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17th May 2016, 12:43 PM | #1 |
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Businessman plans to recreate 9/11 to finally prove if CTs are true or false
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17th May 2016, 12:52 PM | #2 |
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The funny thing is, there was already a hypothesis and a confirmation on 9/11. Can an aircraft impact and fire make a 110 story building collapse? Well, it was confirmed when the 2nd one fell, right?
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17th May 2016, 12:58 PM | #3 |
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So, do they have buildings that big in Thailand?
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17th May 2016, 12:59 PM | #4 |
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I think he will need over $1 Million to purchase the plane.
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17th May 2016, 01:02 PM | #5 |
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17th May 2016, 01:03 PM | #6 |
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And a billion or two to construct a comparable building. The man is an attention-seeking wanker.
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17th May 2016, 01:06 PM | #7 |
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So some fraud has found another way to make a Buck off of twoofers, another for profit fraud.
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17th May 2016, 01:16 PM | #8 |
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I bet he visits here often. It went like this:
So what do we have new on skeptics forums today .. What ? Another 9/11 thread !? If I only had a dollar of every one of those ! Hahaha .. now wait a minute ! |
17th May 2016, 01:18 PM | #9 |
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I predict a crowdfunding effort.
edit: I see he's charging $5k per ticket. In advance of course. Right. Bollocks from the start. |
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17th May 2016, 01:31 PM | #10 |
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Pilots for Truth have signed up to fly the jet... ?
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17th May 2016, 01:37 PM | #11 |
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17th May 2016, 03:02 PM | #14 |
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Sounds like a con.
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17th May 2016, 03:21 PM | #15 |
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Wouldn't he also have to buy a building with the same... build as the towers?
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17th May 2016, 03:42 PM | #17 |
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17th May 2016, 03:49 PM | #18 |
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How will slamming a bigger plane into a smaller building prove anything?
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17th May 2016, 04:26 PM | #19 |
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17th May 2016, 04:32 PM | #20 |
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A couple of years back some guy proposed rebuilding the Twin Towers in the Nevada desert, and then flying a pair of 767s into them. Pretty sure this was a scam too, and if not it shows how many Truthers do not understand money.
If I were to go to all of that expense and effort, I would end up renting out office space. |
17th May 2016, 05:28 PM | #21 |
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This seemed like a joke at first. Now that it's getting some attention, it seems like it's more like a scam.
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17th May 2016, 05:33 PM | #22 |
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False Flag.... Tony Sz - what's your take?
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17th May 2016, 05:38 PM | #23 |
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The ironic thing is that the only way they could conduct the test is if they rig the plane to fly remotely. Well, there are already plenty of CTists who believe the passengers were offloaded and the empty planes flown remotely. He can't disprove one aspect of one CT without creating evidence for another.
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18th May 2016, 12:46 AM | #28 |
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He must be talking about Salo.
It's been a while since the truth movement could be described as 'getting some attention'. |
18th May 2016, 01:08 AM | #29 |
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April fools gathering pace on the Internet ?
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18th May 2016, 01:30 AM | #30 |
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I see it more as a charmingly archaic tradition, a
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18th May 2016, 07:43 AM | #31 |
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18th May 2016, 06:48 PM | #33 |
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18th May 2016, 06:52 PM | #34 |
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Even if he approximates a 757 & a Tower, there is a problem.
He has to fly the jet into the building. Is it likely he will be able to get a pilot to do this? No. How to solve this conundrum? He will have to fly the planes by remote control. Isn't this, in fact, one of the Conspiracy Theories floating about? Success would mean he's proving rather than disproving a CT. |
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19th May 2016, 10:31 AM | #35 |
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Pilots? He could use the aviation authority of choice for Criteria and MM, Balsamo's club for failed pilots. However, Balsamo and his club of failed aviators claim, actually seem to brag, they can't hit the Pentagon with a 757, thus they are can't fly the jet.
Remote control would not prove much of anything, since the FDR for 77 and 93 show the planes were flown by "hand". Remote control would be not proof for much more than someone is not dumb enough to fly into a building. What happens when a wing falls off, or the remote control fails... The planes used on 9/11 were airworthy and certified for flight, where as a heavy jet you buy for 1,000,000 dollars would be overdue for inspections on engines, air-frame; when was the last pressure check on the cabin; can it be pressurized. That being said, who cares if the plane is certified. However, if there are structural problems, going 500 mph at 700 feet or sea level does impose large aerodynamic loads.... parts out of specifications, like panels, gear doors, skin, could depart the plane as it exceeds Vmo just a little. Major structural problems might show up at high speed, or any load factors - you might hear a big crack sound as the plane zooms by, and fails. As for planes up to date for inspection, I have seen minor damage when a large jet exceeded Vmo. It was some skin under the wing was ripped off by the high speed, did not affect flight. it is embarrassing for the pilot who now is caught speeding and doing minor damage to the plane... When I accidentally exceed Vmo at 500 feet above sea level in level flight, I did not damage the plane. The only ripping, was the throttles back to idle and slowed down before turning to downwind. Flybys in the old engine KC-135 only great show off maneuver, noise from four J-57s, smoke from four J-57s, and to get the noise, and smoke "full" throttle... and in seconds from 300 knots we exceeded 350 knots, with old 11,000 pound per engine under powered noise/smoke makers... It is insane to repeat what 19 terrorists did by stealing four jets, faking hijacking, and being murderers for UBL. Must be a money issue, ripping off the only humans dumber than 19 terrorists on earth, 9/11 truthers. |
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19th May 2016, 04:39 PM | #36 |
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Why 9/11 Conspiracy Crowdfunding Project Will Fail
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And Fail it Did!
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I'm impressed that a whole 19 people contributed. It clearly demonstrates the true scale of the vast groundswell of support for the 9/11 truth movement that truthers are always telling us about.
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