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9th January 2014, 05:50 PM | #161 |
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There is a vast sea of ignorance about the strength of materials being shown here.
The reason for a tube structure for one. Here is a simple 8-1/2" x 11" sheet of ordinary printer paper rolled into a tube, with a small piece of tape holding the ends together. Placed on a digital scale. The weight on the tube is incrementally increased, using quite heavy toy car batteries. At 226 times the weight of the empty tube... 34 oz... the tube begins to exhibit buckling at the lower taped end. With longitudinal stiffeners added, the basic paper tube can support much more weight than is shown here. Airplane structures are designed for way higher loads than this, and can, as was seen in the WTC collisions, penetrate modern buildings. |
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You missed that by order of magnitude (which they don't understand)
Vast sea? I would say a couple of universes world of ignorance topped off with disrespect and the ability for rapid negative learning. We have to get some of what they are taking... What is funny, it takes 11 minutes for 451 to do a post at 13 to 15 wpm. It boils down to ignorance and political bias against the USA. He hates us for our education, knowledge, logic, critical thinking skills, etc. When someone disagrees or laughs at his fantasy
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Can it get more silly? Missiles are next, part to of the 7 second first video self-debunking special. Over in 7 seconds, showing Flt 11 impact the WTC, debunks the rest of the video, and makes Video 2 a waste. When you are anti-education, logic does not miss the cut. |
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What is the sweep angle on the wings of a 767? |
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We dont have to explain the finer points of some bits of bent metal in the impact hole because:
1. Eye witness and video evidence clearly shows a plane hitting the building and exploding. Thats it. You then start from there. Who was flying the plane. Simples/ |
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Has yankee451 explained why he doesn't believe in physics?
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First tell me how much the radome, cockpit and forward cabin impact retarded the forward momentum of the whole plane. We all know a real jet's wings would snap off at that point but there it is on the TeeVee, the whole plane sliding like butter into the building, so be conservative, how much did the fuselage impact slow down the rest of the plane?
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Good god, man. The wings would snap off? Don't you know anything about airplane construction? The wings are one single piece. They're not bolted onto the sides of the plane. They are the plane, especially in a commercial aircraft of that size. Wings can deform, they can be pulled apart by enough torque, but they do not "snap off". |
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