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Old 18th March 2018, 03:40 PM   #3722
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
I maked a video for you.
A lie of making "a video for you".
"Jupiter great red spot, Sunspots, Hurricanes, Tornados etc..." is ignorant delusions that do not explain "why planets orbit their stars, and you also need to explain how moon's orbit their planets"

Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie of no observsions for expanding space, an irrational demand for the impossible, a lie that Newton did not explain gravity (Einstein did), a lie that pulling forces have not been measured, repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs, the ignorant delusion that gravity does not have an inverse square law.
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Old 18th March 2018, 03:46 PM   #3724
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This cyklones Jupiter poles is also something which going to proof that i am right.
Another "Jupiter shows he is right" lie from a Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie of no observsions for expanding space, an irrational demand for the impossible, a lie that Newton did not explain gravity (Einstein did), a lie that pulling forces have not been measured, repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs, the ignorant delusion that gravity does not have an inverse square law..
This is a repeat of the ignorant delusion that gravity does not have an inverse square law (thus the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky way cannot affect weather in the Solar System).

NASA Releases Amazing Photos Of Jupiter's Central Cyclones At The North And South Poles
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Old 18th March 2018, 03:55 PM   #3725
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
I think you also have a problem get a picture how fast nucleus of atoms can expanding.
We hove no problem understanding ignorant "nuclei expanding" delusions from a Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie of no observsions for expanding space, an irrational demand for the impossible, a lie that Newton did not explain gravity (Einstein did), a lie that pulling forces have not been measured, repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs, the ignorant delusion that gravity does not have an inverse square law.

He lies twice about Poincaré.
Poincaré would have understood the insanity of expanding atomic nuclei doing anything a crank wants.
Poincaré wrote about about Le Sage's theory of gravitation which is not expanding atoms !
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Old 18th March 2018, 04:03 PM   #3729
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If it moves, it moves in space and then it is not space.
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Old 18th March 2018, 04:08 PM   #3730
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
alright. If there is space that moves, where does it move?
No space moves .

Objects, e.g. the Earth, galaxies, etc., move in outer space (that big mostly empty thing where everything we observe exists).

There is also space which is the set of possible positions for any object. Objects change position inside that space.
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Old 18th March 2018, 04:19 PM   #3733
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
Do you like to know what kind of god is?
Idiocy of science is religion and a stupid question from a
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When space is changing then obviously space is changing !

What is stupid is that there are several ways that spacetime can change.
Add mass to an object and the curvature of spacetime changes.
Do things with exotic matter and you can form theoretical wormholes that can be travelled through (tunnels of spacetime).
Collide two neutron stars or black holes together and we get detected gravitational waves (ripples in spacetime).
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Old 18th March 2018, 04:22 PM   #3734
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
I'm just interested in knowing just how expansive space is expanding !!!
Now we are back to obvious lies. He has asked about the expansion of spacetime many times before, been given what happens when spacetime expands and has ignored it for years .

We also have the lie that there is no evidence for an expanding universe.
Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie of no observsions for expanding space, an irrational demand for the impossible, a lie that Newton did not explain gravity (Einstein did), a lie that pulling forces have not been measured, repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs, the ignorant delusion that gravity does not have an inverse square law.
+ an obvious lie that he is "interested in knowing just how expansive space is expanding".

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Old 18th March 2018, 04:36 PM   #3735
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Big Bang theory say, galaxygroups dont moving in space away from eachother, but still galaxygroups are later more faraway from eachother and this is because space expanding.
Gibberish that looks like persistent ignorance about the Big Bang from a Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie of no observsions for expanding space, an irrational demand for the impossible, a lie that Newton did not explain gravity (Einstein did), a lie that pulling forces have not been measured, repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs, the ignorant delusion that gravity does not have an inverse square law.
Basic cosmology he should have learned 9 years ago from the start of this thread.

