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20th October 2021, 12:00 AM | #1961 |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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20th October 2021, 12:05 AM | #1962 |
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It's the unfortunate reaction you get to a narcissist who is trying to elevate himself by putting everybody else down (and by wearing elevator shoes). You begin to pay attention to and comment on all the little things about him that don't really matter and shouldn't concern you: his (lack of) hair, his big ass, his spelling, his elevator shoes ... |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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20th October 2021, 05:35 AM | #1964 |
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She may give you that impression by letting the photo of herself dominate the presentation of the YouTube video instead of having a photo that somehow illustrates the theme she is talking about. It also doesn't help that she is trying to sell her services. I have seen a couple of YouTube videos with cartoon illustrations that make you think of Trump but not enough for him to be able to sue* them! But I have seen much worse. What she has to say about narcissists and narcissism is OK, and it can't be reduced to, 'I am smarter than narcissists'. *ETA: I am surprised that it is possible to publish a list like this one including contemporaries:
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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20th October 2021, 06:07 AM | #1965 |
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20th October 2021, 08:13 AM | #1966 |
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This tiny forum has better rule enforcement than Twitter. She'd never get away with that here. My guess is that he's a public figure, and he puts the nonsense out in "press releases" on his letterhead. Which really redefines downwards the concept of a press release.
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20th October 2021, 02:37 PM | #1967 |
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TBH, it should not matter if it was Donny, or Nigel Farage or Vladimir Putin she was acting as a channel for if they have been banned from Twitter. She is violating Twitter rules and should be "managed" forthwith.
But of course she won't be. Because she is hardly alone. There are likely tens of thousands of other Twits, if not millions, doing exactly the same thing with the same content. And Twitter doesn't want to stop such a lucrative income stream. |
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28th October 2021, 07:06 PM | #1968 |
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I found a Twitch gaming stream with insights into Trumps psychology just
a bit after the after the discussion of Rauchian Philosophy. It even scores a few points by going into the origins of the cotton candy quote. Twitch Link |
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28th October 2021, 11:10 PM | #1969 |
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5th November 2021, 01:39 AM | #1970 |
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Shrinks speculate on what happens if Trump wins in 2024.
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This guy did interview him:
"Utterly Delusional" - Jonathan Karl On No. 45's Mental State After Leaving Office (The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Nov 9, 2021)
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9th November 2021, 04:32 PM | #1975 |
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Liz Cheney just said that Trump is "a dangerous and irrational man" and the GOP leaders are "willing hostages" to him.
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9th November 2021, 11:28 PM | #1976 |
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GOP leaders aren't hostages, they are the hostage takers.
When Trump threatened to start his own party, they threatened to cut him off of the donor mailing lists and Legal Defense Fund - Trump caved straight away. |
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I was just wondering if it could have been invoked before he was sworn in.
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10th November 2021, 07:11 AM | #1980 |
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It's more complex than that. I posit that the Frankenstein is the now rabid, radicalized base. Recall how a rally crowd booed at Trump for having the temerity to suggest to think about getting vaccinated, and the orange sphincter pedaled back.
The Reich wing media machine has to cater to--even compete for--those many feverishly swiveling eyeballs, which can only have the spiraling madness perpetuate. A beast has been unleashed upon the land. And the country as a whole is asleep while this restive monster broods and froths. But what else can we expect in a nation where God 'n Guns are practically inseparable? |
10th November 2021, 08:13 AM | #1981 |
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All the TrumpFacistParty needs is someone like Tucker Carlson on their side: Fox is happy to be once again the kingmakers.
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10th November 2021, 10:07 AM | #1982 |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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10th November 2021, 12:32 PM | #1983 |
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It ain't only the sack of rotting yams who's sick. There's a national contagion that has awakened and emboldened the credulous marks, the uneducated provincials, the deplorable evangelicals, the Nazis, the gibbering lunatics. A critical mass has eschewed reality, and is bent on a nihilistic quest to maintain that high derived from the liberating expression of communal hate. A self reinforcing ecosystem of mutual dependence between leaders and the lead, with the distinction fuzzy and the roles exchanging.
