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Old 14th February 2018, 01:13 PM   #1
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School shooting Florida

Shooting at Florida school - reports - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43066226

Hopefully initial reports are wrong and there won't be fatalities.
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Old 14th February 2018, 01:18 PM   #2
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Old 14th February 2018, 01:32 PM   #3
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Latest: Shooter still active, not yet apprehended. Between 5 and 25 injured, possibly deaths. Shooter wearing gas mask and with a long gun. Nothing really confirmed as it's early and ongoing.
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Old 14th February 2018, 01:54 PM   #4
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Broward County Fire & Rescue saying at least 20 injured. A different report says at least 3 dead. Shooter still at large. None of that is confirmed.
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Shooter has been apprehended. He/she was a suspected former student per ABC news report I'm watching.
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Police describe the shooter as a student and also a member of the US Army Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps program. Not confirmed.
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Old 14th February 2018, 02:43 PM   #7
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14 fatalities per CNN
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Old 14th February 2018, 02:51 PM   #8
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Just another Wednesday.
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Old 14th February 2018, 02:52 PM   #9
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14 fatalities per CNN
Qualified -- "victims", not necessarily deaths.
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Request split to the "Today's mass shooting" thread?

'kin hell.
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CNN says at least 2 killed and at least 14 are at hospitals.
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Old 14th February 2018, 03:09 PM   #12
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Request split to the "Today's mass shooting" thread?

'kin hell.
What was yesterday's?
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Old 14th February 2018, 03:13 PM   #13
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Just another Wednesday.
39 mass shootings (4+ victims) in the US up to Feb 12, so just under one per day. Just another Wednesday indeed. Of course this one gets more publicity because of the number of victims. Has to be in double figures to make the national news.
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Old 14th February 2018, 03:56 PM   #14
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CNN: The suspect had attended the school but was not a current student.
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Old 14th February 2018, 04:11 PM   #15
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ABCNews now reporting 15 dead "confirmed".

Other reports say 2 dead and 14 "victims" taken to hospitals.

I'm hoping ABC is wrong.
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Old 14th February 2018, 04:16 PM   #16
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CBS Miami saying that up to 7 are dead.

Originally Posted by WFOR-TV
The suspect, a former student, was the subject of jokes from other kids, according to a student at the school.

A student told WFOR-TV that other students "knew it was going to be him."

"A lot of people were saying it was going to be him. A lot of kids threw jokes around saying that he was going to be the one to shoot up the school," the student said. "It turns out that everyone predicted it. That's crazy."

Seventeen-year-old junior Matthew Walker spoke to ABC News, saying the suspect was known to show off knives and guns.

"He was going class to class just shooting at random kids," he said. "Everything he posts (on social media) is about weapons. It's sick."
Shooter is Nicolas de Jesus Cruz, 19 years old.

I wouldn't consider anything confirmed yet.
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Old 14th February 2018, 04:19 PM   #17
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Oh goodie!
We can blame illegal immigrants!
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Old 14th February 2018, 04:23 PM   #18
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Another sad loser nonentity shoots dead 15 (?) and maims fifty college students and teachers - his superiors in every way, intellectually, physically, emotionally - and now he is going to relish his new found fame.
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Old 14th February 2018, 04:25 PM   #19
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CNN says 16 dead.
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Old 14th February 2018, 04:27 PM   #20
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Countdown to someone misidentifying the gun used and that causing a five page derail......5.....4.....3....
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Old 14th February 2018, 04:29 PM   #21
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BBC says '17'.
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Old 14th February 2018, 04:33 PM   #22
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Sheriff says 17 dead.
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Old 14th February 2018, 04:38 PM   #23
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I saw helicopter footage of the handcuffed shooter. Seems to have a leg or foot injury. Reports say he was captured in the community near the school.
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Let me guess -- with the full knowledge that bad guys won't follow the rules, good guys at this school are not allowed to carry guns. This creates a risk-free killing zone for anyone who wants to come in and shoot people until they run out of ammo.
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Old 14th February 2018, 05:02 PM   #25
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How long until that "crisis actor" brunette shows up in photos?

