that any of which moves relative to the other and thereby changes because of its separate parts move relative to each other need "behind" the place where the movement takes place.

And since this place itself is no longer in any of the places under its own, it itself can not consist of separate parts that move relative to one another at some point in the background.
Others have thought more and more formally about it then you. Bernhard Riemann showed that a curved space doesn't have to be embedded in some higher dimensional space in order to be curved or for that geometry to change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Riemann

That means no "behind" or "background" is required.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_curvature_tensor

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It is a central mathematical tool in the theory of general relativity, the modern theory of gravity, and the curvature of spacetime is in principle observable via the geodesic deviation equation. The curvature tensor represents the tidal force experienced by a rigid body moving along a geodesic in a sense made precise by the Jacobi equation.


Tidal forces are the differences in gravitational forces that tend to pull things apart.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_force


Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
When this understands, understand that space itself is nothing.
Again this give you problems as your "all nucleus of atoms expanding and recycling expanding pushing force" by your own assertions is "expanding" into, well, just "nothing". Above you seem to require that space expand into something "behind" and in a "background" , perhaps some higher dimensional space. However, by making space "nothing" (not even just locations) you remove that requirement as well as any locations for your own expanding whatever to expand into. Again space as "nothing", not even locations, contradicts your own stated requirements.

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And when this understands, understand that such a space can not end.
Still the same problem as before as "nothing" simply can't end exactly because it doesn't even start. It is nothing not even a single location to ascribe as just even an arbitrary starting point.

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
When it itself has nothing, it automatically continues in every direction to infinity.
And here we are again "directions" aren't "nothing" they are at least, well directions. If they are independent or orthogonal directions then they also have defined relations to each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality

So here we are back again at your same dilemma, you want to simply claim space as "nothing" and "infinity" when the smallest infinity is countably infinite.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_set

Your own assertions above and before require your space to be at least something (locations) your "all nucleus of atoms expanding and recycling expanding pushing force" can expand into.

So in spite of your first assertions on the post quoted above you have not actually thought about any of this. Not even just in the terms and requirements of your own assertions and notions.


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Olen pohtinut millainen avaruus voisi olla ja päätynyt siihen että mikä tahansa mikä liikkuu suhteessa muihin kohteisiin ja mikä muuttuu koska sen erilliset osat liikkuvat suhteessa toisiinsa, tarvitsee taustalleen paikan jossa liike tapahtuu.

Ja koska tämä paikka itse ei enää ole missään sen itsensä taustalla olevassa paikassa, se itse ei voi koostua erillisistä osista jotka liikkuisivat suhteessa toisiinsa jossakin taustapaikassa.

Kun tämän ymmärtää, ymmärtää että avaruus itsessään on ei yhtään mitään.

Ja kun tämän ymmärtää, ymmärtää ettei sellainen avaruus voi loppua.

Kun se itsessään on ei yhtään mitään, se automaattisesti jatkuu joka suuntaan äärettömiin.

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Old 12th March 2018, 01:23 PM   #3644
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
whether the universe's mode of operation is very simple or very complex


onko maailmankaikkeuden toimintatapa erittäin yksinkertainen vai erittäin monimutkainen.

It is very simple.

Surprising preference for simplicity found in common model

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-simplicity-common.html

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Very simple or very complex but not simply self-contradictory.

Again, please let us know when you can at least stop contradicting yourself in any language. Which would include just spamming articles that neither agree with your assertions or the claims you simply ascribe to them like...

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I thought about ...
We read no thought at all from a Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie that there are no observsions for expanding space when there is Hubble's law, etc..
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Old 12th March 2018, 01:28 PM   #3646
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A possible experiment to prove that gravity and quantum mechanics can be reconciled

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-grav...mechanics.html


"granville583762 - 3 hours ago
Proof gravity is a particle, when a quark attracts another quark the force on the quark is in the direction the graviton was going when it interacts with the quark. The force is in the direction the quark was going when it emitted the graviton. There is no force on the emitting quark, the force is only on the receiving quark, so there's goes Isaac Newton's 3rd law there's no equal and opposite reaction on the emitting quark. I'm surprised nobody has taken this vital up point up seeing as gravity interacts in the quantum world. For a force that operates in the quantum world, there appears to be very little research being carried out. Theoretical mathematics is not research proved by the anomaly of Newton's 3rd."

