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Old 13th November 2017, 11:14 AM   #361
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
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That's not what that tweet says. He's saying he's bought 500 from a different company and will give them away to the people who post the best videos of them smashing their already-owned Kreuig ones.
You're right. That's slightly better?
Unless the replacement ones that he's buying still use K-cups, in which case Keurig is still benefiting due to whatever profits they get from the sale of the K-cups themselves.

Could go with Tassimo, but then from what I understand they have a smaller selection of coffee flavors.
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Old 13th November 2017, 11:21 AM   #362
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Could go with Tassimo, but then from what I understand they have a smaller selection of coffee flavors.
I doubt that factored into the decision on which replacement makers to buy. They probably only specified that it doesn't use Keurig products. It would be hilarious if they bought another maker that was owned by JAB Holding Company.
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Old 13th November 2017, 11:27 AM   #363
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Unless the replacement ones that he's buying still use K-cups, in which case Keurig is still benefiting due to whatever profits they get from the sale of the K-cups themselves.

Could go with Tassimo, but then from what I understand they have a smaller selection of coffee flavors.
There are also off brand K cups that lack the color rim on them to. So not all K cups give keurig money.
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Old 13th November 2017, 11:30 AM   #364
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These things take time. I don't follow it all that closely. It's all over the news, so you can't miss it, and I happened to hear his Hannity interview the other day, which was, all by itself, enough to convince me he was a lying creep.
Looks like even some Fox commentators think that Moore is too distasteful to support. (Or more likely that he just can't win so they need to distance themselves to pretend to take the high ground.)

From: http://verifiedpolitics.com/entire-h...ox-news-watch/

Geraldo Rivera: “The credibility of the parties is the most relevant thing you can think of, and I pictured Roy Moore sitting in the witness chair and you asking him those questions. And hearing his denials, his non-denial denials… Sean, you ended Roy Moore’s candidacy…”

Greg Jarett: “I found his answers to be implausible, his story to be, in a word, unbelievable, which means he’s lying. He’s not telling the truth.”

Rebecca Rose Woodland: “My instinct is that these girls are not lying. I had a feeling about [the wrongly accused] Duke lacrosse players, and we were right, but my feeling here is, these girls do not have a reason to lie.”
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Old 13th November 2017, 11:48 AM   #365
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Could go with Tassimo, but then from what I understand they have a smaller selection of coffee flavors.
I doubt that factored into the decision on which replacement makers to buy. They probably only specified that it doesn't use Keurig products. It would be hilarious if they bought another maker that was owned by JAB Holding Company.
Actually we have no idea at this time what exactly the plan is for the replacement coffee makers.

There are 2 possibilities:

- They are non-Keurig makers that still use K-cups. Result: people still make the same coffee (and if the user buys k-cups associated with Keurig, they still profit.) Then we can laugh at Hannity for pulling a stunt that backfired on him.

- They buy some sort of alternative coffee makers (Tassimo, or straight-up coffee machines with the paper filters, etc.) Result: People end up with a less-than-ideal coffee maker. We can then laugh at the idiots who destroyed their coffee makers and as a result don't have the same selection of coffees. (Assuming that the persion selected keurig in the first place because they thought it was the best option available.)
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
(Assuming that the persion selected keurig in the first place because they thought it was the best option available.)

Well, they clearly already believe in a lot of other woo, so there's a good chance they believe this as well.
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Old 13th November 2017, 11:51 AM   #367
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So she wouldn't have reported it unless the liberal WP convinced her to? In other words, both "sides" are right -- he did it, but it is only news today because people want to hurt him politically (which does affect the "purity" of the left wing politicos stammering about the awfulness of it.)

