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Old 1st May 2016, 05:39 PM   #121
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Here are some other things that also aren't going to happen:

- A speech by Gage on Tuesday, May 3, at the Eastern Branch of the Institution of Fire Engineers in Essex

- A new official-yet-independent investigation of the collapse of Building 7.
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Old 1st May 2016, 06:21 PM   #122
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Originally Posted by FalseFlag View Post
All I wanted ...
Got any evidence for the delusional 9/11 truth claim of CD? No.


You believe the lie of CD, and Gage has no evidence. 14 years of nonthing = 9/11 TruthLIES
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Originally Posted by Myriad View Post
- A speech by Gage on Tuesday, May 3, at the Eastern Branch of the Institution of Fire Engineers in Essex
Proof?
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Old 2nd May 2016, 03:07 AM   #125
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Proof?
The proof has been posted. If you wish to verify it - all you have to do is either email and ring Adrian Richardson GIFireE - the Eastern branch secretary of the IFE and the station officer of the Essex Fire and rescue service HQ on the phone number or email address already provided. Or, you can even verify the contact information provided by independent means also.


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Old 2nd May 2016, 03:25 AM   #126
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Originally Posted by FalseFlag View Post
All I wanted was for the OP to post the email. Why? It's because what he posted makes no sense.

Has the original email been posted? No.

All of the extra discussion has been for nothing. I just wanted to see the original email. That has not happened.
As others have said to you do your own verification. Wouldn't that dispell any suspicion? Of course post the response email.

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Old 2nd May 2016, 05:17 AM   #127
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Originally Posted by FalseFlag View Post
Proof?

I have no idea what proof Gage will be drinking at the hotel bar tomorrow instead of giving a speech at the Eastern Branch of the Institution of Fire Engineers in Essex. I suspect about 80, but maybe he prefers beer or wine instead. If you're curious you could ask him.
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Old 2nd May 2016, 05:49 AM   #128
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We'll find out in less than 24 hours(if my calcs on the time difference between here and the U.K. is correct.)

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Old 2nd May 2016, 05:52 AM   #129
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Originally Posted by jaydeehess View Post
We'll find out in less than 24 hours(if my calcs on the time difference between here and the U.K. is correct.)
It's 1:52 p.m. in the UK right now (no, I won't do a screenshot).
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Old 2nd May 2016, 05:57 AM   #130
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It's interesting that FF is so concerned about the possibility that the OP's email was a fake, but evinces no concern at all about the misleading description Gage provided for his talk:

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This seminar is aimed at fire prevention officers, emergency responders, other professionals and MP’s/Peers. Delegates will be refreshed as to what happened on 9/11, consider recent findings, official investigations and be enlightened why the 9/11 movement exists. Delegate’s will see how the WTC building No 7, a steel frame (fire protected) Building of 47 floors located a football pitch away from the twin towers, collapsed that same afternoon in a 6 seconds freefall. Office fires and a failed steel support beam was recorded as the most likely cause. Is there a potential for UK protected buildings to collapse in the same way, if so are we prepared?

Presenter Richard Gage is the founder member of Architect & Engineers movement working closely with Firefighters for 9/11 and grieving families. Richard aims to present the latest evidence assembled, seeking a fresh investigation similar to the Hillsborough disaster of 1989. Testimony from surviving Firefighters will follow, concluded with any questions before bringing the seminar to a close. Attendees will be awarded CPD points for a joint IFPO, Fire Sector Federation and the All-Party Group event.

No mention of the "truth movement" at all, in fact he specifically dropped the related terms in the titles of the two organizations he refers to. Nothing to indicate any belief in a controlled demolition. No suggestion at all of an alternate hypothesis for the collapse. He's trying to make it look like his discussion is nothing more than an engineering analysis of a fire-induced collapse, when we all know that's not true.

Typical truther behavior. Claim everyone else is lying, while ignoring the blatant dishonesty of his fellow travelers.
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Old 2nd May 2016, 06:03 AM   #131
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
It's 1:52 p.m. in the UK right now (no, I won't do a screenshot).
Aha! refusing to provide proof!
That's 1:52 May 2 still though, right? What time on the 3rd was Gage supposed to speak?
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Old 2nd May 2016, 06:07 AM   #132
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collapsed that same afternoon in a 6 seconds freefall.
Yeah, the double lie is noted.
Closer to a 20 second long collapse sequence and only 2.25 seconds(MAX), nearer the end of that 20 seconds, and 1.8 seconds AFTER the entire structure was already moving, was at free fall.
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Old 2nd May 2016, 06:08 AM   #133
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Aha! refusing to provide proof!
That's 1:52 May 2 still though, right? What time on the 3rd was Gage supposed to speak?
Its 8:08 am here.
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Old 2nd May 2016, 07:45 AM   #134
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
It's interesting that FF is so concerned about the possibility that the OP's email was a fake,
It's also interesting that