Quarks can only pushing each other away same way what quarks expanding and that happening with expanding pushing force what expanding quarks recycling together.

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Old 12th March 2018, 01:31 PM   #3647
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A delusion that Surprising preference for simplicity found in common model supports his ignorant fantasies. These are 3 working mathematical models with a common mathematical property.
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Thumbs down Usual lies and idiocy about 2 bright high-redshift quasars

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
Astronomers discover two bright high-redshift quasars

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-astr...t-quasars.html
Usual lies and idiocy about 2 bright high-redshift quasars from a Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie that there are no observsions for expanding space when there is Hubble's law, etc..
The idiocy is quoting a deluded ("intellectually poor cosmologists ") comment in a blog not about his delusions.
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
A possible experiment to prove that gravity and quantum mechanics can be reconciled

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-grav...mechanics.html
Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie of no observsions for expanding space, an irrational demand for the impossible, a lie that Newton did not explain gravity, a lie that pulling forces have not been measured.
+ the repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs.

This case is insane gibberish about quarks and gravitons + his quark delusions

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Old 12th March 2018, 01:59 PM   #3650
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"Impulse is the change in momentum caused by a new force: this force will increase or decrease the momentum depending on the direction of the force; towards or away from the object that was moving before. If the new force (N) is going in the direction of the momentum of the object (x), the momentum of x will increase; therefore if N is going towards object x in the opposite direction, x will slow down and its momentum will decrease.

Law of conservation of momentum Edit
In understanding conservation of momentum, the direction of the momentum is important. Momentum in a system is added up using vector addition. Under the rules of vector addition, adding a certain amount of momentum together with the same amount of momentum going in the opposite direction gives a total momentum of zero.

For instance, when a gun is fired, a small mass (the bullet) moves at a high speed in one direction. A larger mass (the gun) moves in the opposite direction at a much slower speed. The momentum of the bullet and the momentum of the gun are exactly equal in size but opposite in direction. Using vector addition to add the momentum of the bullet to the momentum of the gun (equal in size but opposite in direction) gives a total system momentum of zero. The momentum of the gun-bullet system has been conserved."

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum

For instance, when a quark is fired, a small mass (the gluon) moves at a high speed in one direction. A larger mass (the quark) moves in the opposite direction at a much slower speed.

Well, what happening for other quark when gluon collide with that?

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Old 12th March 2018, 04:15 PM   #3651
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
"Impulse is the change in momentum caused by a new force: this force will increase or decrease the momentum depending on the direction of the force; towards or away from the object that was moving before. If the new force (N) is going in the direction of the momentum of the object (x), the momentum of x will increase; therefore if N is going towards object x in the opposite direction, x will slow down and its momentum will decrease.

Law of conservation of momentum Edit
In understanding conservation of momentum, the direction of the momentum is important. Momentum in a system is added up using vector addition. Under the rules of vector addition, adding a certain amount of momentum together with the same amount of momentum going in the opposite direction gives a total momentum of zero.

For instance, when a gun is fired, a small mass (the bullet) moves at a high speed in one direction. A larger mass (the gun) moves in the opposite direction at a much slower speed. The momentum of the bullet and the momentum of the gun are exactly equal in size but opposite in direction. Using vector addition to add the momentum of the bullet to the momentum of the gun (equal in size but opposite in direction) gives a total system momentum of zero. The momentum of the gun-bullet system has been conserved."

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum

For instance, when a quark is fired, a small mass (the gluon) moves at a high speed in one direction. A larger mass (the quark) moves in the opposite direction at a much slower speed.

Well, what happening for other quark when gluon collide with that?