For others:
General relativity states that galaxies move away from each other in an expanding universe. But galaxies are also bound together in galaxy groups. So every galaxy has an additional velocity to that from expansion because of the other galaxies in the group. This is called a peculiar velocity. For galaxies close to us their peculiar velocity can dominate the expansion of the universe. Thus we have a handful of nearby blue shifted galaxies. Plot galaxy distance versus velocity (redshift) and there is a straight line overall (Hubble's law). The peculiar velocities of the nearby Virgo Cluster are an obvious "clump" of velocities around that line.

Why doesn't the Solar System expand if the whole Universe is expanding?
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Old 18th March 2018, 10:07 PM   #3736
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You lie again. You just lie, lie, and lie all a time.

You just handwaving yours hand when you try to explain expanding space.

And you lie.

"In some ways, the mystery of the Great Red Spot only seems to deepen as the iconic storm contracts."

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...-as-it-shrinks
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Old 19th March 2018, 12:31 AM   #3737
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Tell me what will make space change?

If you argue that space can change, you have to be able to tell what space in the universe is such that it can change at all.

In a space-changing substance, it is the separate parts of a substance moving in space relative to each other. And it is all the more moving / pushing in the widening dwindles that it adds to what is already there.

And now your turn.

What in the expanding space is there such a thing as to allow its expansion somehow somehow inside to inside somehow?

Kertokaa minulle mikä mahdollistaa avaruuden itsensä muuttumisen?

Jos väittää että avaruus voi muuttua, pitää pystyä kertomaan mikä siinä avaruudessa on sellaista että se ylipäätään voi muuttua.

Avaruudessa muuttuvassa aineessa se on aineen erilliset osat jotka liikkuvat avaruudessa suhteessa toisiinsa. Ja se että laajenevien tihentymien sisälle liikkuu / työntyy koko ajan lisää sitä mitä niissä jo on.

Ja nyt sinun vuorosi.

Mikä siinä laajenevassa avaruudessa on sellaista milä mahdollistaa sen laajenemisen jotenkin jotenkin sisältä sisälle päin jotenkin?
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Old 19th March 2018, 06:25 AM   #3738
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Scientists detect radio echoes of a black hole feeding on a star

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-scie...lack-hole.html

"We know that the radio waves are coming from really energetic electrons that are moving in a magnetic field—that is a well-established process," Pasham says. "The debate has been, where are these really energetic electrons coming from?"

Some scientists propose that, in the moments after the stellar explosion, a shockwave propagates outward and energizes the plasma particles in the surrounding medium, in a process that in turn emits radio waves. In such a scenario, the pattern of emitted radio waves would look radically different from the pattern of X-rays produced from infalling stellar debris.

"What we found basically challenges this paradigm," Pasham says."

Yes, i already know what is going on.

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Old 19th March 2018, 07:31 AM   #3739
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"From this same data, Pasham and van Velzen calculated the size of the X-ray-emitting region to be about 25 times the size of the sun, while the radio-emitting region was about 400,000 times the solar radius.

"It's not a coincidence that this is happening," Pasham says. "Clearly there's a causal connection between this small region producing X-rays, and this big region producing radio waves."

The team proposes that the radio waves were produced by a jet of high-energy particles that began to stream out from the black hole shortly after the black hole began absorbing material from the exploded star. Because the region of the jet where these radio waves first formed was incredibly dense (tightly packed with electrons), a majority of the radio waves were immediately absorbed by other electrons.

It was only when electrons traveled downstream of the jet that the radio waves could escape—producing the signal that the researchers eventually detected. Thus, they say, the strength of the jet must be controlled by the accretion rate, or the speed at which the black hole is consuming X-ray-emitting stellar debris."

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-scie...lack-hole.html

Yes yes.

Galaxy center supermassive concentration expanding and emit dark expanding matter

When this dark expanding pushing force particle moving inside expanding star, there is expanding pushing force from star expanding nucleus of atoms.

That expanding pushing force pushing inside this dark expanding particle which start expanding faster and faster. Finally this dark expanding particle is not dark for us.

Thats why expanding star expanding nucleus of atoms start also expanding faster and it is start pushing away from expanding star center and it is that way where is supermassive concentration and all that with out pulling force and with out curving space.