- he is actually incapable of doing anything to check the issue by asking the sender

- while he is whining about the possibility of a fake mail he thinks we should take HIS claim about his empty inbox for real - there seems to be quite a dishonest double standard around
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Originally Posted by rambaldi View Post
It's also interesting that

- he is actually incapable of doing anything to check the issue by asking the sender

- while he is whining about the possibility of a fake mail he thinks we should take HIS claim about his empty inbox for real - there seems to be quite a dishonest double standard around
Dishonesty and double standards are the ingredients that fuel Gage and his kind.
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Old 2nd May 2016, 08:32 AM   #136
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Originally Posted by FalseFlag View Post
All I wanted was for the OP to post the email. Why? It's because what he posted makes no sense.

Which part of what he posted made no sense to you?
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This seminar is aimed at fire prevention officers, emergency responders, other professionals and MP’s/Peers. Delegates will be refreshed as to what happened on 9/11, consider recent findings, official investigations and be enlightened why the 9/11 movement exists. Delegate’s will see how the WTC building No 7, a steel frame (fire protected) Building of 47 floors located a football pitch away from the twin towers, collapsed that same afternoon in a 6 seconds freefall. Office fires and a failed steel support beam was recorded as the most likely cause. Is there a potential for UK protected buildings to collapse in the same way, if so are we prepared?
I'd love to see their reaction when he tells them they have nothing to fear because steel building can't collapse due to fires.
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Originally Posted by rambaldi View Post
It's also interesting that

- he is actually incapable of doing anything to check the issue by asking the sender

- while he is whining about the possibility of a fake mail he thinks we should take HIS claim about his empty inbox for real - there seems to be quite a dishonest double standard around
Do we have a screen shot of this yet? It makes no sense to me (and that part is not satire)
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Do we have a screen shot of this yet? It makes no sense to me (and that part is not satire)
It will all be moot sometime tomorrow when there will either be or not be, a presentation by Gage.

AE911T website says there will be, and has not retracted that afaik. Will they 'admit' to it after the fact and tell their followers that the event was cancelled? If it is to happen then Gage will have to be in the U.K. now or very soon. If he is there and then finds all his appearances are cancelled how will he spin the expense?
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Originally Posted by rambaldi View Post
It's also interesting that





- he is actually incapable of doing anything to check the issue by asking the sender





- while he is whining about the possibility of a fake mail he thinks we should take HIS claim about his empty inbox for real - there seems to be quite a dishonest double standard around


To be precise, FF has not declared that he hasn't asked the sender for confirmation. In fact, it may be that confirmation of the cancellation is the reason FF is not interested in whether the talk goes ahead or not.



The only thing that appears to bother FF is that he seems to find the OP's claim of having emailed the Essex fire brigade so incredible that he confidently calls it a lie.



I have absolutely no idea what FF finds even slightly unlikely about it.
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To be precise, FF has not declared that he hasn't asked the sender for confirmation. In fact, it may be that confirmation of the cancellation is the reason FF is not interested in whether the talk goes ahead or not.



The only thing that appears to bother FF is that he seems to find the OP's claim of having emailed the Essex fire brigade so incredible that he confidently calls it a lie.



I have absolutely no idea what FF finds even slightly unlikely about it.
I wonder that myself. Especially given the long FF thread focusing on why the NYC fire department initially delayed releasing the 911 transcripts... ten years after they had released the 911 transcripts and there was nothing in them to support the conspiracy theory.
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What would be the point, FF?
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The point is a skeptic made a claim, which should be really easy to prove. Just post the email. Why is this so difficult?
You seem to be remarkably good at missing simple points. I'll rephrase for you: Why would anyone on ISF falsely claim that an event was cancelled, especially when the event is to take place mere days hence?

The event either happens, or it doesn't. If it does, the claimant looks foolish or dishonest.

Here, I'll help you out with some Conspiracy Logic 101: It really hasn't been cancelled, but we here at NWO Central are so desperately afraid of Richard Gage giving a presentation at the Eastern Branch of the Institution of Fire Engineers in Essex that we're posting false information on the ISF discussion board in the hopes that everyone who was planning on attending will read it and won't show up. Richard Gage speaks to an empty hall because of a posting here on ISF.

That was easy, wasn't it?
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I'd love FF to see just how pointless this little meeting is anyway. Witham is a London-overspill town of zero consequence, small population (25,000). It's a bit run-down, and notable mainly for being the best access in the area on to the A12 trunk road to London, and having a railway station busy with commuters to London. That's probably the only reason the Essex fire brigade hold any meetings there: it has reasonable road and rail links. I'd suspect that the real reason the meeting was cancelled is likely to be that one of the 4 or 5 people who were due to turn up found something else to do. Only a fool would fly across the Atlantic to make a presentation at such a non-event.
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Do we have a screen shot of this yet?
It's not hard, people.
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Here's a link if your browser does not automatically show the picture - http://s012.radikal.ru/i319/1605/2b/2ce282022f9b.jpg.

