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25th January 2014, 09:37 PM | #161 |
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And not only was it one tough kettle, it was pressurized at 8.4 PSI with ... AIR!
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25th January 2014, 09:39 PM | #162 |
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QUOTE=yankee451;9792836]Nope, you responded predictably.[/quote]
I responded with what the evidence shows. Again, with no countering evidence to suggest otherwise. Do you have anything substantial for me yankee because this is becoming a common theme with you. |
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25th January 2014, 10:27 PM | #164 |
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Because you said:
and I'm trying to help you prove your point. There are two questions here, you can answer them in either order. 1) How much of the 180 foot length of a 757 travelling 500mph would be crushed while decelerating into an ideal impervious target. B) How much of the 500mph would be left in the mass of crushed aluminum (and non-aluminum) of the jet after decelerating into an ideal impervious target. Your claim. I'm helping you defend it. All you have to do is provide some numbers. Even wildly estimated round numbers would get us started defending your claim that 300,000 lbs of mass traveling 500mph suddenly becomes massless as it experiences elastic deformation via sudden deceleration into an unmovable target. |
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Conspiracy theorist accusations of "planted evidence" are obvious lies they use as a dodge when the evidence contradicts their fairy tales.
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26th January 2014, 12:54 AM | #167 |
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Yankee will be taking a two-week enforced vacation, so you'll have to wait at least that long before you can hope for a reply. |
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It seems to be a recurrent theme.
Another recent example being that the easiest way to make an airplane shaped hole in a building is to fly an airplane into the building. We could formulate a generic hypothesis here: "If you want something that looks like or behaves like an airplane - use an airplane." |
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26th January 2014, 10:12 AM | #172 |
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I know that but with these arguments I find it helpful to simplify the CT absurdity to a level I'm willing to type repeatedly.
In 1, 5, or 10 years an undergrad could do a basic FEA on laptop with over the counter physics software. Tho NWO Garden Gnomes would need to prevent that, worldwide, until heat death of the universe to pull off the nope lamer CT. |
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So I'm going to tell you what the facts are, and the facts are the facts, but then we know the truth. That always overcomes facts. |
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That is exactly where I was headed and trying to lead the conversation. Not that it matters. No planerism requires throwing out 99% of the evidence and misunderstanding or misinterpreting the remainder.
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Pah, You know nothing about physics. The contents of a jet travelling at 500mph are themselved stationary, so therefore do not contribute to the momentum or resulting damage, apparently.
And compression *reduces* density, so the gummint story you saw on TeeVee is impossible! Anyway, the plane Vanished Into Thin Air, so any debris you saw must have been planted, because I have photos of people holding debris. The JASSMs did it - and were concealed by hologram projectors. The hologram projectors were concealed by smoke machines The fact that you sheeple couldn't see this proves how effective the concealment was. For the full story, watch my video, where I show you how to pull a rabbit out of my hat. Remember, it's in colour, so it must be true. Also it's not on TeeVee, and every person who's done their own research knows that all the best scientific and research discoveries are published on YouTube first... peer review only conceals all the best discoveries. |
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So I'm going to tell you what the facts are, and the facts are the facts, but then we know the truth. That always overcomes facts. |
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28th January 2014, 02:10 PM | #192 |
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But you could never get 3 bees in 6 seconds.
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28th January 2014, 02:54 PM | #193 |
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Since the car was moving so slowly, the bee would have been buzzing along very, very fast. I wonder if the bee was exceeding Vmo.
And I agree, no way to get off three bees in six seconds. And, I wonder if the radar returns were actually ... bees. That would just about explain everything. But probably not. |
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I fear we may be digressing just a bit.
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Take care that you don't drift into double standards Mark - applying two grades higher standards to debunkers than you apply to truthers or trolls.