The dregs of the political talk-o-sphere are saying this was a MS13 member out to "kill whitey".
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School shootings such as this, while tragic and preventable, are the price of freedom. And freedom ain't free. Sometimes it's paid in the blood of teenagers. Thoughts and prayers.
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How long until that "crisis actor" brunette shows up in photos?

The dregs of the political talk-o-sphere are saying this was a MS13 member out to "kill whitey".
People are so weird when they just make stuff up.
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Let me guess -- with the full knowledge that bad guys won't follow the rules, good guys at this school are not allowed to carry guns. This creates a risk-free killing zone for anyone who wants to come in and shoot people until they run out of ammo.
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School shootings such as this, while tragic and preventable, are the price of freedom. And freedom ain't free. Sometimes it's paid in the blood of teenagers. Thoughts and prayers.
“The creatures outside looked from serious to satire, and from satire to serious, and from serious to satire again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
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The suspect, 19-year-old former student Nikolaus Cruz, is in custody, the sheriff said. The sheriff said he was expelled for unspecified disciplinary reasons. Police are investigating his digital profile, he said. So far, what they've found is "very, very disturbing,"
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Has to be fake, I'm always told it is only white males who do this kind of spree killing.
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You can see his crazy Facebook stuff and more here...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-shooting.html
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Has to be fake, I'm always told it is only white males who do this kind of spree killing.
Have you seen a photo of him?
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School shootings such as this, while tragic and preventable, are the price of freedom. And freedom ain't free. Sometimes it's paid in the blood of teenagers. Thoughts and prayers.
I think it's obvious what the problem here was: the school was a "gun-free zone". The solution is to allow all students to carry concealed handguns. An armed school is a polite school.
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I think it's obvious what the problem here was: the school was a "gun-free zone". The solution is to allow all students to carry concealed handguns. An armed school is a polite school.
Allow? Require all students over the age of six to carry a full-auto M-4; and the teachers to have an M-249 SAW. It's the only way to be sure.
Kindergartners, of course, will be restricted to a Glock with a 20-round magazine.
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Just popping this in here for reference: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

[ETA] Would you believe... There have been another two (2) gun deaths in the USA since this particular incident concluded.
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Allow? Require all students over the age of six to carry a full-auto M-4; and the teachers to have an M-249 SAW. It's the only way to be sure.
Kindergartners, of course, will be restricted to a Glock with a 20-round magazine.
Do not make this mass shooting about guns people! It has absolutely nothing to do with guns! Or swimming pools! So don't even go there ...
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Do not make this mass shooting about guns people! It has absolutely nothing to do with guns! Or swimming pools! So don't even go there ...
He totally could have killed just as many people by smothering them with pillows, if he really wanted to.
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Maybe 10 miles from my house.
Then you are near relatives of mine - but none have kids/kids old enough to be in that school. I had suspected that was where you were!!!
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I think that it's mental illness or insanity. These mass and spree killers seem to be insane people. I want to say they are "loose" like a dangerous animal outside of a cage and living amongst normal people.

Guns have always been common and easy to get in America. Always. But something has changed here in my lifetime. It wasn't like this before. We have so many shootings now and we have these mass shootings and school shootings with some regularity. It wasn't like this before.

It's as if people want to kill and do kill with much greater prevalence here now. There is too much of this mental sickness in America. I don't like what I have seen happen to my country. It seems to have become infested with killers and I don't know how or why it happened.
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Allow? Require all students over the age of six to carry a full-auto M-4; and the teachers to have an M-249 SAW. It's the only way to be sure.
Kindergartners, of course, will be restricted to a Glock with a 20-round magazine.
Actually a Streetsweeper (fast fire shotgun) is great for defense against terminal orifices. https://www.gunsamerica.com/95721259...et-Sweeper.htm
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