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Old 5th March 2018, 01:42 PM   #561
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ULA managed to screw up the paperwork, but they were carrying a government payload, so they gazumped the SpaceX launch. Now going to be tomorrow morning. No landing attempt though, the seas are too rough and it was going to be marginal anyway.
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Old 5th March 2018, 02:34 PM   #562
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ULA managed to screw up the paperwork, but they were carrying a government payload, so they gazumped the SpaceX launch. Now going to be tomorrow morning. No landing attempt though, the seas are too rough and it was going to be marginal anyway.
I have read its no landing attempt because the orbit the payload is going into does not permit it (not enough fuel reserve for the boostback & entry burns)
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Old 5th March 2018, 05:01 PM   #563
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I have read its no landing attempt because the orbit the payload is going into does not permit it (not enough fuel reserve for the boostback & entry burns)
It would have been an experimental landing with very low margins, but they were going to attempt one, it was called off due to weather.
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Old 5th March 2018, 06:13 PM   #564
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It would have been an experimental landing with very low margins, but they were going to attempt one, it was called off due to weather.
Right. They will probably have a go anyway but without JTRI in place, so the core will splash (like they did a few weeks ago).
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Old 6th March 2018, 04:04 PM   #565
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Right. They will probably have a go anyway but without JTRI in place, so the core will splash (like they did a few weeks ago).
They did a three engine landing burn, but the grid fins had been removed. They are still gathering data for FH centre core recovery. If they can achieve consistent three engine landing burns on the ADAS then they can push the working envelope for FH even further.

The latest launch was significantly heavier than anything they had launched to GTO, but they had been willing to attempt a risky landing. C'est la vie, the sea state scotched that idea.
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Old 11th March 2018, 04:13 PM   #566
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There he goes again

Short trips to Mars 'next year'

Originally Posted by BBC News
Elon Musk, a man prone to ludicrous deadlines, has birthed another: a mission to Mars in 2019.

"I think we’ll be able to do short flights, up and down flights, some time in the first half of next year," he told an audience at the South by South West (SXSW) festival in Austin, Texas.

He said it was vital humans reached the Red Planet before the next "probable" world war.

A Mars colony, he said, would reduce the chance of an extended new Dark Ages if a nuclear conflict was to wipe out life on Earth.

But, aware of his reputation, he added: "Sometimes my timelines are a little... y’know."...
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43367191
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Old 11th March 2018, 06:29 PM   #567
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Short trips to Mars 'next year'



http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43367191
I'm not reading that the way you are. The headline doesn't say what you think it says

"Short trips to Mars 'next year'" is not the same thing as "Mars ship test flights 'next year'"

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Must said "I think we’ll be able to do short flights, up and down flights, some time in the first half of next year,"
This sounds like testing of the BFR to me, the same sort of thing he did with Falcon 9 cores and the Dragon capsule... ie. lift off and land to test landing systems.


IMO, you need to check your reading comprehension.
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Old 11th March 2018, 06:31 PM   #568
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He's talking about test flights for the BFR into orbit and back, not actual flights to Mars. (What would a "short flight" to mars even mean?).

I still think it's not likely they'll meet that deadline, but it's very different from thinking he said they'd go to Mars next year which your bolded text implies.

ETA Ninja'd. And yeah, I think smartcooky is right and I was misaken: these test flights wouldn't even be going to orbit.
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Old 11th March 2018, 06:39 PM   #569
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Better check on exactly what he said because he may have said Mars for next year.
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Old 11th March 2018, 06:52 PM   #570
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BBC seems to be the only ones with that kind of headline. But Musk did crack a joke about his own timeline(s). Maybe that's his way of saying don't make bets on it.
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Old 11th March 2018, 07:00 PM   #571
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
BBC seems to be the only ones with that kind of headline. But Musk did crack a joke about his own timeline(s). Maybe that's his way of saying don't make bets on it.
Yes, because just getting BFR to the point of doing test flights will be a huge achievement and I don't think they are likely to get there by next year.

Whoever wrote the BBC article may have misunderstood what he said, but based on Musk's actual words there's no implication of a flight to Mars next year.
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LOL! In the time since I posted the link the BBC has changed the headline.
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This was the exact original BBC headline...

Originally Posted by BBC News
Elon Musk: Short trips to Mars 'next year'
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I don't disbelieve you but I am surprised that the Beeb would make such a mistake.

Now, if we were talking about the Flail....
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Old 11th March 2018, 07:42 PM   #575
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I don't disbelieve you but I am surprised that the Beeb would make such a mistake.

Now, if we were talking about the Flail....
They did and here is the proof...

Originally Posted by BBC News
Correction: An earlier version of this article said the test flights would be 'to Mars'. While Mr Musk eventually intends to reach the planet, next year's tests will involve trial runs of the ship into space.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43367191
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They did and here is the proof...



http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43367191

Kinda suggests that using headlines ... anybody's headlines ... as the basis for serious criticism of someone's statements may not be the most useful data set.
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
Kinda suggests that using headlines ... anybody's headlines ... as the basis for serious criticism of someone's statements may not be the most useful data set.

Amen to that!!
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First full-duration static fire of a Block 5 booster reported at McGregor - booster should be on the road soon, down to the Cape.

5 Launches planned for April, although slips are likely, the cadence for 2018 looks like it could be a real inflection point for the industry.
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Old 23rd March 2018, 02:34 AM   #579
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First full-duration static fire of a Block 5 booster reported at McGregor - booster should be on the road soon, down to the Cape.

5 Launches planned for April, although slips are likely, the cadence for 2018 looks like it could be a real inflection point for the industry.
Second Block 5 booster spotted leaving Hawthorne yesterday.

The SteamRoller continues.
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SpaceX secure 10 year lease on a huge waterfront lot for the manufacture of large commercial vehicles (read: BFR).

SpaceX has previously talked about building BFR either at the launch site or next to water to allow barge transport. Looks like they've decided to stay in LA.

https://www.teslarati.com/spacexs-fi...ort-la-photos/
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