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As asserted by the article you just quoted momentum is conserved, that's "what happening". In order to get any more specific than that would require the relevant details of the collision to be more specific.
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Ignorance abut quarks and gluons

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Just ignorance in this post !
Quarks do not emit a gluon or just when they are "fired".

For others:
Gluons are the virtual particles that glue quarks together to make hadrons such as protons and neutrons. There is a constant exchange of many gluons between each quark.

When the gluons are exchanged between quarks, there is a pulling force that holds quarks inside the hadron. This is similar to how virtual photons being exchanged between two opposite charges causes a pulling force and makes the charges attract each other.

This cannot be explained using classic mechanics (his momentum link) because these are quantum particles. This is especially true for virtual particles - these explicitly need not conserve energy/momentum.
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You think that mikrouniverse is total different that makrouniverse.

This is huge mistake.

It is not different.

Makrouniverse is just total different what you believe.

You believe something and dont understand that is illusion.

You dont need pulling force anywhere because nucleus of atoms expanding and recycling expanding pushing force which have a nature of dark expanding lightwaves, expanding electrons and nature of expanding photons etc.

Expanding light moving faster and faster same way what light and matter expanding.

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Old 13th March 2018, 12:31 AM   #3654
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Expanding nucleus of atoms..........how is that working to make muscles......you know........pull?
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Old 13th March 2018, 12:43 AM   #3655
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Expanding nucleus of atoms..........how is that working to make muscles......you know........pull?
You have get hole picture in your mind.

Yours body is zilions expanding nucleus of atoms which recycling expanding pushing force together.

So every other expanding nucleus of atoms controlled one expanding nucleus of atom place in you body with pushing force.

If expanding nucleus of atom moving little bit near next expanding nuclei, there is coming more expanding pushing force which push back.

There is nice video, but i speak finnish.

But idea is so easy that you can get a point if you just look video and think about what i already told for you.

https://youtu.be/xeWF5pHV7q8

So, you dont need pulling force, because expanding pushing force is enough.

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Tractor beam built from rings of laser light

https://www.newscientist.com/article...f-laser-light/

"Stand aside, Wesley Crusher: there’s a new tractor beam on deck that pulls objects using nothing more than laser light. The device has already grabbed NASA’s attention as it could one day prove useful on space missions."

Thats nice.

So, there is pulling force.

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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
You have get hole picture in your mind.

Yours body is zilions expanding nucleus of atoms which recycling expanding pushing force together.

So every other expanding nucleus of atoms controlled one expanding nucleus of atom place in you body with pushing force.

If expanding nucleus of atom moving little bit near next expanding nuclei, there is coming more expanding pushing force which push back.

There is nice video, but i speak finnish.

But idea is so easy that you can get a point if you just look video and think about what i already told for you.

https://youtu.be/xeWF5pHV7q8

So, you dont need pulling force, because expanding pushing force is enough.

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Again it doesn't work, an expanding "nucleus" get's less dense not pushed together. Even with your other "zilions expanding nucleus of atoms which recycling expanding pushing force together." If they are expanding and thus geting less dense then the aren't being pushed together. Trying to assert your other expanding "nucleus" push it together and thus keep it from expanding just means in your own assertion it just isn't expanding, regardless of the reason why. You contradict yourself again.

Again do please let us know when you can at least agree with just yourself, in any language.
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
You have get hole picture in your mind.

Yours body is zilions expanding nucleus of atoms which recycling expanding pushing force together.

So every other expanding nucleus of atoms controlled one expanding nucleus of atom place in you body with pushing force.

If expanding nucleus of atom moving little bit near next expanding nuclei, there is coming more expanding pushing force which push back.

There is nice video, but i speak finnish.

But idea is so easy that you can get a point if you just look video and think about what i already told for you.

https://youtu.be/xeWF5pHV7q8

So, you dont need pulling force, because expanding pushing force is enough.

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Where is this pushing force happening within muscles (which can only contract, remember)?

