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Old 8th March 2018, 11:18 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
I didn't know it was him. I thought I was hitting on a French Maid.
Wow, all threads lead to Rome!
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Old 8th March 2018, 11:20 AM   #42
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Sometimes it seems to be so, for CNN.
ok.
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
The Stormy Daniels situation may be causing additional friction in the Trump administration:

From: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/polit...els/index.html
President Donald Trump is upset with White House press secretary Sarah Sanders over her responses Wednesday regarding his alleged affair with porn star Stormy Daniels, a source close to the White House tells CNN...On Wednesday, Sanders told reporters that the arbitration was won "in the President's favor." The statement is an admission that the nondisclosure agreement exists, and that it directly involves the President.

This reminds me of the Hope Hicks situation: Trump Loyalist, does something that annoys Cheeto Mussolini, and gets criticized for it. In Hick's case, it may have had a part in making her leave the white house.
Well in Hicks situation it might have been felony witness tampering.
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Old 8th March 2018, 11:30 AM   #44
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By the way ...

Has anyone else noticed the irony where a year or two ago Trump was threatening to sue the women who accused him of sexual harassment, but he did not institute such law suits.

And now, we have a case that does involve sex, but does not involve sexual harassment, and as a result it is Donald Trump who is the one who is getting sued.

Weird.
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Old 8th March 2018, 11:48 AM   #45
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President Dennisonís dirtbag lawyer obtained a ďrestraining orderĒ from a private company, written by a retired judge. It has much legal standing as a restraining order written in crayon by my six-year-old forbidding us from serving her broccoli at dinner.
Golly, crayon orders are enforciable under the Federal Arbitration Act?

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Old 8th March 2018, 11:54 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
And can someone educate about Trumpís using an alias?
Was it something cool like "Carlos Danger"?
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Old 8th March 2018, 12:08 PM   #47
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Was it something cool like "Carlos Danger"?
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Maybe Trump shoulda used Dirk Diggler.
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Not a fan of all this artist's work, but this one really says what most of us are thinking

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Old 8th March 2018, 12:16 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Not a fan of all this artist's work, but this one really says what most of us are thinking

You the Man!
For certain definitions of "us".
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And the GOP shows it unbridled hypocrisy by keeping quite about this, whereas they were all over Clinton on it.
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And the Democrat shows it unbridled hypocrisy by being outraged about this, whereas they were keeping quite over Clinton on it.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And the GOP shows it unbridled hypocrisy by keeping quite about this, whereas they were all over Clinton on it.
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And the Democrat shows it unbridled hypocrisy by being outraged about this, whereas they were keeping quite over Clinton on it.
Either of you is welcome to show your work. Especially congressmen who are still in office since Clinton.

Otherwise ...meh.
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Maybe Trump shoulda used Dirk Diggler.
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Old 8th March 2018, 12:31 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
And the Democrat shows it unbridled hypocrisy by being outraged about this, whereas they were keeping quite over Clinton on it.
That happened before the Internet. It doesn't count.
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Old 8th March 2018, 12:34 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
And the Democrat shows it unbridled hypocrisy by being outraged about this, whereas they were keeping quite over Clinton on it.
I have to give you props for even keeping the typos.
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Old 8th March 2018, 12:35 PM   #57
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Either of you is welcome to show your work. Especially congressmen who are still in office since Clinton.

Otherwise ...meh.
Either of them could spell quiet properly, too. Let's not hold our breath.
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Either of them could spell quiet properly, too. Let's not hold our breath.
Spell?

protip; I was cutting and pasting to reveal a truth critical to critical thinking.
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Spell?

protip; I was cutting and pasting to reveal a truth critical to critical thinking.
How wonderful for you, because you did neither job very well.
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Clinton never paid hush-money: big, BIG difference.
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Old 8th March 2018, 01:21 PM   #62
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The Stormy Daniels situation may be causing additional friction in the Trump administration:

From: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/polit...els/index.html
President Donald Trump is upset with White House press secretary Sarah Sanders over her responses Wednesday regarding his alleged affair with porn star Stormy Daniels, a source close to the White House tells CNN...On Wednesday, Sanders told reporters that the arbitration was won "in the President's favor." The statement is an admission that the nondisclosure agreement exists, and that it directly involves the President.

