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Diem was the worst kept secrets of the time, and all of the rest came into the light over time...which is why nothing remains secret very long. Most official secrets have a shelf life of a decade at best, in some case less than a year.
It will be 15 years this September 11th, no secrets, no leaks, nothing but the truth of the attacks is out there. In this same time span we've had multiple leaks from credible sources about all kinds of misdeeds, and then there are Wikileaks and Snowden. The 9-11 facts remain intact. |
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No, you said that the items brought up about JFK were not secret. You are correct, they aren't. They at one time were though,. While you are not bothered by that you are hot and bothered by the fact that the first responder statements were withheld for a much shorter time.
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JFK was actually asking newspaper editors to show restraint and NOT publish everything. To keep some state secrets, and not make it easy for the opposition (the Soviet Union) to learn everything they need to know through our newspapers of the day. Read the full speech. http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/R..._19610427.aspx For example:
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Fair enough. Was it necessary to block the release of the oral histories? If so, why? The only answer anyone has given is "privacy". That is not a good enough reason. Privacy concerns could have been addressed through anonymity.
Thanks for proving that you do have the ability to reason. It makes me wonder why you won't accept the fact that WTC7 was brought down by CD. |
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Why would someone crash a plane in the middle of nowhere, into the Pentagon, and into the WTC if the goal of the operation is destroying WTC 7? Why not just rig it to explode!
This is the part you prove I was wrong with the intellectual coward quip. Clearly 'they' could rig WTC7, so why the biblical levels of overkill? |
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Yes, "they" could. The problem lies with who the "they" is. If our government wanted wanted to blame the destruction of WTC7 on OBL, there would have been far fewer issues. The issue is that they didn't blame it on him. The issue is that they have given a story that is nonsense. That implies that the "they" is NOT OBL. If the "they" is not OBL, then who is it?
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Were they blocked? If so, why do you think they were, and what evidence do you have?
Further, my understanding is they were released more than a decade ago. Is that true? If so, what was revealed within those histories that supports your claims? Well, there's that, and your innuendo to the contrary. I find the privacy argument more persuasive. According to you. Others may have differing opinions. I note you don't use your real name here. Why is that? Privacy concerns? Asked and answered pages and pages ago. You ignored it. Moreover, the histories were released over a decade ago. What's your *current* beef? Everyone here has that ability. The problem isn't the reasoning ability, it's what facts one accepts as true, and what interpretations one puts on those facts. Your interpretations seem a bit outlandish. Like complaining about the secrecy of some info that was released over a decade ago. You have what you need. Make a case. But complaining about the secrecy inherent in something that was released over a decade ago makes no sense to me. Mostly because I've seen no evidence of CD. And you answered your own point before you even raised it. Remember, I'm a veteran of the JFK assassination conspiracy theorist nonsense. I've seen those same type of nonsense arguments for decades prior to 9/11. You're just using the same CT playbook and tweaking the arguments for 9/11. It's very transparent. All the best, Hank PS: let's not forget you took the JFK quote out of context. You won't be using that quote anymore in the future, I trust. Right? |
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I'd just about bet that FF had never even seen the quote anywhere but on CT-oriented websites. It's that bubble effect in action- one quote-mine gets passed around and down from generation to generation of CT slingers as if it is the entire quote, and the context gets lost for any other purpose than the mine supports- even when, laughably enough (as here), the original is shown to have a directly opposite meaning.
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