Which is what the right wing did when Clinton was pegged for (legal) sexual dalliances during his administration. No concern but to get rid of him.
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Old 13th November 2017, 11:53 AM   #368
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Unless the replacement ones that he's buying still use K-cups, in which case Keurig is still benefiting due to whatever profits they get from the sale of the K-cups themselves.
There are also off brand K cups that lack the color rim on them to. So not all K cups give keurig money.
Well, given the fact that we're talking about Fox news viewers, I rather suspect that they're not too bright and wouldn't understand the difference. So, they'd probably keep using whatever coffee they had been using (if they used keurig brand, they'd keep using them; if they were already using non-keurig, they would just use them.)
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I really hate the idea that people might choose their coffee makers based on some sort of political calculation.
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Old 13th November 2017, 11:55 AM   #370
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I really hate the idea that people might choose their coffee makers based on some sort of political calculation.
You sure as hell wouldn't pick those for the coffee.
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Old 13th November 2017, 11:56 AM   #371
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So she wouldn't have reported it unless the liberal WP convinced her to? In other words, both "sides" are right -- he did it, but it is only news today because people want to hurt him politically (which does affect the "purity" of the left wing politicos stammering about the awfulness of it.)
Could you walk me through the logic you used to arrive at this bizarre moral equivalency?
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Old 13th November 2017, 11:58 AM   #372
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Guess Mr. Moore's is not the first heart broken:
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Could you walk me through the logic you used to arrive at this bizarre moral equivalency?
There is no moral equivalency. Did you not read the rest of my post?
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if you think that then you are completely ignorant of the religion.
Actually, I think he hit the nail on the head. As I understand it, belief in the Lord Jesus, confers forgiveness of sins, as long as you repent the sins. Non-believers are judged on the law, and "the law" means all the Old Testament crap that no human that ever lived could possibly live up to.
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Actually, I think he hit the nail on the head. As I understand it, belief in the Lord Jesus, confers forgiveness of sins, as long as you repent the sins. Non-believers are judged on the law, and "the law" means all the Old Testament crap that no human that ever lived could possibly live up to.

And having been raised Evangelical Christian, I can say that they're still doing it wrong. Forgiveness involves confession and repentance, acceptance of any temporal consequences, and making reparations where possible. Denial, lack of repentance, and refusal to acknowledge responsibility is not consistent with the Christian ideal. Forgiveness also belongs to God and the victim, not uninvolved bystanders. The fact that he denies or tries to justify the allegations shows no repentance, and a total lack of confession. The fact that he doesn't recuse himself from holding public office and representing his community further shows a lack of willingness to abide by scripture and accept the consequences of his actions.

And if he remains unrepentant of wrongdoing, he also risks expulsion from the church per scripture. Not that many modern churches give a flying rat's ass about scripture these days, especially not Evangelicals. All they care about are the bits and pieces they can cherry pick to justify their prejudices and greed.
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Just one more bit of evidence that McConnell is a dirty, no-good RINO. Of course RINO now means any Republican who shows the slightest sign of human decency.
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Friends, when Roy “Did He or Dinty” Moore came back into the room, clad in his tighties, his intentions were clear: he just wanted to have some cosplay fun. Him, as Captain Underpants, and her as a 14-year-old girl dressed in nothing but her bra and panties, like, y’know, a porn star. Why, it couldn’t be more innocent.[/i]
While I more or less shrug off the 16-year-olds, it bothered me that he called the 14-year-old a liar, based on the scenario having a ring of truth. Now, that's not a very skeptical standard, I know. Still, it was a detail that was all too easy to imagine, and why make that up? It sounds like the behavior of someone who figures getting down to underpants isn't as sinful as striding out in all his male glory.
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A new victim has come forward. Moore called it:
Roy Moore: "I'm sure in the next four weeks they're gonna come out with another article."
Or he remembers his past behavior much better than he's letting on.
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The year book thing, meh. If he was a dude who hadn't been accused of chasing after 14 year olds, calling someone a "beautiful girl" wouldn't be worth comment.
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The year book thing, meh. If he was a dude who hadn't been accused of chasing after 14 year olds, calling someone a "beautiful girl" wouldn't be worth comment.
What was he doing writing in her yearbook in the first place? He was just a regular customer at a restaurant where she worked. Even without the 14-year old, that would raise suspicion IMHO.
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It's all a Democrat conspiracy. It was actually Vince Foster who wrote that yearbook entry, to plant material against this upright God-fearing judge, before Hillary murdered him so he couldn't confess the fraud.

Just trying to make up the most ridiculous excuse a member of the Kiddie Fiddling Party GOP could come up with when even Fox won't support this candidate.
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What was he doing writing in her yearbook in the first place? He was just a regular customer at a restaurant where she worked. Even without the 14-year old, that would raise suspicion IMHO.
Yes. Unless it's a local custom, I've never heard of anyone signing yearbooks except schoolmates and teachers.
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The whole story of the press conference on AL.COM, or, if you prefer to read top-down instead of bottom-up, on Heavy.com.
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The year book thing, meh. If he was a dude who hadn't been accused of chasing after 14 year olds, calling someone a "beautiful girl" wouldn't be worth comment.
How many local DA's signed your yearbook?
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How many local DA's signed your yearbook?
The "DA" part is great, it makes it impossible for him to deny the story.