This reminds me of the Hope Hicks situation: Trump Loyalist, does something that annoys Cheeto Mussolini, and gets criticized for it. In Hick's case, it may have had a part in making her leave the white house.
Sanders didn't say anything that was not already public, or anything that was not run by Trump first. The agreement is contained in the Clifford filing, and we've already been told Trump's alias. Sanders revealed nothing new.

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/03/...rs-stormygate/

No, Trumpís not mad at Sarah Sanders for her answers about Stormygate
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I suppose it will depend on

1) whether whatever disclosure agreements that might have existed were completed properly (as pointed out earlier and in other threads, there were some... oddities with the Stormy Daniels agreement that forms the basis of the lawsuit. (Namely it was never properly signed and payment came from the lawyer)

2) how she feels about Trump

3) if she thinks she can get money by telling her story
Well Stormy Daniel's ranking on a porn site I checked out is in the top 5. I'd never heard of her before this, but I don't suppose I would have. I'd say it will work out very well for her. Why else would she reveal anything about an affair from years ago? Money.

As for Trump, who do you think will care about any of this aside from the people who already hate him? A billionaire had an affair years ago with a porn star and possibly a lot of other women...shocker.

And don't think Clinton didn't silence his women as someone suggested above, he certainly did, either that or I missed the Broderick rape trial. If it wasn't for Bill people might be a lot more shocked by Trump. Bill set the bar nice and low.

This may have mattered a few years ago. I sincerely think Trump is being attacked so much that it's just more noise. Maybe it's just me though, that's certainly possible.

Of all the crap Trump has been accused of though, screwing a porn star years before he ran for President smells of desperation more than anything. It's pathetic and I think it's funny that so many angry liberals think this matters or will change anything.

More moral highground posturing as a setup for the upcoming impeachment?
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
Sanders didn't say anything that was not already public, or anything that was not run by Trump first. The agreement is contained in the Clifford filing, and we've already been told Trump's alias. Sanders revealed nothing new.

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/03/...rs-stormygate/

No, Trumpís not mad at Sarah Sanders for her answers about Stormygate
This presumes that Trump's emotional reactions to things are in any way guided by even a vague sense of rationality and awareness of the facts.
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Of all the crap Trump has been accused of though, screwing a porn star years before he ran for President smells of desperation more than anything. It's pathetic and I think it's funny that so many angry liberals think this matters or will change anything.
Agreed. It won't change anything. Conservatives think it is cool that they finally have a horndog on par with Kennedy. That they don't seems to elude them.
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Clinton never paid hush-money: big, BIG difference.
Using your position of power over a young female intern to abuse her sexually...

I would say Bill Clinton is worse.

Wiki:

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Lewinsky stated that between November 1995 and March 1997, she had nine sexual encounters in the Oval Office with then-President Bill Clinton. According to her testimony, these involved fellatio and other sexual acts, but not sexual intercourse.
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'She wrote an essay in the March 2018 issue of Vanity Fair in which she did not directly explain why she used the #MeToo hashtag in October, but she did write that although her relationship with Bill Clinton was consensual, because he was 27 years older than her and in a position with a lot more power than she was, in her opinion the relationship constituted an "abuse of power" on Clinton's part. She added that she had been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder due to the experiences involved in the scandal."
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Sanders didn't say anything that was not already public, or anything that was not run by Trump first. The agreement is contained in the Clifford filing, and we've already been told Trump's alias. Sanders revealed nothing new.

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/03/...rs-stormygate/
She brought up the arbitration ruling ("Winning" lol) and made that front page news.

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No, Trump’s not mad at Sarah Sanders for her answers about Stormygate
So yeah, NY times reporter says his sources say trump is made, FOX reporter says no. Take your pick, I guess. I know they are both biased, but I know which sources I believe to be more accurate.
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Is there anyone posting who can explain the "alias" thing to a layman?

