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Old 5th May 2016, 05:45 PM   #81
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I am pretty sure that the AIA do not want to have an annual vote on the WTC. I think they need a resolution to stop ae911truth disrupting the convention and creating these stupid resolutions.
If they really wanted to curtail AE911T's activities at the AIA events, just set up a Girls Scouts cookie drive at the booth next to theirs and tip off law enforcement.

Half of the AE911T event staffers will be in custody before lunch.
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Old 5th May 2016, 05:47 PM   #82
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If they really wanted to curtail AE911T's activities at the AIA events, just set up a Girls Scouts cookie drive at the booth next to theirs and tip off law enforcement.

Half of the AE911T event staffers will be in custody before lunch.
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Despite the assurance that the debunkers would behave, I suspect the AIA brass decided that the best way to avoid either side behaving badly was to not have two opposing factions at the event.
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Ziggi, please inform me about "the mentality of tfk"...Since "my forum buddies", to whomever that is supposed to refer, were not part of the picture, their "mentality" is irrelevant.."..
The mentality of you, tfk, and that of your buddies that you hang out with here is one and the same. These people are mentally and intellectually your peers:

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Or maybe they thought the lies of the Truther movement were so obvious, it needed no counter argument, with any life form more intellectually advanced than pond scum.

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That's because they are established morons. And at the top is a snake oil salesman, moron.

Originally Posted by tinribmancer

I think we all know why they are insane...

...lizard people
Whenever the AIA or anyone else checks you and your buddies out they see your idea of "complete professionalism, dignity & civility" in the flesh and the kind of person you really are and therefore what to really expect from you and whatever people you bring along with you.
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Old 5th May 2016, 06:25 PM   #85
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Gage's booth is self-debunking

Originally Posted by Ziggi View Post
The mentality of you, tfk, and that of your buddies that you hang out with here is one and the same. These people are mentally and intellectually your peers:



Whenever the AIA or anyone else checks you and your buddies out they see your idea of "complete professionalism, dignity & civility" in the flesh and the kind of person you really are and therefore what to really expect from you and whatever people you bring along with you.
When AIA sees your web pages of woo, they will see irrational claims of CD, and nonsense based on overwhelming ignorance. And see you have no evidence for crazy claims of an inside job you can't explain.

You spread lies about 9/11 mocking the murder of thousands on web sites earning money from advertising; a big fraud used to fool idiots who believe the tripe you make up based on opinions at best. AIA knows Gage is a fraud, and take his money for the booth of woo, spreading lies; why are they lies, you can't provide evidence for the claims; thus you spread lies.

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/201...inum-data.html
An inability to spot fantasy... no clue all the samples of the dust did not match thermite in energy. Ironically, the office fires had more heat energy before collapse than 2,700 Tons of your fantasy thermite lies. AIA is over qualified to do what a grade school educated person can see, the lies of thermite based on some paranoid CT you can't explain. All your claims are evidence free, and AIA will have a problem seeing your lies are baseless? Really? There is no need to put up an anti-Gage booth next to Gage's fantasy world of CD based on nonsense.

Why is there an need for a booth next to Gage to explain Gage's fantasy CD is a fantasy? It take willful ignorance to believe Gage's pitch of CD.

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/201...rors-iron.html
Will AIA know your iron rich spheres (the ones Jones has are iron oxide) are normal in fires where iron bearing substances are involved. Do we need a booth to expose how gullible Gage's petition signers are? Not one of Gage's follower fooled into signing up for woo have evidence to support the claims Gage makes. It is a movement based on the ignorance of the followers. AIA already knows this, they are not gullible like you are.


It might be true, Gage might be insane, or dumber than dirt if he believes the CD claims he makes. Or, Gage is clever, running what is now nearly a million dollars movement, or a tax scam for his rich friends who don't want to pay the top tax bracket... amazingly there are some over 100,000 dollar donors, who could pay to consult with a sane engineer to find Gage is a liar, his claims are false. In Gage's last video about Boxes, he looks kind of crazy and upset.

