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Old 28th January 2018, 05:45 PM   #41
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Not about to be shoved back into a bottle anytime soon, and incapable of doing the same, or capable but with difficulty, are three entirely different things.

We know how to fix it. It's not even difficult. In fact it can even be done at a profit.

Will we do it? Unlikely. But the reason it is unlikely in my opinion, as Neoluddites are not willing to give up their billions in subsidies for types of agriculture that cause AGW any more than the fossil fuel companies are willing to give up their subsidies, has nothing to do with difficulty sequestering CO2.

Can we? Yes
Will we? Unlikely
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Old 11th February 2018, 02:15 PM   #42
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El Niño/La Niña

Looks like we've still got La Nina conditions lingering, though that seems to be shifting/transitional right now, and is most likely to become ENSO - neutral by spring...:

EL NIÑO/SOUTHERN OSCILLATION (ENSO) DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...ensodisc.shtml

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Synopsis: A transition from La Niña to ENSO-neutral is most likely during the Northern Hemisphere spring (~55% chance of ENSO-neutral during the March-May season)...

La Niña is anticipated to continue affecting temperature and precipitation across the United States during the next few months (the 3-month seasonal temperature and precipitation outlooks will be updated on Thursday February 15th). The outlooks generally favor above-average temperatures and below-median precipitation across the southern tier of the United States, and below-average temperatures and above-median precipitation across the northern tier of the United States...
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Old 11th February 2018, 04:07 PM   #43
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I can attest to the latter First time in a decade I'm not Down Under
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Old 11th February 2018, 10:30 PM   #44
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I can attest to the latter First time in a decade I'm not Down Under
I can understand that, I'm more in the N. Cal., S. Ore region, though I am contemplating a N. Wa move in the next decade, so the precip rates are more an issue, but it's helping (so far) more than hurting, with some bad luck, it could get less pleasant with a minor ripple of the jet stream (or wiggle of the climate "MoJO" - https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...why-do-we-care -).
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Old 13th February 2018, 12:11 PM   #45
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Confirmation that sea level rise is accelerating.

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/02/06/1717312115
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Old 14th February 2018, 04:15 PM   #46
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Swinging jet stream is crazy as Arctic intrusions to the south alternate with too warm.

-15 last night, +5 today going to +10 next week. Very odd Feb....yet very warm again in the Arctic

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Is warming in the Arctic behind this year's crazy winter weather?

Jan 11, 2018 - A very new and “hot topic” in climate change research is the notion that rapid warming and wholesale melting of the Arctic may be playing a role in causing persistent cold spells ... Weird and destructive weather was in the news almost constantly during 2017, and 2018 seems to be following the same script.
https://theconversation.com/is-warmi...-weather-89740

gets expensive this erratic weather

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Billion-Dollar Weather and Climate Disasters: Overview
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Old 1st March 2018, 04:43 AM   #47
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Soil cannot halt climate change
Long-term field experiments, dating back as far as 1843, demonstrate that modern carbon emissions cannot be locked in the ground to halt global warming
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Rothamsted Research
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Unique soils data from long-term experiments, stretching back to the middle of the nineteenth century, confirm the practical implausibility of burying carbon in the ground to halt climate change. The idea of using crops to collect more atmospheric carbon and locking it into soil's organic matter to offset fossil fuel emissions was launched at COP21, the 21st annual Conference of Parties to review the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change in Paris in 2015.
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0228134114.htm

Meanwhile back in the real world.

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3 days ago - On the northern tip of Greenland, the Cape Morris Jesup meteorological site has had a record-smashing 61 hours of temperatures above freezing so far in 2018, linked to a rare retreat of sea ice in the Arctic winter darkness. “It's never been this extreme,” said Ruth Mottram, a climate scientist at the Danish ...
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Old 1st March 2018, 05:52 AM   #48
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Ok so let's plant 5-6 billion trees...
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Old 1st March 2018, 07:14 AM   #49
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pittance

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3.04 trillion trees
The study found that there are around 3.04 trillion trees
and we are losing more than that

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Around 15 billion are lost every year due to deforestation, forest management and changes in land use, the research published in the journal Nature found.

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Old 1st March 2018, 06:02 PM   #50
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pittance



and we are losing more than that
Astounding.
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Old 11th March 2018, 01:40 PM   #51
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Impact on ocean nutrient flow ....better buy fishing rights near the Antarctic ....climate change is erecting a trade barrier...

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FLOODING, HEAT WAVES, AND DESTABILIZED ECOSYSTEMS: HERE'S WHAT THE NEXT 100 YEARS OF CLIMATE CHANGE COULD BRING

A new study predicts a steep drop in fisheries' production. It's the latest in a growing body of research to show how changes to the Earth's ecosystems will cause disruption to its inhabitants.
https://psmag.com/environment/climate-change-timeline

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The disappearance of sea ice disrupts the flow of nutrients to northern marine ecosystems, says study author J. Keith Moore, a professor of Earth system science at the University of California–Irvine and one of the developers of the Community Earth System Model that enables researchers to predict further into the future. As the ice melts, the production of phytoplankton, a microscopic plant-like organism at the bottom of the marine food chain, increases around Antarctica. However, as the ice melts, the phytoplankton absorb more sunlight and trap more nutrients in the Antarctic sea area. This causes significantly more nutrients to sink to the deep southern ocean instead of moving northward to other marine ecosystems. "In upper oceans, everywhere to the north, you start to see this steadily declining nutrient concentration," Moore says.
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Impact on ocean nutrient flow ....better buy fishing rights near the Antarctic ....climate change is erecting a trade barrier...



https://psmag.com/environment/climate-change-timeline

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I wonder about the extent of the willingness of the international community to establish a shifting network of global, protected, international, aquaculture nurseries and a system of sustainable international harvest seasons/permits/policing. Regardless of whether or not they want to deal (seriously and appropriately) with the causes of climate change, they are going to have to adapt to the realities of climate change consequences.
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