Every debunker post from #178 forward is IMO: 1) Based on valid and accurate use of analogy or metaphor as the chosen style. 2) a legitimate argument or contribution to a reasoned hypothesis - whether or not the topic is trivial. We rarely if ever see reasoned argument directly related to truther claims. Yet here we see "reasoned argument" from debunkers - so that counts as one grade better than "no reason" "non-argument" from truthers; AND All the subject debunker posts are cleverly framed in analogy or metaphor - that is a good teaching technique - it engages the readers intellect in translating the parallel messages - so that also counts as at least one more grade better. Overall the concept of learning though humour is well proven and also fun. So, why criticise Grade 3 performance from numerous debunkers when it is rare for truthers or trolls to achieve Grade 1??? However I must award one credit point to david.watts - in such enlightened company his humorous efforts must be worth Grade 2. |
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This video examines evidence that proves the NYPD is knee-deep in 9/11 fraud.
Transcript: Hi, Steve De’ak here. It’s September 11 2014 and we’re now 13 years into the war on terror – still with no end in sight. In honor of the day I’d like to share one of the more ridiculous chapters of the Official 9/11 story and to offer a way out. St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church was the only non WTC building to be destroyed in the 9/11 attacks and sat almost 700 linear feet away from the north tower. This church served as a backdrop for photographs provided by the NYPD depicting an airplane wheel lodged in what we are told is an external wall panel knocked loose from the north tower. The problem with that tale is that this wall panel neither flew from the north tower, nor indeed was ever part of its construction therefore this photograph is evidence that on at least some level, and it appears to be a very high level, the NYPD is involved in 9/11. The construction of the panel is one clue that it is a fake but the most obvious reason is that the spandrels are bent in the wrong direction. The spandrels were the plates that tied the wall panels together, and their connections had at least 24 bolts, half of which needed to snap in order for the wall panel to be pushed out in its entirety, and that’s not even considering the 24 bolts connecting the top and bottom connections. The plane debris allegedly struck FROM THE INSIDE so hard that it snapped all the connections simultaneously and still contained enough energy to push this 6 ton wall panel almost 700 horizontal feet while falling 1000 vertical feet. It then settled to the ground without shattering the concrete but they screwed up with the spandrels – they are bent exactly opposite from how they would have been bent had that panel actually been pushed from the inside. What we are looking at is a mockup of a WTC wall panel that was probably used as part of a target practice wall, and then trucked to the site, dropped onto the pavement and beat up with sledge hammers. St. Nicholas Church provided a heart wrenching backdrop for these propaganda photos, also notable are the fire and the American flag. Conveniently for the perpetrators, the wall panel and the church were buried in the collapse, but these photographs expose the depth of the corruption that continues to support the 9/11 myth. For the NYPD to be right about that wall panel Flight 11 had to cut through a whole steel building and still have enough force to snap dozens of bolts and shoot 6 tons of steel 700 feet, a clear impossibility. At 9/11 Crash Test we have a small but dedicated group of people willing to put that claim to the test. We are seeking volunteers to help start a revolution of awareness that the level of corruption in world government has reached a critical mass all based on the lies of 9/11. It has been 13 years since that day, isn’t it about time we started facing the truth? The fastest way to end the wars is by exposing the lies that spawned them. Please join us at 9/11 Crash Test.org for a rocket-powered shortcut to reality. Thank you. http://yankee451.com/?p=2483 |
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If the wall panel was not part of the building, as you assert without evidence, the NWO Garden Gnomes would have had to truck it in and put it into place in broad daylight in front of God and everyone, in the exact window of opportunity during building collapse. This idea is dumb. Dumber than dumb. Fankly, it's even dumber than your Soviet Smoke Machine. |
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Shortcut to reality? or a non-stop trip to the land of insane claims... Someone ... lol - liar mocking the murder of thousands with insane dumbed down claims even 9/11 truth faith based followers can debunk. This would be funny if not for the loss of life at the hands of idiots for UBL, who now appear to be not as dumb as some. |
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The real question is, who fertilized the planted evidence in the NWO Garden?
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