The real fraud is Gage, and as soon as a newspaper figures out Gage is raking in nearly a million a year selling lies, he will be exposed as a fraud spreading CD lies about 9/11.

When will you take action to expose the big inside job?

https://www.blogger.com/profile/02174479080748212122
How do debunk debunkers with no evidence? Why are there advertisements on the web site? Is Talboo making money from woo, from the paranoid nuts who eat up woo about 9/11? Is he making money using your nonsense? Next time take physics, chemistry, and higher math; it is not needed to fight woo, but could help cure falling for dumbed down claims like CD.

Who got the 5k to spend on stuff? Do you get some of the money from the Web Site? Do you get some money when I buy a "bad idea t-shirt" following the link from your anti-science rant, as you think you are debunking the debunkers?

Do you think Gage will get more or less votes on the resolution, knowing there is more overt woo in the resolution this year?

What will AIA think when they find signs of overwhelming ignorance in 9/11 truth failed web sites...
http://911truthactivism.blogspot.com/
Are you making web pages to compete for the dumbest claims in 9/11.
Are you going to man Gage's booth of woo? AIA might want to ban Gage's insane claims to maintain credibility; however, such a fringe few don't impact on AIA overall.
AIA might of seen Gage's last video where he goes nuts, and may want to keep people from ruining Gage's delusion which might have him go nuts at the convention.

I tried to find some rational stuff in your work online, and discovered BS. There is no hope for the Pulitzer due to the complete lack of evidence, and overall anti-intellectual tone of your 9/11 truth efforts on-line.
You have advertisements too - is that the real reason you spread lies about 9/11; trying to get the paranoid CTers to increase your web hits, and possible advertising hits... follow the money.

You have idiotic claims and BS at your web site; will AIA know about your lies and nonsense you support.
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NORAD Should Stand Trial for 9/11 Stand-down http://911truthactivism.blogspot.com...ml?view=mosaic
Hard to be more idiotic and knowledge free, but you do it.
Why would an anti-Gage booth post for exposing 9/11 truth as fraud? Stuff from your web site is an outstanding example of the lack of evidence, lies and assorted dumbed down nonsense...
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In addition to calls to CSPAN, we should keep the pressure on Dr. Sham. http://911truthactivism.blogspot.com...ml?view=mosaic
wow, professionalism, your a great example... Dr Sham?
Your silly web page/s would be a great example of how the lack of knowledge driven by paranoia rules 9/11 truth claims based on delusions of an inside job you can't explain. A great booth showing how ignorance is the backbone of a movement Gage makes over 500k/yr fooling the gullible. The booth could be a collage poster set of your web pages - self-debunking claptrap. You have to be in for the advertising money, no one can fall for the diverse set of nonsense you present; the 28 page junk debunks the rest of the CD and other insane claims. Where is the logic in having so much false information - even Gage only uses a few key area of woo, with CD being the core of his insane claims.

And there is the big pile of irony... http://911truthactivism.blogspot.com...ml?view=mosaic

And you can't have a movement based on lies without invoking some famous quotes which have nothing to do with the lies of CD and fantasy of an inside job.
http://911truthactivism.blogspot.com...ml?view=mosaic
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." – Mark Twain

When was the beginning over? Why are 99.9 percent of all engineers not in 9/11 truth? Beware of idiots supporting 9/11 truth who call themselves patriots, they are liars, and don't support truth.

I have to make some posters for the booth... but Gage already has enough woo to self-debunk; showing his box video is enough to see his claims are insane.

Gage's booth is the anti-truth, self-debunking Booth of woo.
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Old 5th May 2016, 06:25 PM   #86
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Originally Posted by Ziggi View Post
The mentality of you, tfk, and that of your buddies that you hang out with here is one and the same. These people are mentally and intellectually your peers:



Whenever the AIA or anyone else checks you and your buddies out they see your idea of "complete professionalism, dignity & civility" in the flesh and the kind of person you really are and therefore what to really expect from you and whatever people you bring along with you.
Anyone who looks at Your buddy Johnathan Cole see's a fraudulent failure who can't figure out simple physics.
You are judged by the company you keep Ziggi why have you not come out and exposed Cole's nonsense arguments?

