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19th April 2016, 11:25 AM | #241 |
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By default, if there were "no planes," the airplane debris would have had to have been* trucked in and hand deposited, including the ~150 square feet of airplane hull on a nearby rooftop.
In many of the videos of the second impact one can see several pieces of debris exit the WTC. The slab of airplane hull and the engine found at the intersection of Church and Murray are identifiable in clips shot from as far as 5 miles out. *the tiny piece of my brain trained in the use of e-prime recoils in horror from this sentence phrase |
19th April 2016, 12:02 PM | #242 |
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So not just one truck, but a fleet of trucks. Each one loaded with fake debris and it's own crew to spread it around.
Do they explain why none of these tens of thousands of people have come forward? Or how they accomplished all this without anyone getting anything on camera in one of the most well photographed tourist destinations in the world? Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk |
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Just imagine the planning meetings where this plot was hatched.
The problems are; how to transport all the parts of a wrecked airliner to the site, how to make the wreckage look like it hit a building and how to make a building look like a plane hit it. And at no point did anyone suggest that the trivial solution, and indeed the only solution which deals with the very obvious problem of vast numbers of eyewitnesses, was for the plane wreckage to fly itself there in the form of an intact airliner and disassemble itself upon arrival. The one clue we can definitely glean about the sinister forces who did this: they're undoubtedly imbeciles. |
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19th April 2016, 05:47 PM | #247 |
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Why wouldn't they beat it up and distress it before they trucked it in?
Did they forget? |
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You know how artists are, they have a hard time being "done" with things, they always see more detail to adjust. Eventually the buyer needs to just pry the piece out of the artist's hands, shove a check and glass of white wine at them and get it over with.
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Yeah, maybe they would have reported them to the media that broadcast the fake planes, or to the police that planted the plane parts, or to the military that launched the missiles. Maybe they could have gone to the government, or to the Mayor's office, or hey, how about the Port Authority Police. Someone would talk - pffffft!
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20th April 2016, 09:18 PM | #251 |
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Amy Goodman at Democracy Now.
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Guys, I think I've solved it, and found one of the higher-ups...
Face is a little blurry, but that's how it always is with this guy. *While creating this I used the Smart Erase Tool to remove the 4 sets of human remains visible in the original when I enlarged it. *There are HUMAN REMAINS in the original photo, not planted by the NYPD |
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Quote:
Much as he hated arguments or any kind of unpleasantness, Ron Shir thought things had gone too far when, returning from a weekend in Clapton, he found that his neighbour had trimmed the enourmous hedge dividing their gardens into the shape of a human leg. Enraged and envious beyond belief, Ron seized his garden shears and clipped his white poodle Leo into a coffee table. "That'll fix it," thought Ron, but he was wrong. The following Wednesday his neighbour had his bushy waist-length hair cut and permed into a model of the Queen Elizabeth and went sailing. Everywhere he went, people said "Hooray!" Sometimes you just can't win. |
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Or contact any of the other 'Truth' organisations.
It is telling that not one 'whistleblower' has come forward with testimony or even suspicions about their role or activities. There must be thousands of people involved in all of this and not one person has had a fit of conscience or realisation that their activities at the time must have been part of it. |
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It is an interesting question, because the answer-"well, no"- undoubtedly has uncomfortable implications for the CTists. It's sort of the flip side to "why hasn't the nefarious conspiracy silenced you?"; in both cases, the obvious reason that nobody is paying any attention is because there's nothing to pay attention to. Other than the self-created attention of someone shouting "look at me, LOOK AT ME!!!!!"- but it might be worth pointing out that if the only merits of the attention lie in the demand for it, there is no real merit at all.
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Why would they call the person who makes up idiotic lies about 9/11, why call yankee451? You mock the murder of thousands with the dumbest claims on 9/11. The call you alright, but I can't post what they call you.
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Dear True Believers,
You asked for proof. Here you go: The construction of the wall panel in the street is one clue that it was never part of the WTC, another clue is the direction in which the spandrels are bent. Another is the absence of damage to the concrete it landed on. |
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What happened to the panel that was blown out of the building? It can be seen to be missing in the film and photographs taken after the impact of the aircraft.
How was a 6 ton steel panel unloaded from a truck? Why did they hsve to pound it with hammers? |
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So far as I can make out, the truss seats you indicate in the first photo are each aligned with a column. That matches their location in the other photos.
Without knowing exactly how that particular section was torn away from its neighbour or what happened to it on its fall to its final position, I don't see that the way the spandrels are folded indicates anything anomalous. |
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The truss seats appear to me to be exactly where they should be given that the spandrels are folded back along the outer edge of the column. The bits that "should not be there" appear to be the damping units, or parts of them, as shown in the drawing. And what exactly are "baseboard heaters"?
This is a classic example of "It doesn't look like the pristine item, so it can't be real." In reality, it looks different because it's bent. I can easily imagine how the impact might have bent the spandrels as seen on the photo; the panel appears to have landed on one edge, resulting in the flattening of the spandrels on that side and the bends between columns visible in Axxman300's photo. What I have a very hard time imagining is how big a hammer would be needed to bend them. Does Thor work for the NYPD? Because I think Mjolnir is about what it would take. Dave |
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I think that yankee's goal is to attempt to increase the surrealism at each claim.
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There is nothing wrong with the columns. |
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Viscoelastic damper bottom center of photo.
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That is not the top of the spandrel plate. The top of the spandrel ends on the right hand edge of the "spandrels bent in opposite direction" box.
The dampers look exactly as they should look, if they fail at rubber connection. Yes concrete is sturdy. Yes the spandrels are bent in the direction of the ground impact forces. |
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Regarding the direction the spandrels are bent, yankee451 is it your contention that The Official Story says the bends occurred when this panel was ejected straight out of the building without turning or folding over on one side, while its neighbouring panel stayed fixed in place?
If that's not your claim, how could you possibly know which way we should expect the bends to go? |
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Context is everything. Start here:
The church was right there across a narrow street from WTC2. Now the rest of the photos from the scene: The full picture showing extensive debris from WTC1: Next angle, showing more impact damage, and how narrow the streets are in the area, I would have put in more arrows but you get the idea: Sans Bigfoot, I had to scribble out the remains, arrows point to impact damage from WTC1 debris: This is the other side of the church, still more debris from WTC1: Right off the bat, the screamingly obvious issue is that to "plant" all of the debris shown they would have needed over 200 men, and at least 2 cranes. |
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I have some questions Yankee451 will fail to address.
How did they plant this piece of "evidence" without anyone noticing? Do you know how much it weighs (there are structural steel weight charts online if you can do some math)? You do know it would take a crane to lift it (I don't think you could put enough guys on it). |
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