How is it possible to have a document that prohibits me from talking about someone if that someone is not named in the document?
Is there a separate document somewhere that spells out that the DD in the previous document is actually Donald Trump? If that is the case, what is the point of the alias in the first place?
I am perplexed by this. It is something that, had a previous president done it, I would be scandalized by- and expect that president would be on her way out pretty quick. Is it truly less odious a practice than I am imagining?
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Agreed. It won't change anything. Conservatives think it is cool that they finally have a horndog on par with Kennedy. That they don't seems to elude them.
It wouldn't be the affair, it would be the payoff...

Similar to Clinton where it was the cover up.
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Well Stormy Daniel's ranking on a porn site I checked out is in the top 5. I'd never heard of her before this, but I don't suppose I would have. I'd say it will work out very well for her. Why else would she reveal anything about an affair from years ago? Money.

As for Trump, who do you think will care about any of this aside from the people who already hate him? A billionaire had an affair years ago with a porn star and possibly a lot of other women...shocker.

And don't think Clinton didn't silence his women as someone suggested above, he certainly did, either that or I missed the Broderick rape trial. If it wasn't for Bill people might be a lot more shocked by Trump. Bill set the bar nice and low.

This may have mattered a few years ago. I sincerely think Trump is being attacked so much that it's just more noise. Maybe it's just me though, that's certainly possible.

Of all the crap Trump has been accused of though, screwing a porn star years before he ran for President smells of desperation more than anything. It's pathetic and I think it's funny that so many angry liberals think this matters or will change anything.

More moral highground posturing as a setup for the upcoming impeachment?
At least we got to page two before devolving into BUT CLINTON
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Is there anyone posting who can explain the "alias" thing to a layman?

How is it possible to have a document that prohibits me from talking about someone if that someone is not named in the document?
Is there a separate document somewhere that spells out that the DD in the previous document is actually Donald Trump? If that is the case, what is the point of the alias in the first place?
I am perplexed by this. It is something that, had a previous president done it, I would be scandalized by- and expect that president would be on her way out pretty quick. Is it truly less odious a practice than I am imagining?
Yes, the Side Agreement says who is actually who. It's also included in the Clifford filing. The names are blacked out, but it's already been revealed.
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Using your position of power over a young female intern to abuse her sexually...

I would say Bill Clinton is worse.
Really?
Why don't you ask Monica instead of determining yourself that she was coerced?
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She brought up the arbitration ruling ("Winning" lol) and made that front page news.



So yeah, NY times reporter says his sources say trump is made, FOX reporter says no. Take your pick, I guess. I know they are both biased, but I know which sources I believe to be more accurate.
We'll know soon anyway, if Sanders leaves.

I don't think there's any way Sanders said anything that was not already discussed with Trump, though. It was obvious that she'd get questions about Clifford.
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At least we got to page two before devolving into BUT CLINTON
The irony being that it was injected into the thread by a Trump opponent.
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Yes, the Side Agreement says who is actually who. It's also included in the Clifford filing. The names are blacked out, but it's already been revealed.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/TODAY/z_...0Complaint.pdf
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Really?
Why don't you ask Monica instead of determining yourself that she was coerced?
I quoted her...

Consensual does not mean it's not abuse...

Which is what she said...
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Old 8th March 2018, 01:38 PM   #78
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
Yes, the Side Agreement says who is actually who. It's also included in the Clifford filing. The names are blacked out, but it's already been revealed.
That makes sense-sort of. Yet if it is in writing somewhere that DD is Donald Trump, what is gained by becoming DD in the first place?
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
We'll know soon anyway, if Sanders leaves.

I don't think there's any way Sanders said anything that was not already discussed with Trump, though. It was obvious that she'd get questions about Clifford.
I agree that it was probably discussed with Trump.

However that doesn't mean Trump wasn't pissed at the specific way she answered, or that his anger would be rational.

And he can be pissed at her and not have her leave.
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That makes sense-sort of. Yet if it is in writing somewhere that DD is Donald Trump, what is gained by becoming DD in the first place?
That part of the NDA that reveals actual names can be hidden.

UNHIDING the names was part of Daniels intent, or so it appears.
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