Would you like for me to do a few YouTube videos showing how wrong Cole is, and how dumb truthers are,
All I have to do is lay the model on it's side. And demonstrate how different energy values affect the motion using a canon to very the energy to resistance values in place of gravity.

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Originally Posted by Ziggi View Post
The mentality of you, tfk, and that of your buddies that you hang out with here is one and the same. These people are mentally and intellectually your peers:



Whenever the AIA or anyone else checks you and your buddies out they see your idea of "complete professionalism, dignity & civility" in the flesh and the kind of person you really are and therefore what to really expect from you and whatever people you bring along with you.
Did they check out your buddy Basile for stealing 5K of people's money?
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Did they check out your buddy Basile for stealing 5K of people's money?
Now now, you know Mark is working as hard as he can, to find another way too make his beer and weed money.
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Is Ziggi the spokes person for the AIA ?
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Did they check out your buddy Basile for stealing 5K of people's money?

Maybe the money (if it ever existed) should have been used to help pay for a full size truth booth instead of the downsized 2016 version:

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A 10’ x 10’ expo booth plus accessories, which costs over $5,000 (we’re spending $5,000 less than last year by not going with the 20’ x 20’ booth)



In other, completely unrelated, news:

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Marty: The last time Tap toured America, they where, uh, booked into 10,000 seat arenas, and 15,000 seat venues, and it seems that now, on their current tour they're being booked into 1,200 seat arenas, 1,500 seat arenas, and uh I was just wondering, does this mean uh...the popularity of the group is waning?

Ian: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no...no, no, not at all. I, I, I just think that the.. uh.. their appeal is becoming more selective.
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Is Ziggi the spokes person for the AIA ?

If he was, maybe he could shed some light on why AE911 had to remove the prominent AIA graphic from their 2016 convention flyers:

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Before:



Now:

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And the rest of the world sits back laughing as it watches that part of the US which still cannot see internal combustion even when it is of their own making
Follow the money -- supposedly an American talent --- and start with E P Heidner who gave you the marker flags .
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Do 9/11 truth followers pick their experts at random, or great lack of research plays a hand
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And the rest of the world sits back laughing as it watches that part of the US which still cannot see internal combustion even when it is of their own making
Follow the money -- supposedly an American talent --- and start with E P Heidner who gave you the marker flags .
E P Heidner = BS on 9/11; how did you find a complete idiot on flying issues? Skill, or just luck?

Will you have a booth at the Convention. Maybe you could make your claim in some form which makes sense; so far the nonsense you post, no relation to 9/11 issues. What are you talking about?

I agree, if you can figure out who funded the 5 dollar knives, you can solve 9/11. I did, but you can't figure out 9/11 given 14 years and tons of evidence. You can't figure out 9/11 - and you take no action to do so.

14 years of delusional claptrap, and you failed to follow the money. The world might sit back laughing at the fringe few who can't figure out 9/11, you and 9/11 truth.

Do you agree Gage's booth of woo is self-debunking? Do you have any clue what happened on 9/11, or are you faking complete ignorance of 9/11 as an event, and for what purpose do you do so?

If you refer to this E P Heidner ...
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E P Heidner - three hijacked airliners hit three separate buildings with such precision and skill that many observers believe those flights were controlled by something other than the poorly trained hijackers in the cockpits. T
In one concise sentence, he exposes himself as an idiot on 9/11 issues. The flying on 9/11 was the worse, and as for remote control, it moves E P Heidner from the exalted position of class idiot to insane paranoid nutcase conspiracy theorist, if he is implying remote control. Then he makes up BS for dolts to eat up and think they have something of value.