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Old 19th March 2018, 01:47 PM   #3742
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
Scientists detect radio echoes of a black hole feeding on a star

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-scie...lack-hole.html

"We know that the radio waves are coming from really energetic electrons that are moving in a magnetic field—that is a well-established process," Pasham says. "The debate has been, where are these really energetic electrons coming from?"

Some scientists propose that, in the moments after the stellar explosion, a shockwave propagates outward and energizes the plasma particles in the surrounding medium, in a process that in turn emits radio waves. In such a scenario, the pattern of emitted radio waves would look radically different from the pattern of X-rays produced from infalling stellar debris.

"What we found basically challenges this paradigm," Pasham says."
Years of ignorance says this is a "Yes, i already know what is going on" lie on energetic electrons from black holes.
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Thumbs down Lies about what he cites which has no dark matter

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
"From this same data, Pasham and van Velzen calculated the size of the X-ray-emitting region to be about 25 times the size of the sun, while the radio-emitting region was about 400,000 times the solar radius.

"It's not a coincidence that this is happening," Pasham says. "Clearly there's a causal connection between this small region producing X-rays, and this big region producing radio waves."

The team proposes that the radio waves were produced by a jet of high-energy particles that began to stream out from the black hole shortly after the black hole began absorbing material from the exploded star. Because the region of the jet where these radio waves first formed was incredibly dense (tightly packed with electrons), a majority of the radio waves were immediately absorbed by other electrons.

It was only when electrons traveled downstream of the jet that the radio waves could escape—producing the signal that the researchers eventually detected. Thus, they say, the strength of the jet must be controlled by the accretion rate, or the speed at which the black hole is consuming X-ray-emitting stellar debris."

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-03-scie...lack-hole.html
Lies about what he cites which has no dark matter. The quote is about x-ray and radio wave producing regions.

Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie of no observsions for expanding space, an irrational demand for the impossible, a lie that Newton did not explain gravity (Einstein did), a lie that pulling forces have not been measured, repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs, the ignorant delusion that gravity does not have an inverse square law.
+ a total delusion that supermassive black holes emit dark matter.

Black holes do not emit anything which is why they are called holes! They do not even emit light which is the black part of their name.

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Old 19th March 2018, 04:37 PM   #3744
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You dont answer. You just wave your hands.
We have answered and that's not hand waving, that's pointing you back to the answers and links your were already given multiple times.


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I'm just interested in knowing just how expansive space is expanding !!!
Well, then you should study the links and information provided but you don't

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What makes it possible to change it?
Fundamentally time, as the non-existence of time is the only thing that can make any changes impossible.

Other than that simply reversing your direction reverses the ordering some of spatial location for you. As for more complex changes you have already been given information and links for general relativity, cosmological constant, vacuum energy and just topology in general. You really do need to study those if you are actually interested.

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What happens to the expanding space when its metric coordinate system grows
A metric is not a coordinate system, again you really do need to study the links and information you have already been given


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Do you understand what's behind time?

When the expanding drift expands in space out into an existing space, moves inside it increases what it already has.

It is something physically tangible to exist and because its volume in the expanding dwindle increases, the internal pressure of the expanding drift would increase if its separate expansive parts did not move / protrude in space away from each other.

That is, the DEPARTMENT OF DIFFERENT PARTS IN THE SPACE OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OTHERS allows the expansion of matter in space out into existing space.

WHAT CAN GIVING FOR SPACE POSSIBILITY TO CHANGE?
See above

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CONNECTED A MOVEMENT WHATSOEVER TO CHANGE THE SPACE?

IF, HOW?

IF NOT, WHAT IS CONNECTED ???


Minua kiinnostaa tietää vain ja ainoastaan se miten se laajeneva avaruus laajenee!!!

Mikä mahdollistaa sen muuttumisen?

Mitä sille laajenevalle avaruudelle tapahtuu silloin kun sen metrinen koordinaatisto kasvaa

Ymmärrätkö mitä ajan takaa?

