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7th April 2016, 04:08 PM | #321 |
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So what do you think happened to the building contents?
How were they pulverised and 'ejected'? |
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Identifiable? Probably not. That was a mess of mud. I failed to recognize the chair at first, and it's one of the least covered with mud or columns or such. You don't know what you should expect things to look like in that mess.
I remember witnesses reporting seeing all these things, though. |
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This argument is irrelevant. The complexity of a task is not proof it can't be done.
The Manhattan project was kept secret. Over 100,000 people worked on it. The moon landings were an extremely complex achievement. Are you saying we didn't land on the moon because it was difficult? |
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What forces can explain such massive destruction? Does it really make sense that a gravity driven collapse pulverized and ejected so much concrete and office furnishings? When a concrete building collapses due to an earthquake, do we see such massive pulverization, or are there still recognizable objects?
Here's where it gets good. Now skeptics are going to claim that an earthquake collapse of a concrete building is different. Yes, it is. But so are collapses from verinage, and the collapses of Ronan Point and Skyline Towers. LOL. |
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No. We already know there was no investigation into the collapse (after initiation) of WTC1 and WTC2. If there was no official investigation then there is no official explanation. The explanation you give is your own opinion. The explanation anyone gives is nothing more than a guess or opinion. Without a real investigation by experts, the answers will be nothing more than guesses.
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Originally Posted by DGM
What do you think explains it better? Don't be shy................ Funny; a few comments back you were basically saying not to trust experts! And now you want an expert investigation into why the rubble ended up as it did? THAT should really get widespread support! |
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Just look up fresh kills 9/11 images.
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I have done the investigation, I know the answers, that's why I am not interested in doing further experiments to debunk morons like Cole.
He has no multi stage fire in his sulfidication experiment. He hasn't tried building a real thermite cutter, that will function in a real fire. He hasn't experimented with the chemistry of the fires to determine reaction induced by said chemistry. He hasn't done experiments with real welds and real bolts and connections similar to what were in the buildings. I have done in my back yard, on my farm all those things, Why can't Jonathan Cole, an engineer with an engineering degree do one freaking experiment right? |
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Also might ask, since FF hasn't apparently seen my post yet, that he address this issue with respect to the nature of the thread title.
The purpose was to come up with an easy to digest, easy to read, summary of the collapses of the towers. In that light, what does the final condition of the office contents suggest should be added to that summary? |
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Feel free to return to this thread and discuss your ideas on how you would want such an investigation to be constituted. |
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I am not an expert. Experts need to discuss the issues and come to a solution. The discussion should be open and transparent. The experts should be vetted and shown to have as few ties to the government as possible.
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Once again, 5 seconds on Google and look,...
You should really try it sometime. Its amazing what you can come up with when you don't have to rely on others to do all of your thinking for you. Really?
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Two 110 story buildings collapsed and you have provided one picture of one concrete slab that appears to be about 30' x 20'. What floor did this slab come from?
I have to give you partial credit, because you did sort of complete the task. Here's the problem. Shouldn't there be more concrete slabs if you want to argue that the falling concrete floors were responsible for crushing the office furnishings? |
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This question doesn't need to be answered. 350,000 tons of materials came down in a 1 acre vertical avalanche and you want to know how many large chunks of slabs there were? Why?
FF Nothing will satisfy you... you are the skeptical one who refuses to accept that the record of evidence does not support a CD... No one has to prove a thing to you. You need to use critical thinking. You don't need experts... a new investigation will produce a similar conclusion though it could model a different sequence of mechanical destruction. You don't understand physics so you don't believe your eyes. You will likely never change your mind because it is informed by irrational beliefs. |
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