"precision and skill" - WHAT did the dolt say? Poor E P, spewing BS without evidence, like most 9/11 truth followers and pushers of fantasy lies. Take Flight 77, the worse flying possible, poor bank angle, poor airspeed control. We have the FDR to see the poor flying skills of a terrorist. The last portion was hand flown, thus the "controlled by something other", is a lie based on zero knowledge and research by your failed nut expert on 9/11 issues. Flight 77 terrorist pilot was late getting down, not a surprise, the failed terror pilot had never been above 10,000 feet before, it takes time to get down unless you have skills to use the drag devices... thus 77 made a less than standard rate turn (no skill shown) to get down, and then 77 flown by a murderer, picked a side he was lined up for, and hit it, almost hitting the highway next to to the Pentagon, missing the ground by 40 feet, an altitude most jets are at crossing the threshold of the runway...

E P failed out of the box, BS. How do you pick your failed 9/11 truth experts? At random, from google searches? How do you get BS like this?

E P Heidner - he is as bad as Gage, making up lies to sell to gullible people - we don't need a booth to counter E P Heidner or Gage, we only require the skills acquired by a grade school education, starting with cause and effect in first grade and ending with some critical thinking skills; the kind of skills believers of E P Heidner and Richard Gage don't use.
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I just had a conversation with an AIA representative, and got some good, welcome info on their relationship with AE911T, and more feedback on why my request was denied while they let Gage exhibit.

Highlights:
  • The reason that they invited Gage, et al, into the convention is that they had previously made a royal pain in the ass of themselves at earlier conventions by hawking their wares on the sidewalk outside of the convention, and annoying the other AIA conventioneers.
  • The convention reps asked them, politely, to stop with their sidewalk theater. We all (excepting False Flag, I suspect) can guess exactly how far "polite" got them with Gage.
  • Since the sidewalk is public property, they were unable to take any action to get him to stop
  • Inviting them inside, and asking them to "play by the rules", gave the convention a way to finesse the issue. It was the best option in a bad situation.
  • In the meeting at which Gage put forth his new petition, he was received about as warmly as if he had presented his petition to a panel of IS skeptics here.
  • The convention floor is a place for exhibitors & manufacturers to show their wares, new technologies, etc. to architects. The reason that they declined my request for a booth was that I didn't fit into that category.
  • Gage also doesn't fit into that category, but as mentioned above, he was brought in for "unique" reasons.
  • AIA has no use whatsoever for Gage & his message. They are not in the slightest ambivalent about, or welcoming of, his nonsense.
  • AIA has someone in their organization that does keep an eye on Gage, his claims & antics. Freedom of speech does put a serious cap on what actions they can take, however.
That about covers the conversation.

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A couple of people giving out flyers on the sidewalk should cover it then


Get a booth next year.

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AIA has someone in their organization that does keep an eye on Gage, his claims & antics. Freedom of speech does put a serious cap on what actions they can take, however.
I can attest to this. Very soon after pointing out Gage was using their logo, I was informed they were passing the information on to the appropriate person. The next day Gage changed the ad.
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Visual suggestion:

Have a flat screen TV out front of your area on a loop playing Richard saying, "Every architect and engineer...knows immediately and intuitively that this is clearly a case of classic controlled demolition" followed by the video of WTC 7's collapse and a series of actual CD's, with sound of course.
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Originally Posted by Ziggi View Post
The mentality of you, tfk, and that of your buddies that you hang out with here is one and the same. These people are mentally and intellectually your peers:



Whenever the AIA or anyone else checks you and your buddies out they see your idea of "complete professionalism, dignity & civility" in the flesh and the kind of person you really are and therefore what to really expect from you and whatever people you bring along with you.
You think the AIA is "checking me out"?



And for what it's worth, TFK and I are not peers. His skillset far surpasses mine. His patience far surpasses mine.

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Still waiting for some indication of what this Idiocy is supposed to signify.
Same here. I suppose he believes buildings are like replicas of the same objects in isolation. Differences in design he contends are inconsequential. Its that treatment of buildings ad completely uniform objects in total isolation that has lead me to believe that tl;dr responses to those argumentd are meaningless unless you take the disclaaimer that its for onlookers more that than the individual. I wish you luck at the convention.

ETA: i saw your update right after posting.... bummer... but understandable.
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