Kun laajeneva tihentymä laajenee avaruudessa ulos päin jo olemassa olevaan avaruuteen, sen sisälle LIIKKUU lisää sitä mitä siinä jo on.

Se on jotakin fyysisen konkreettisesti olemassa olevaa ja koska sen määrä laajenevassa tihentymässä kasvaa, laajenevan tihentymän sisäinen paine kasvaisi, jos sen erilliset laajenevat osat eivät liikkuisi / työntyisi avaruudessa pois päin toisistansa.

Eli ERILLISTEN OSIEN LIIKE AVARUUDESSA SUHTEESSA TOISIINSA mahdollistaa aineen laajenemisen avaruudessa ulos päin jo olemassa olevaan avaruuteen.

MIKÄ MAHDOLLISTAA AVARUUDEN ITSENSÄ MUUTTUMISEN?

LIITTYYKÖ LIIKE MILLÄÄN TAVALLA AVARUUDEN MUUTTUMISEEN?

JOS, NIIN MITEN?

JOS EI, MIKÄ LIITTYY???

.

Sorry I can't even parse that last bit.

So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?

It would clearly demonstrate the difference between pulling and pushing forces. Particularly on materials that, well, react differently to such differing forces.

How do the observations of that experiment support your "point of view", particularly about there being no pulling forces.

Anteeksi en voi edes jäsentää sitä viimeistä bittiä.

Joten, oletko todella kokeillut tätä köysikokeilua vielä?


Jos ei, miksi ei?


Jos on, niin miksi et ilmoittanut, mitä löysit?

Se osoittaisi selkeästi vetovoiman ja työntövoimien välisen eron. Erityisesti materiaaleista, jotka hyvin reagoivat eri tavoin eriarvoisiin voimavaroihin.

Kuinka tämän kokeilun havainnot tukevat sinun "näkökulmastasi", etenkään siitä, että ei ole vetovoimia.
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Old 19th March 2018, 10:29 PM   #3745
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The Man, dont put any links for me

Just using yours own words or then just say, you cant explain expanding space with words like i can explain expanding nucleus of atoms with words.

That is, the DEPARTMENT OF DIFFERENT PARTS IN THE SPACE OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OTHERS allows the expansion of matter in space out into existing space.

Lets count my using words.

DEPARTMENT OF DIFFERENT PARTS IN THE SPACE OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OTHERS.

There is 11 words.

So, maybe you using like 100 words, when you explain expanding space.

WHAT CAN GIVING FOR SPACE POSSIBILITY TO CHANGE?

And i already know, you are not going to try explain expanding space.

Quess why?

Because you cant explain expanding space.

Expanding space is naked empire.

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The Man, dont put any links for me

First, you don't get to tell me what to do.

Second, who says they are intended only for you?

Third, is simply ignoring them now getting just too onerous for you?

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Just using yours own words or then just say, you cant explain expanding space with words like i can explain expanding nucleus of atoms with words.
First, we've done that, given you it in our own words and you just ignored them portraying instead just your own circular words as something you had been told.

Second, you evidently can't "explain expanding nucleus of atoms" without directly contradicting yourself.

Third, as before, you don't get to tell people what to do.

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post

That is, the DEPARTMENT OF DIFFERENT PARTS IN THE SPACE OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OTHERS allows the expansion of matter in space out into existing space.

Lets count my using words.

DEPARTMENT OF DIFFERENT PARTS IN THE SPACE OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OTHERS.

There is 11 words.
Yes, 11 words which I expect might even make less sense in Finish as they do in English.


Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
So, maybe you using like 100 words, when you explain expanding space.

WHAT CAN GIVING FOR SPACE POSSIBILITY TO CHANGE?

And i already know, you are not going to try explain expanding space.

Quess why?

Because you cant explain expanding space.

Expanding space is naked empire.

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Again see explanations, links and even points above, already provided to you.

Again I doubt anyone here is going to keep giving you answers in their own words while you ignore the answers you have already been given just looking for the enactment of some imaginary circular conversation you had with yourself, and have posted here before.
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First, you don't get to tell me what to do.

