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Old 15th July 2017, 01:39 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
Hannity Blames Obama And Blackmail For Trump Jr's Meeting With The Russians

So which is it, the Russian attorney only wanted to talk about adoptions, or she was a Kremlin operative that Obama let in the country?

Hannity and Sekulow would have it both ways.

Just more of the same "Look over there." technique.

It doesn't matter who set the trap or who baited it. The only salient fact is that Junior took the bait.

Hook.

Line.

And sinker.
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Old 15th July 2017, 01:47 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
Huh?


From my view. Trump is clearly guilty of obstruction. It's not even close any more. There is too much there there. That said, I don't think there is a chance in hell he is prosecuted or impeached for this as long as the GOP controls the House. This is a hell of a lot more than what they had on Nixon.

They are going to have to show Trump giving Putin a blow job before people turn against him.

I doubt that would work either.

His boosters would just say he was improving our relations with other countries, and the Trumpettes would all go, "Wow! Good work, Donald."

You have to remember that it's only wrong if it's a Democrat who does something.
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Old 15th July 2017, 04:09 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by C_Felix View Post
And, based on what is in there, any and all meetings must be public. The commission already held a closed telephone conference meeting and plans on meeting in a closed session on Wed the 19th.
Interesting, but wrong thread perhaps?
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Old 15th July 2017, 04:20 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
Yes, the Dems decided on blackmail, and then didn't act on any of the information provided to allow Trump to win the election, so they could float this Nothing Burger a year later.
When you put it like that it does seem a bit silly.
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Old 15th July 2017, 04:32 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
I doubt that would work either.

His boosters would just say he was improving our relations with other countries, and the Trumpettes would all go, "Wow! Good work, Donald."

You have to remember that it's only wrong if it's a Democrat who does something.
No, if he shot someone, they would say he's just exercising his 2nd Amendment rights. But they wouldn't be havin none of that gay sex with a commie.
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Old 15th July 2017, 05:11 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
Fox has probably realised that they might even look silly amongst their viewers if Don Sr accidentally tweets a confession, or lets it slip some other way.

It is getting to the point where it is difficult to keep up with the negative breaking news and revelations on Trump, his administration, and family! What more will be revealed by this time next week? If the meeting count continues to rise, it may well be because Russian-speaking attendees outnumber English-speaking attendees.

It is my opinion that Trump Sr. was aware of Trump Jr.'s meeting in June 2016, which may be revealed at a later date as investigations continue.
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Old 15th July 2017, 05:21 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
I liked this very obvious one

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And then, third, we have a significant number of inconsistencies in the statements that have been made by Donald Trump Jr., and a number of other people, about their contacts with the Russians. And anyone who has made false statements to the United States government about their contacts with the Russians would be guilty of making false statements, under the false statement statute, 18, United States Code 1001.

Six months in office and lies have been flowing from the White House like a raging river. Nothing but controversy, turmoil, lies, and chaos since Trump was elected president.
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Six months in office and lies have been flowing from the White House like a raging river. Nothing but controversy, turmoil, lies, and chaos since Trump was elected president.
I expected nothing less from the liberal media. it must be heart wrenching to keep reporting these nothing burgers.
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Old 15th July 2017, 05:44 PM   #49
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I expected nothing less from the liberal media. it must be heart wrenching to keep reporting these nothing burgers.
Do you have anything to say about the specifics of the meetings and the e-mail exchanges between Trump Jr and his correspondants? They mentioned the Russian government helping Trump against the Democrats, did they not?
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
Trump talks out of his ass and your lips start singing the tune.
His posts make more sense when you realise that he doesn't actually believe what he writes, but rather is just trying to p.o. liberals.
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I expected nothing less from the liberal media. it must be heart wrenching to keep reporting these nothing burgers.
Yeah right. If Hillary had done all this you would be screaming for her head.
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Do you have anything to say about the specifics of the meetings and the e-mail exchanges between Trump Jr and his correspondants? They mentioned the Russian government helping Trump against the Democrats, did they not?
He doesn't acknowledge the emails.
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Do you have anything to say about the specifics of the meetings and the e-mail exchanges between Trump Jr and his correspondants? They mentioned the Russian government helping Trump against the Democrats, did they not?
He mentioned it? lol, you cannot be serious.

Did he also mention the lady was a fraud and that she had no meaningful information. Would have been great if she had. Trump jr could have turned it over to the FBI in time for Comey to say "sigh" "no credible prosecutor would want to pursue this"

The leftist clown car rolls on.
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Yeah right. If Hillary had done all this you would be screaming for her head.
Agreed, would the MSM be acting the same?

I wonder when it will come out that Hillarys team did talk to this lady and other Russian officials?
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Trump talks out of his ass and your lips start singing the tune.
Oh look another uncivil post, lets see what happens
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He doesn't acknowledge the emails.
Lol

Sure, they're called a nothing burger.
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His posts make more sense when you realise that he doesn't actually believe what he writes, but rather is just trying to p.o. liberals.
I think he believes what he says AND he likes pissing off liberals. It's not mutually exclusive.
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Some DNC hack got successfully trolled by RT advertisement at Moscow airport.

MISSED A PLANE? LOST AN ELECTION? BLAME IT ON US!
THE LONGER YOU WATCH, THE MORE UPSET HILLARY CLINTON BECOMES
COME CLOSER AND FIND OUT WHO WE ARE PLANNING TO HACK NEXT
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Old 15th July 2017, 06:08 PM   #59
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He mentioned it? lol, you cannot be serious.
Have you read the e-mails or not? Those were released by Jr himself. They discuss information from the Russian government with the intent of helping Trump in the election. It says so right there.