I've told you before, I don't do Youtube for science. If you've got some science, link me to an actual paper.
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What in gods name!? This thread is still ongoing!?

Ya know, I quit visiting this forum years ago. I quit this thread years ago. But it randomly popped up in my email today. And I was like:

I remmbmer this crazy thread!"

I came here, and see its STILL going on!

Oh my. I've moved on with my life the last few years, but nobody here has!
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Jupiter's red spot getting taller as it shrinks, team finds

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-jupi...ller-team.html

"Because the storm has been contracting, the researchers expected to find the already-powerful internal winds becoming even stronger, like an ice skater who spins faster as she pulls in her arms.

Instead of spinning faster, the storm appears to be forced to stretch up. It's almost like clay being shaped on a potter's wheel. As the wheel spins, an artist can transform a short, round lump into a tall, thin vase by pushing inward with his hands. The smaller he makes the base, the taller the vessel will grow.

In the case of the Great Red Spot, the change in height is small relative to the area that the storm covers, but it's still noticeable."


That is, the harder the pressure the Jupiter expanding agent will push out of Jupiter, the thinner shower, etc.

Just like a shower from a water hose that interacts with the expanding air.

Again a new proof for http://www.onesimpleprinciple.com/

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Jupiter's red spot getting taller as it shrinks, team finds

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-jupi...ller-team.html

"Because the storm has been contracting, the researchers expected to find the already-powerful internal winds becoming even stronger, like an ice skater who spins faster as she pulls in her arms.

Instead of spinning faster, the storm appears to be forced to stretch up. It's almost like clay being shaped on a potter's wheel. As the wheel spins, an artist can transform a short, round lump into a tall, thin vase by pushing inward with his hands. The smaller he makes the base, the taller the vessel will grow.

In the case of the Great Red Spot, the change in height is small relative to the area that the storm covers, but it's still noticeable."
Jupiter storm lies from a Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie of no observsions for expanding space, an irrational demand for the impossible, a lie that Newton did not explain gravity (Einstein did), a lie that pulling forces have not been measured, repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs

The changing shape of Jupiter's Great Red Spot is not predicted by ignorant fantasies and gibberish. So it is a lie that the red spot "proves" his delusions.
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Lets explain Jupiter red spot.

You cant do that with your wrong physics.

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Lets explain Jupiter red spot.

You cant do that with your wrong physics.

Well let's hear you explain it with your...erm.......physics.
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Well let's hear you explain it with your...erm.......physics.
It is expanding pushing force from galaxy centre supermassive concentration and from expanding Sun which collide deep inside expanding Jupiter centre when Jupiter is between expanding Sun and galaxy centre supermassive concentration which expanding also and emit expanding dark matter.

Sunspots it is because expanding pushing force from expanding Jupiter and from expanding galaxy centre supermassive concentration.

Also Earth Hurricane energy pushing from expanding Earth centre. Expanding Earth is between galaxy centre supermassive concentration and Sun every year one time.

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Old 15th March 2018, 12:47 AM   #3667
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Hole expanding Solarsystem pushing away from expanding galaxy centre.

So, expanding planets pushing away from galaxy centre some times faster what expanding Sun and sometimes not so fast what expanding Sun.

There is some exhaust gases from the centers of the expanding planets 😀

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Old 15th March 2018, 01:26 AM   #3668
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It is expanding pushing force from galaxy centre supermassive concentration and from expanding Sun which collide deep inside expanding Jupiter centre when Jupiter is between expanding Sun and galaxy centre supermassive concentration which expanding also and emit expanding dark matter.

Sunspots it is because expanding pushing force from expanding Jupiter and from expanding galaxy centre supermassive concentration.

Also Earth Hurricane energy pushing from expanding Earth centre. Expanding Earth is between galaxy centre supermassive concentration and Sun every year one time.