Second, who says they are intended only for you?

Third, is simply ignoring them now getting just too onerous for you?



First, we've done that, given you it in our own words and you just ignored them portraying instead just your own circular words as something you had been told.

Second, you evidently can't "explain expanding nucleus of atoms" without directly contradicting yourself.

Third, as before, you don't get to tell people what to do.



Yes, 11 words which I expect might even make less sense in Finish as they do in English.




Again see explanations, links and even points above, already provided to you.

Again I doubt anyone here is going to keep giving you answers in their own words while you ignore the answers you have already been given just looking for the enactment of some imaginary circular conversation you had with yourself, and have posted here before.
You or reality check put again and again same text about something else here for me.

It is very interesting that you say, you are already explain expanding space with words.

I just wonder why you dont keeping copy that text and put here again and again that text here?!?

You just say again and again that you already explain expanding space.

Why it is that way?

Why you dont copy that yours explanation again here?

It is because you already know that was handwaving from you.

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You or reality check put again and again same text about something else here for me.
Nope it was about expanding space.


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It is very interesting that you say, you are already explain expanding space with words.

I just wonder why you dont keeping copy that text and put here again and again that text here?!?
We did and used different words at times. You ignored them in preference for your made up circular conversation no one here told you.

You know this as you now try to incorporate some of those words into your question. Apparently without understanding their meaning and how they relate.

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What happens to the expanding space when its metric coordinate system grows
Did you really think no one would notice you now using the same words in your quested as you’ve been given in the answers you otherwise ignored? As well as apparently not understanding them.


Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post

You just say again and again that you already explain expanding space.

Why it is that way?
Again because we tried giving you the answers again, again and again, even wording them differently and you still ignored them. Now you think you have some hook by using some of the words from those answers in your question. It clearly shows that not only are you aware of those answers you were given but your intent is still the same, to try to actually enact your pretend circular answer. Again, good luck with that.

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Why you dont copy that yours explanation again here?
Why don’t you, your use of some of the same specific wording, again, shows you do know you were given them.


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It is because you already know that was handwaving from you.

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Nope, agian, not hand waving just pointing. Pointing you back to those answers and links and now pointing out your own specific demonstration of your awareness of those previous answers. You’ve been hoist by your own petard.



So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?

It would clearly demonstrate the difference between pulling and pushing forces. Particularly on materials that, well, react differently to such differing forces.

How do the observations of that experiment support your "point of view", particularly about there being no pulling forces.

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Joten, oletko todella kokeillut tätä köysikokeilua vielä?


Jos ei, miksi ei?


Jos on, niin miksi et ilmoittanut, mitä löysit?

Se osoittaisi selkeästi vetovoiman ja työntövoimien välisen eron. Erityisesti materiaaleista, jotka hyvin reagoivat eri tavoin eriarvoisiin voimavaroihin.

Kuinka tämän kokeilun havainnot tukevat sinun "näkökulmastasi", etenkään siitä, että ei ole vetovoimia.
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Old 20th March 2018, 12:32 PM   #3749
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Heh heh heh.

The Man, you keep copy that text

"So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?"


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?"


and put here agan and again.

Why you dont copy your expanding space explanation and put here again and again?!?

Yes, it is because you know it is handwaving from you.

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Heh heh heh.

The Man, you keep copy that text

"So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?"


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?"


and put here agan and again.

Why you dont copy your expanding space explanation and put here again and again?!?

Yes, it is because you know it is handwaving from you.

Nope, I don't keep a copies of that or any of the text.


So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?

It would clearly demonstrate the difference between pulling and pushing forces. Particularly on materials that, well, react differently to such differing forces.

How do the observations of that experiment support your "point of view", particularly about there being no pulling forces.

Anteeksi en voi edes jäsentää sitä viimeistä bittiä.

Joten, oletko todella kokeillut tätä köysikokeilua vielä?


Jos ei, miksi ei?


Jos on, niin miksi et ilmoittanut, mitä löysit?

