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25th January 2014, 04:43 PM | #121 |
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I'm referring to the lightweight-with-large-profile pieces of aluminum those white-shirted guys with black ties were picking up from the lawn a long ways away from where the impact occurred. You know, the long distance they would have had to travel through the near sea level air while being lightweight with a large profile.
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To answer the original question:
No, there is no proof, and no proof has been presented by any credible source. Would you like a quality illustration of the logistics behind moving and staging a plane crash? I thought you would, here is what it took to stage the crash for the TV series "Lost": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wOuZiRBSzo Take note of the number of people involved and the size of the various containers and trucks involved. Remember, you also have to account for the missing aircraft, all of their parts have to match, which means you have to counterfeit 3 passenger jets. Then there are the passengers. |
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A jet airliner fuselage is 180' long. On contact with concrete wall both wall and fuselage will absorb kinetic energy as elastic deformation. Concrete, not being "elastic" won't stretch, bend, flex or otherwise absorb the energy in anything other than shattering, as concrete tends to do. At first the concrete will resist breakage but the rest of the fuselage is continuing forward, despite any breakage at the front, at 500mph.
An airplane is not a hollow tube. The thin exterior skin covers floors, seats, luggage, fuel tanks, fuel, spars, human bodies, doors, plexiglass windows and any number of structural components. One hundred eighty feet of fuselage and contents at 500 mph pass by any one spot in the universe in less than 1/4 of one second. That is not very much time for structure to absorb and redistribute energy into other supporting mass. Thus, the walls broke. Even after the airplane has shattered into a tangle of fuel-covered bloody wreckage, that wreckage is still traveling forward at some percentage of 500mph. How much? I could goatse up numbers just like CTists do but the right way to do it is crunch the numbers in a computer. This is called a Finite Element Analysis if done by simulating large numbers of physical objects with dimensions and material properties. Now unless you are prepared to back the claim that the entire Dep't of Computer Science of Purdue University is in on the conspiracy, AND can show actual data of your own that contradicts their data, the Purdue FEA stands. |
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A smile? For the thousands murdered while you spread lies?
Have you retracted your lies yet? http://www.opednews.com/Diary/9-11-H...80324-705.html You failed to provide any proof of your claims. Why can't you remove the silly lies you made up about the murder of thousands? |
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FEA, Steve. Can you refute it without armwaving, innuendo or speculation?
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I particularly like the use of the phrase "vanishing into thin air". Makes the assertion *so* much more believable...
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... thus, massless air, extra special physics, massless air, who knew
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Not in the way you're implying. You're talking about the pressure inside the fuselage. I'm talking about the people, seats, fixtures, etc. They don't add density but they do add a lot of the weight used in the "math problems" you lot like to toss around. Pressure would only be a factor until the thin aluminum fuselage was breached, which would be shortly after the radome disintegrated against the brick and concrete facade.
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I might add that the tube contained air moving at about twice the speed of a strong tornado. No joke. The air would not be able to disburse out of the plane sideways through its body fast enough. It would act like how you can jab a hollow straw through a potato, supposedly by plugging the rear end of the straw, trapping the air inside.
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Well density = mass/volume. So if you take a hollow tube and fill it with stuff you will increase the total mass while the volume remains unchanged.
That would mean an increase in density. And and for reference, "people, seats, fixtures, etc." would be "stuff" in this explanation. |
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That "punch out hole" is so nicely rounded. I am impressed! I wonder, just what was it from the boeing 757 that made such a nice round hole after going through so much of the newly reinforced section of the Pentagon? Wouldn't it have to be a large, round "something" from a boeing 757?
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