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Did he also mention the lady was a fraud and that she had no meaningful information. Would have been great if she had. Trump jr could have turned it over to the FBI in time for Comey to say "sigh" "no credible prosecutor would want to pursue this"
He should've called the FBI especially if she had information. That he didn't, and lied repeatedly to try to keep the whole deal secret from the public shows that he knows he did something very wrong.

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Some DNC hack got successfully trolled by RT advertisement at Moscow airport.

MISSED A PLANE? LOST AN ELECTION? BLAME IT ON US!
THE LONGER YOU WATCH, THE MORE UPSET HILLARY CLINTON BECOMES
COME CLOSER AND FIND OUT WHO WE ARE PLANNING TO HACK NEXT
Maybe if you didn't get all your news from a Russian network you might be a bit more objective about this whole affair.
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His posts make more sense when you realise that he doesn't actually believe what he writes, but rather is just trying to p.o. liberals.
Oh, absolutely. He admitted as much a few months back. I'd really like to know how he truly feels about the whole affair, however. You know, a moment of honesty.
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Some DNC hack got successfully trolled by RT advertisement at Moscow airport.

MISSED A PLANE? LOST AN ELECTION? BLAME IT ON US!
THE LONGER YOU WATCH, THE MORE UPSET HILLARY CLINTON BECOMES
COME CLOSER AND FIND OUT WHO WE ARE PLANNING TO HACK NEXT
Note, that it is Republican led committees in the House and Senate as well as a Special Prosecutor appointed by this administration that are investigating Donald Trump and those around him. All the intelligence agencies say that Russia was actively working to get Trump elected. This HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HILLARY.
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Agreed, would the MSM be acting the same?
Of course they would be. Can you say Ben Gazzi or email server or Clinton Foundation?

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I wonder when it will come out that Hillarys team did talk to this lady and other Russian officials?
You think? Or is that just being wishful?
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Have you read the e-mails or not? Those were released by Jr himself. They discuss information from the Russian government with the intent of helping Trump in the election. It says so right there.
Yes I read them, I didn't see any information from the Russian government.


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He should've called the FBI especially if she had information. That he didn't, and lied repeatedly to try to keep the whole deal secret from the public shows that he knows he did something very wrong.
The FBI? What was he going to tell them. He met with a Russian lawyer given status by the Obama administration who says she has dirt on Clinton but actually did not?


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Well, that gives you a chance to enlighten us?

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Maybe if you didn't get all your news from a Russian network you might be a bit more objective about this whole affair.

Twitter isn't a Russian network.
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Of course they would be. Can you say Ben Gazzi or email server or Clinton Foundation?
Two that were in terrible need of a special counsel.


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Experience with the left, when they accuse they have usually already been knee deep in it.
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Twitter isn't a Russian network.
RT is though.
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Note, that it is Republican led committees in the House and Senate as well as a Special Prosecutor appointed by this administration that are investigating Donald Trump and those around him. All the intelligence agencies say that Russia was actively working to get Trump elected. This HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HILLARY.
How exactly were they actively working to get Trump elected? Handing over hacked emails? Says a lot about candidate Clinton!
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All the intelligence agencies say that Russia was actively working to get Trump elected.

Given that I've posted extensively on the "17 agencies" nonsense including retractions from NYT and AP, that looks like a blatant lie. tsk tsk.

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This HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HILLARY.

But it has to do with DNC hacks, and leaks. And scapegoats. And mockery.
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RT is though.

I didn't source RT, I sourced twitter. What's up with you and that lack of attention?
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Two that were in terrible need of a special counsel.
Apparently not.



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Experience with the left, when they accuse they have usually already been knee deep in it.
Everything with you is tu quoque. Absolutely refuse to admit that Trump's been in bed with them Russkies.
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What's up with you and that lack of attention?
He and others are quite invested in this.
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I didn't source RT, I sourced twitter. What's up with you and that lack of attention?
Note that it was RT that was trolling Hillary.
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Twitter isn't a Russian network.
...you can't possibly be this dense. YOU mentioned RT, remember?

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That's about as weak as junior's excuses.
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Everything with you is tu quoque. Absolutely refuse to admit that Trump's been in bed with them Russkies.
Because critical thinking usually involves facts instead of wishing.
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Yes I read them, I didn't see any information from the Russian government.
Perhaps you selectively ignored the uncomfortable parts, then:

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Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
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The FBI? What was he going to tell them.
"Hello, we were contacted, alledgedly by Russian agents who wanted to communicate possibly illegal information in order to influence the elections. Here are their names and e-mail addresses."

Since this was most assuredly shady, the best thing to do was contact the authorities, not check out the info.

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What? Are you even trying anymore?
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Given that I've posted extensively on the "17 agencies" nonsense including retractions from NYT and AP, that looks like a blatant lie. tsk tsk.
What makes you think that you have credibility?
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...you can't possibly be this dense. YOU mentioned RT, remember?
Dense? She linked a twitter account that showed an RT advertisement. Are you not understanding that?

That was quite funny!
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Because critical thinking usually involves facts instead of wishing.
I'm glad you recognize that. They say that the first step is realizing you have a problem.
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What makes you think that you have credibility?
It's not about her credibility? It's about what she posted! How do you not get that???
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He and others are quite invested in this.

Understatement of the season.
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