Se osoittaisi selkeästi vetovoiman ja työntövoimien välisen eron. Erityisesti materiaaleista, jotka hyvin reagoivat eri tavoin eriarvoisiin voimavaroihin.

Kuinka tämän kokeilun havainnot tukevat sinun "näkökulmastasi", etenkään siitä, että ei ole vetovoimia.
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Old 20th March 2018, 01:54 PM   #3751
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Rope experiment / Randi / Stephen Hawking dont understund! -

https://youtu.be/Nw53G5buuyI

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Old 20th March 2018, 02:16 PM   #3752
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Thumbs down A 4 year old lie that a 2014 video has any experiment at all

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
Rope experiment / Randi / Stephen Hawking dont understund! -
A 4 year old lie that a 2014 video has any experiment at all !
Starts with a compass with a string attached on a board. Stupidity about coins, cartoons, the usual delusions, etc. At some point the compass is taken off the board. No experiment.

A lie that Randi would not understand high school physics (pulling forces such as gravity exist).

A lie that Stephen Hawking did not understand high school physics (pulling forces such as gravity exist).

Finnish physics crackpot with no known mathematical ability, little knowledge of physics shown, lots of hand waving and some primitive videos, lies about science being a religion, a lie of no observsions for expanding space, an irrational demand for the impossible, a lie that Newton did not explain gravity (Einstein did), a lie that pulling forces have not been measured, repeated idiocy of quoting obviously deluded and irrelevant comments on blogs, the ignorant delusion that gravity does not have an inverse square law, a total delusion that supermassive black holes emit dark matter.
+ a lie that Stephen Hawking did not understand basic physics (gravity )
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
Rope experiment / Randi / Stephen Hawking dont understund! -

https://youtu.be/Nw53G5buuyI

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Once again, the rope/string is not fully extended in that video as required by the experimental parameters.

Again, that you try to posit you pushing something with a bit of string between it and your finger as the intended experiment simply confirms that you already do know why the experiment would fail (pushing and pulling force can affect materials differently). Once again hoist by your own petard. The video simply confirms you know or at least suspect what will happen if you actually tried the experiment.

So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?

It would clearly demonstrate the difference between pulling and pushing forces. Particularly on materials that, well, react differently to such differing forces.

How do the observations of that experiment support your "point of view", particularly about there being no pulling forces.

Anteeksi en voi edes jäsentää sitä viimeistä bittiä.

Joten, oletko todella kokeillut tätä köysikokeilua vielä?


Jos ei, miksi ei?


Jos on, niin miksi et ilmoittanut, mitä löysit?

Se osoittaisi selkeästi vetovoiman ja työntövoimien välisen eron. Erityisesti materiaaleista, jotka hyvin reagoivat eri tavoin eriarvoisiin voimavaroihin.

Kuinka tämän kokeilun havainnot tukevat sinun "näkökulmastasi", etenkään siitä, että ei ole vetovoimia.
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Old 20th March 2018, 02:57 PM   #3754
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The Man, you keep copy that text

"So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?"


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?"


and put here again and again.

Why you dont copy your expanding space explanation and put here again and again?!?

Yes, it is because you know it is handwaving from you.

Expanding space is not even naked empire!

It is god which dont exist!

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The Man, you keep copy that text

"So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?"


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?"


and put here again and again.

Why you dont copy your expanding space explanation and put here again and again?!?

Yes, it is because you know it is handwaving from you.

Expanding space is not even naked empire!

It is god which dont exist!

.
Nope, that has been explained to you before as well. That you ignore even just that explanation and continue to ask "why" is certainly no inducement to do the thread search for you. Heck, you even have the relevant words to search for, again indicating you do know you have been given such explanations of "expanding space". Do your own searching for what you demonstrate you already know has been given to you.


So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?

It would clearly demonstrate the difference between pulling and pushing forces. Particularly on materials that, well, react differently to such differing forces.

How do the observations of that experiment support your "point of view", particularly about there being no pulling forces.