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How many local DA's signed your yearbook?
How did he come to sign the yearbook? Is that info given?
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So she wouldn't have reported it unless the liberal WP convinced her to? In other words, both "sides" are right -- he did it, but it is only news today because people want to hurt him politically (which does affect the "purity" of the left wing politicos stammering about the awfulness of it.)

Which is what the right wing did when Clinton was pegged for (legal) sexual dalliances during his administration. No concern but to get rid of him.
As to Moore, sometimes you gotta throw out the trash before it stinks up the house!!!!!







Or the senate!!!!!
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How did he come to sign the yearbook? Is that info given?
There is a twitter thread about this

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/930159387246825472

She was a waitress at a resturant where she claims Moore assaulted her and where she kept quiet because she feared Moore

[quote]Moore's new accuser, Beverly Young Nelson, says she was 15, a waitress in Gadsden Alabama, at a restaurant where Moore was a regular when he was a district attorney. "I remember exactly where he sat," she says.



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Nelson says Moore would touch her long hair, compliment her looks and flirt with her without her responding. Crying, she says, "I had a boyfriend. Second, even if I had not had a boyfriend, I was not interested in having a dating or sexual relationship with a man twice my age."
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Nelson says Moore asked to write in her yearbook. "He wrote in my yearbook as follows: To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas. Christmas 1977. Love, Roy Moore...and he signed it, Roy Moore, DA."
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Nelson says one night, her boyfriend hadn't showed up to pick her up from the restaurant; Moore noticed; he offered her a ride home; she accepted: "He was the district attorney."
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Nelson, crying: Moore stopped the car, parked "in between the dumpster and the back of the restaurant." She was alarmed. "Instead of answering my question, Mr. Moore reached over and began groping me...putting his hands on my breasts." Then locked the door so she couldn't escape.
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Nelson: "He forced my head onto his crotch. I continued to struggle. I was determined that I was not going to allow him to force me to have sex with him. I was terrified. He was also trying to pull my shirt off. I thought he was going to rape me."
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Nelson says Moore looked at her and said, "You're just a child and I am the district attorney...if you tell anyone about this, no one will ever believe you." Then let her leave. He "burned rubber," she says, leaving her lying on concrete in the dark.
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Moore is saying he is suing the WAPO.
Good luck with that. ..
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More and more this is a win/win for the Democrats....the either pick up a senate seat or the GOP has somebody who will ben albatross and an embarrassment for the party, and who will be the best fundraiser the Democrats ever had....
Winning the seat is, for course the better of the two, but the second is a pretty good consolation prize.
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Interesting in that he was not the DA, but only a Deputy DA.
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Maybe sharia law would fit right in Alabama after all...
Unfortunately yes. And related states.
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Old 13th November 2017, 02:15 PM   #396
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Moore is saying he is suing the WAPO.
Good luck with that. ..
He might file and withdraw after the election since Alabama has no anti-SLAPP legislation but there's no way he lets it get to discovery.
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Old 13th November 2017, 02:18 PM   #397
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
He might file and withdraw after the election since Alabama has no anti-SLAPP legislation but there's no way he lets it get to discovery.
No crap. Bezos could easily outspend Moore when it comes to lawyering up.
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Old 13th November 2017, 02:36 PM   #398
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Originally Posted by LTC8K6 View Post
Interesting in that he was not the DA, but only a Deputy DA.
Wiki calls his function "Assistant District Attorney" and has this enigmatic bit:
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Moore soon moved to the district attorney's office, working as the first full-time prosecutor in Etowah County.
So his boss, the (elected) DA did not work full-time? Weird. And then followed by:
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During his tenure there, Moore was investigated by the state bar for "suspect conduct" after convening a grand jury to examine what he perceived to have been funding shortages in the sheriff's office. Several weeks after the state bar investigation was dismissed as unfounded, Moore quit his prosecuting position to run as a Democrat for the county's circuit-court judge seat in 1982.
Et cetera. His whole law career was one long string of conflicts.
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He certainly was not the District Attorney, though.

Even today that county has a DA, and several Deputy DAs that serve under the DA.
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Old 13th November 2017, 02:54 PM   #400
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Originally Posted by Beerina View Post
There is no moral equivalency. Did you not read the rest of my post?
Yes, I read your whole post. In particular, the parts about both sides being right, and the Left having their purity affected.

Reads a lot like moral equivalency to me.

But hey, maybe it's not. Granting you the benefit of the doubt, could you at least explain how a news organization doing its job somehow affects the purity of those (on the Left) criticizing Moore?
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