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Wait a minute. There is a pushing force from the sun which is acting on Jupiter's atmosphere, in one particular spot, but doesn't act on the planet? Is that right? Because I don't know if you noticed this, but the planets orbit the sun. A pushing force without any counterbalance of a pulling force would suggest that they wouldn't stay in orbit but would just head off into space.
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Old 15th March 2018, 04:42 AM   #3669
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Wait a minute. There is a pushing force from the sun which is acting on Jupiter's atmosphere, in one particular spot, but doesn't act on the planet? Is that right? Because I don't know if you noticed this, but the planets orbit the sun. A pushing force without any counterbalance of a pulling force would suggest that they wouldn't stay in orbit but would just head off into space.
Ofcourse expanding planets pushing away from expanding Sun same way what planets expanding. It is spiral orbits.

Ofcourse there is pushing force from Solarsystem from every direction all a time. Thats balance what you need.

Forget stupid pulling force.

You cant explain pulling force, because there is no pulling force!

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Ofcourse there is pushing force from Solarsystem from every direction all a time. Thats balance what you need.

I mean pushing force which coming from outside and pushing expanding nucleus of atoms that way where Sun is.

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Ofcourse there is pushing force from Solarsystem from every direction all a time. Thats balance what you need.



I mean pushing force which coming from outside and pushing expanding nucleus of atoms that way where Sun is.
That doesn't help you. If there is a pushing force from every direction in the universe, then the Sun's pushing force would be added to it in the direction away from the Sun, and the planets would move away. They would not stay in an orbit.
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That doesn't help you. If there is a pushing force from every direction in the universe, then the Sun's pushing force would be added to it in the direction away from the Sun, and the planets would move away. They would not stay in an orbit.
Maybe.
Maybe you are right.

I think you are not right.

I think i am right.

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Maybe.

Maybe you are right.



I think you are not right.



I think i am right.
Please explain why you think you are right: Why would a planet stay in orbit if there are only pushing forces? Have two people blow at a small ball through straws and see if the ball is going to orbit one of the people.
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Please explain why you think you are right: Why would a planet stay in orbit if there are only pushing forces? Have two people blow at a small ball through straws and see if the ball is going to orbit one of the people.
Maybe you take a expanding star and put expanding planets pushing away from expanding star same way what star and planet expanding.

Then you take billions expanding galaxys faraway from that expanding system and let this expanding galaxys emit expanding pushing force.

Then you just check out if expanding planet pushing spiral orbit away from expanding star.

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Why does Jupiter's centerpiece push the expanding substance out of the hard pressure?

Because whenever Jupiter is in the area between the supermassive object of the galaxy and the Sun, the expanding drifts of expanding pushing force from these objects collide with Jupiter in the center of the Jupiter, resulting in Jupiter's own expanding matter expanding much faster than before and thus pushing toward the expanding Jupiter surface.

It is essential that these supermassive objects and expansive drifts originating from the Sun come to the expanding force of the expanding atomic atoms of the planet, which makes them expand faster than before and allows their collisions with the expanding drifts that protrude in the centers of the planets.

It is good to remember my prediction that the Jupiter's red comma would have started to increase with some delay after the 2004 Tsunami. The Tsunami and the earthquake, therefore, generated an energy pulse that sprang from the space into the Solar System.

https://youtu.be/M2DSuDoVmTg

That is, the more pressure-expanding substance from the center of Jupiter towards the surface is projected, the less it splits into the larger area and thus the storm's diameter begins to decrease if the storm increases but the surface expanding material protrudes higher from the surface of Jupiter.

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Thumbs down Usual deluded and ignorant "supermassive black hole" gibberish

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
It is expanding pushing force from galaxy centre supermassive concentration ...
Usual deluded and ignorant "supermassive black hole" gibberish from a

Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie of no observsions for expanding space, an irrational demand for the impossible, a lie that Newton did not explain gravity (Einstein did), a lie that pulling forces have not been measured, repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs
To be added:
+ the ignorant delusion that gravity does not have an inverse square law!
The supermassive black hole in the center of the Milky Way cannot have any measurable influence on the Solar System because it is too far away.
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