Anteeksi en voi edes jäsentää sitä viimeistä bittiä.

Joten, oletko todella kokeillut tätä köysikokeilua vielä?


Jos ei, miksi ei?


Jos on, niin miksi et ilmoittanut, mitä löysit?

Se osoittaisi selkeästi vetovoiman ja työntövoimien välisen eron. Erityisesti materiaaleista, jotka hyvin reagoivat eri tavoin eriarvoisiin voimavaroihin.

Kuinka tämän kokeilun havainnot tukevat sinun "näkökulmastasi", etenkään siitä, että ei ole vetovoimia.
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Old 20th March 2018, 09:49 PM   #3756
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The Man, you keep copy that text

"So, have you actually tried that rope experiment yet?"


If not, why not?


If so, why haven't you reported what you found?"


and put here again and again.

Why you dont copy your expanding space explanation and put here again and again?!?

Yes, it is because you know it is handwaving from you.

Expanding space is not even naked empire!

It is god which dont exist!


And yes. I make even video where i pushing with rope and where i explain what happening in rope when i pushing rope.

Rope experiment / Randi / Stephen Hawking dont understund! -

https://youtu.be/Nw53G5buuyI


Now you can make a video where you explain expanding space.

I think that you dont make a video because you know that yours explanation is handwaving.

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Old 21st March 2018, 01:39 AM   #3757
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Neutroni from www.tiede.fi forum is first person ever who try to explain expanding space with words for me.

Check it out

"I'm not very familiar with vector space and even less on teaching them to the umbilicals."

"No space needs any space, I can define an infinite set of space if needed, although how multi-dimensional and dynamic"

"Then space is transformed as a function of time, for example, it can grow, so each point of the space moves all the way from the center of expansion (now we think of a common Euclidean 3D space that is easy to perceive, even if it expands). two space dots move in relation to each other (the proper motion movement), the distance between them (thought of the "ordinary" Euclidean distance, which can be measured even with a ruler), is also changing, but points are still parts of space, space, space objects."

"so each point of the space moves all the way from the center of expansion"

I just wonder where is that place where this each point of the space moves?!? Behind expanding space is other space?!?



Neutroni:

"En minä ole perehtynyt kovin syvällisesti vektoriavaruuksiin ja vielä vähemmän niiden opettamiseen ummikoille."

"Ei avaruus tarvitse mitään paikkaa. Minä voin määritellä vaika äärettömän joukon avaruuksia, jos tarvitaan. Vaikka kuinka moniulotteisia ja dynaamisia"

"Sitten laitetaan avaruus muuttumaan ajan funktiona. Se voi esimerkiksi kasvaa, jolloin avaruuden jokainen piste liikkuu koko ajan kauemmas laajenemisen keskipisteestä (ajatellaan nyt ihan tavallista euklidista 3D-avaruutta, joka on helppo hahmottaa, vaikka se laajenisi). Nyt voidaan tietyssä mielessä sanoa, että kaksi avaruuden pistettä liikkuu toistensa suhteen (proper motion -liikettä). Niiden välimatka (ajatellaan sitä "tavallista" euklidista etäsiyyttä, jota voi mitata vaikka viivoittimella) muuttuu myös. Mutta pisteet ovat edelleen avaruuden osia, eli avaruutta, eivät avaruudessa olevia objekteja."

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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
Neutroni from www.tiede.fi forum is first person ever who try to explain expanding space with words for me.

Check it out

"I'm not very familiar with vector space and even less on teaching them to the umbilicals.".........
From the context, I assume he meant "imbeciles".
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From the context, I assume he meant "imbeciles".
Maybe, well what you think, what he means with that?

"so each point of the space moves all the way from the center of expansion"

I just wonder where is that place where this each point of the space moves?!? Behind expanding space is other space?!?

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Maybe, well what you think, what he means with that?.....
I made it very clear that I was interpreting what HE had attempted to say, and was casting no aspersions of my own. "Umbilical" is clearly the wrong word in that context, given that it means a cord to connect a placenta to an unborn infant mammal.
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