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Originally Posted by FalseFlag View Post
It's not hard, people.

http://s012.radikal.ru/i319/1605/2b/2ce282022f9b.jpg

Here's a link if your browser does not automatically show the picture - http://s012.radikal.ru/i319/1605/2b/2ce282022f9b.jpg.
Does this mean you haven't contacted them or they have not replied? The OP included a telephone number............
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It's the OP's job to prove his claim. It's not my job to go on a wild goose chase for the lulz of skeptics.
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It's not hard, people.

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It will all be moot sometime tomorrow when there will either be or not be, a presentation by Gage.

AE911T website says there will be, and has not retracted that afaik. Will they 'admit' to it after the fact and tell their followers that the event was cancelled? If it is to happen then Gage will have to be in the U.K. now or very soon. If he is there and then finds all his appearances are cancelled how will he spin the expense?

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It's not hard, people.
Maybe people don't like to jump through hoops on command when the question could be quickly resolved (or was) by the very person seeking to play ringmaster?
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It's the OP's job to prove his claim. It's not my job to go on a wild goose chase for the lulz of skeptics.
Today is the day of the event, please can you provide a link and a screen shot of the event.

It's not my job to go on a wild goose chase.
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Originally Posted by FalseFlag View Post
It's not hard, people.

http://s012.radikal.ru/i319/1605/2b/2ce282022f9b.jpg

Here's a link if your browser does not automatically show the picture - http://s012.radikal.ru/i319/1605/2b/2ce282022f9b.jpg.
It is however hard for you to verify a piece of information by utilising the contract details yourself. It would take less than 30 seconds, which of course would be a better proof - rather than a screenshot, which to most conspiracy minded people, can be easily manipulated.

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It's the OP's job to prove his claim. It's not my job to go on a wild goose chase for the lulz of skeptics.
The claim has been proved. You wish to verify this claim further - you have the required contact details and 30 seconds.

It is clear to see why no new investigation of note has ever taken place.

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It's not my job to go on a wild goose chase for the lulz of skeptics.
Maybe not your job but definitely a favourite hobby
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Falseflag- just curious if you've had an opportunity to email the conference organizers yet as to if the talk is canceled or not. You haven't actually stated as much one way or another. Obviously if you have it would be silly to continue to suggest that you should.
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It's not hard, people. ...
Where is the evidence for CD? Is it too hard to produce? Actually impossible, there is no evidence. The fantasy of CD failed, yet you can fall back on the basic skill to capture a screen, upload and link. Too bad physics is not in the skill set.

It is not hard to print screen, crop in a photo-shop like programs, up load to some Russian photo site... are you working for the Russian photo site? Then link to a photo...

This is the first thing you kind of got right, it is not hard, but it does take time. It seems your skills are limited to print screen photo-shopping, upload and posting. You can't figure out 9/11 given 14 years, yet you can post a photo you got by print screen, or did you use a phone, or camera linked to the internet. Better get back to posting questions and zero evidence for the CD lies, and how is the delusional inside job nonsense going.

Why can't you ask the people if the talk is on? Email your buddy in fraud of CD, email Gage.
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Falseflag- just curious if you've had an opportunity to email the conference organizers yet as to if the talk is canceled or not. You haven't actually stated as much one way or another. Obviously if you have it would be silly to continue to suggest that you should.
Going on 8PM May 3 in the U.K. right now.
Did Gage speak or not?

FF?
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Going on 8PM May 3 in the U.K. right now.
Did Gage speak or not?

FF?
You sure? It's 6pm ish.....

I've no idea what occurred in Witham today. I was too busy digging holes.
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You sure? It's 6pm ish.....

I've no idea what occurred in Witham today. I was too busy digging holes.
I'm sure it will be on the six o'clock news
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Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
You sure? It's 6pm ish.....

I've no idea what occurred in Witham today. I was too busy digging holes.
I hope you planted explosives in there, ready for the day decades hence when you need to silently demolish the house for insurance purposes.
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Originally Posted by GlennB View Post
I hope you planted explosives in there, ready for the day decades hence when you need to silently demolish the house for insurance purposes.
Well obviously I was going to Glenn, because...well........you never know, do you? However, my plans were stymied because I couldn't find any that were silent. I mean, it'd be silly to go to all that trouble and have the windows blow out and for the neighbours to hear, wouldn't it. Besides, purchasing explosives these days is a good way to get a little visit from the boys in blue, I'm told, so I'm still trying to work out the way forward.
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