Amazing that a minority can effect such chaos. But that's the price to be paid while free speech remains a prized right for even the architects of the system's demise to exercise. And after the populace has allowed itself to become increasingly uneducated, insular, xenophobic, disenfranchised, bamboozled, fearful and willfully ignorant. All while a somnolent justice apparatus abets Fascism in its feverish plotting unhindered. A convulsive shock is coming. And the rest of the world is going to suffer for it. |
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I just watched a very interesting program on Trump including interviews with mental health professionals about his mental disorders and why and how he appealed to so many people. Historians compare his rise to how Mussolini was 'invited in by the ruling elite" and how they thought they could control him (think 2016 and today's GOP leadership) and with Hitler and his use of scapegoats (think immigration). They discuss how he uses the same techniques as Mussolini and Hitler in fostering a sense of victimization and fear and by removing a certain element (the scapegoat), it will make the country better and their lives better. He repeats things 3 times at rallies and gets the audience to repeat it. It then becomes fact to them. Interviews with those who know him reveal who he really is. It was made when Trump was still in office 2018) but is still relevant considering the grip he still has on the GOP. Although they focus on his control of nuclear weapons, etc., we know his real dangerousness was/is his attack on our democracy. It's fascinating and I highly recommend it.
Unfit: The Psychology of Donald Trump (about 1.5 hours) Available on Youtube (in 7 parts) and Amazon Prime. |
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From the documentary I recommended above:
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I think it's time to resurrect this thread after everything that's happened since last Dec.
Would anyone like to still argue that Trump is NOT a pathological liar- malignant narcissist-sociopath? |
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No, it's actually Obama who's the narcissist. There's proof. Sooper dooper seekrit proof. Oh, and thin-skinned as well.
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Is that why he had to continue being the center of attention after his presidency ended? He just can't seem to give up the limelight, can he? All over TV all the time, holding rallies, having Dem bigwigs still coming to his "The 44th President of the United States" gilded office to kiss his ring, etc. It's just disgusting!
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I’ve seen enough of Trump to know that he was the worst President we’ve ever had and shouldn’t have ever been in the running, much less elected. We, as a nation, need to fight against him being elected again and against anyone who still supports him.
I didn’t need a formal diagnosis to realize that. In fact, a diagnosis doesn’t tell me anything I couldn’t see with my own eyes. A diagnosis is 100% irrelevant to me because I ain’t trying to treat the dude; I just know I don’t want him as my President. I still maintain that doctors shouldn’t make formal diagnoses on people they have never examined and that we shouldn’t be using mental health conditions as a basis to say that any person is dangerous or unqualified for something. Their actual actions and history should tell us all we need to know on that account. |
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Yes, you've made it perfectly clear that you think a formal diagnosis can't be made without an in-person evaluation because of "ethics" and the Goldwater Rule.
But then, I wasn't asking whether or not he needs an official diagnosis, just "Would anyone like to still argue that Trump is NOT a pathological liar- malignant narcissist-sociopath?" Whether or not it's an "official diagnosis" isn't the point: he'll never, ever get an in-person evaluation because....he's a narcissistic sociopath who thinks he's a 'stable genius' as he's told us.
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Now that he is out of office, I want him to be as sane as possible - for purposes of culpability.
He is without a doubt a sociopath who only functions because he is constantly being enabled by others. |
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The thing about Trump is that he does care, desperately, what the authority figures in his life think about him.
His life is one big Daddy Issue. |
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Then why use diagnostic terms? “Ignorant lying buffoon,” works pretty well too.
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Because that's what he is whether officially diagnosed or not. Lots of people are "ignorant lying buffoons" without being narcissistic sociopaths. If a woman isn't officially diagnosed by a doctor as being pregnant, it doesn't mean she's not pregnant. Nor does using "she's in the family way" or describing her as "having a bun in the oven", etc. change the fact she's pregnant.
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We've actually reached the point where it is being argued, that being mentally ill does not necessarily disqualify someone from serving as president of the United States of America? Think about that. Let it sink in.
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