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16th May 2016, 11:57 AM | #1 |
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Need Fire Pics
So this twoofer doesn't believe fire in Bld 7 was big enough to cause global collapse. I cant find a decent picture of video since there is so much twoofer garbage polluting google. Have a source?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
Especially after about 2m20s in |
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16th May 2016, 12:47 PM | #5 |
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Hey Jeff!
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I think you posted the same vid twice...
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Steve Spak - DAY OF DISASTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xjgm1ChQI After 4 min (first 4 are of WTC 5 burning) shows WTC 7 from North face (Barclay St) Entire floors fully involved...... |
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Vince DeMentri and his cameraman made it into GZ and got some good video of WTC 7 just 30 minutes or so before it collapsed. As you can see theses small, isolated fires did manage to burn through several floors and spread the width of the building.
WTC 7 shots begin a minute or two in and start at Barclay & Greenwich and down to West Broadway on the south side of the building. |
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Interesting footage, AJM8125. I guess what's seen at 1:36 following is the "six windows" office fire from the vidoes already featured. Never saw the one on the other side of the building, lots of black smoke there.
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22nd May 2016, 12:27 PM | #12 |
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Poor 9/11 truth dolts want a new investigation, having no clue their claims, their overwhelming
14 years of complete failure The little/small/sixWindows fires of 9/11... 6 windows? Is this the new NoC of 9/11 truth, in the 15th year of failure. Based on the 911 truth nuts version of 9/11, we could have stayed at our desks on 9/11 in 7 WTC. The fires were "small". Where did the BS of 6 window fires come from? Anyway, if fire did not do it, then 9/11 truth needs to come up with evidence fire did not do it. I have no idea why someone suspected fire did it... oops, someone say 6 windows worth of fire. 9/11 truth has no clue when it comes to fire and steel. Have they gone to the FBI? |
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Interesting, yes, though quite well known. But still worth showing again.
It nails certain lies, and in this context maybe the most important one is that the smoke was from WTC5+6 and was "clinging" - through some miracle of physics - to WTC7. For the record, this smoke is from the E side of WTC7 and nowhere else. Ditto smoke from the W side that we saw earlier in the video. I also don't understand the "6 windows" references. Do you think only 6 windows around that area showed signs of fire? That only 6 were broken? Please explain. |
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Amazing that they didn't capture the arsonists who went into the building after the Twin Towers fell. In or out!
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Seriously - I wonder how long it takes a car or bus to burn down to a shell, and even stop smouldering. It's almost as if the fires were actually set by the WTC1 collapse, which would raise some awkward questions for Truthers (notably Szamboti, who has confidently claimed that dust from WTC1 would have prevented fires breaking out that far away, therefore it had to be arson)
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Friend, the answer to the question in the OP, after a week of the thread running, is no. There is no source. That yuuge 47-story building was not taken down by those separated little six-window office fires shown in public record, black smoke or not. That's why your "experts" ran away shortly after the "report" was released. |
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What "experts" - do you miss posting BS from 9/11 truth and supporting idiotic claims with no evidence.
Where does the tag-line six-window office fires come from? Is this like the NoC, a failed dumbed down Gish Gallop. LOL, six-window fire did not cause the collapse is what? Is there a point? The effects of fire caused 7 WTC to fail. Not much you can do about it. Ironically, the tag-line based on six-windows fire, is evidence for fire. Are you ignoring the fact fire caused the collapse? What is missing. 9/11 truth wants a new investigation. Since their claim is CD, they need to present the evidence to the FBI, and there is no need for an engineering study. Engineering studies have shown it is possible for fire to cause the collapse, and there have been more than one study. Engineers don't investigate crime. All 9/11 truth claims are based on some fantasy version of CD/Inside Job which is a crime. Makes 9/11 truth look dumber than dirt since 9/11 truth has no evidence to support claims of CD. Is 9/11 truth still upset the "overwhelming evidence" turned out to be fake claims based on "overwhelming ignornace"? Sour grapes due to failed CD fantasy and failed NoC? The "six-windows fires", is that your original 9/11 truth tag-line? Cool - not as dumbed down at "path of most resistance", or "broke Newton's laws", a classy Gish Gallop tag-line. Is it new? |
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Fires in vehicles along Barclay and Greenwich St were caused by debris from
WTC 1. If look can see burning paper in the street and windows blown out Rear and side windows of vehicles are tempered glass which shatters if struck sharp blow - pieces of debris (concrete chunks) fully capable of breaking windows and admitting burning debris Also burning papers under vehicle or landing on plastic bumpers would ignite vehicles Cars are tightly parked nose to tail - once one vehicles ignites will ignite others along street Seen it when somebody parked car over pile of leaves in parking lot - heat from catalytic converter ignited vehicle, which set fire to 3 others parked next to it |
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NoC trolling.
It is ironic, the new investigation 9/11 truth wants would be by the FBI, not engineers, not science. 9/11 truth followers seem to be the kind of folks who would do a false flag, who would be part of an inside job; they imagine it, they would do it. Kind of scary. |
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Childlike Empress, I don't think that's the best route to go. The fires were pretty bad on the floors that they were on. Even if you look at the firefighters witness accounts that accurately describe the fires - as only being on about 10 floors in total throughout the day - it is clear that just one floor of fires like those would be a big task for the NYPD.
Some pictures you may find on the web of tall buildings fully engulfed in flames can be misleading, because sometimes that could just be the outer cladding on fire. |
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