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Old 19th June 2020, 09:38 AM   #201
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...newday-vpx.cnn

That disgusting little leprechaun, Mick Mulvaney is here saying the people who say Trump is unfit for office are wrong. He then goes on to explain how Trump didn't know how to hire and build a team because he'd never worked in government. This would make Trump unfit for office.
He spins the Trumpster as a "small businessman who has done extraordinarily well".
What a load of ****.
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Old 19th June 2020, 09:42 AM   #202
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Old 19th June 2020, 09:55 AM   #203
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Trump stares in silence when asked why he keeps hiring wackos and liars
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Old 19th June 2020, 11:09 AM   #204
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Old 19th June 2020, 11:36 AM   #205
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
George W Bush.
And Donald J. Trump.

Donald J. Trump
Donald Trumo
@realDonaldTrump

I am pleased to announce that, effective 4/9/18, @AmbJohnBolton will be my new National Security Advisor.
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I saw where one of Trump's dogs said the conversation with Xi about soybeans and the election never happened but I haven't seen any Americans say Bolton was lying. So far, Bolton's account remains uncontested.
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Old 19th June 2020, 12:25 PM   #207
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
I saw where one of Trump's dogs said the conversation with Xi about soybeans and the election never happened but I haven't seen any Americans say Bolton was lying. So far, Bolton's account remains uncontested.



....which implies that the one about the concentration camps did happen? I mean, if you're going to refute one alleged lie, why not all?
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Old 20th June 2020, 03:46 AM   #208
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Originally Posted by portlandatheist View Post
God, he looked like a little child.
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Old 20th June 2020, 07:54 AM   #209
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/polit...ook/index.html

And the judge refuses to halt the publication of Bolton's book. My pre order is safe.
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Old 20th June 2020, 08:04 AM   #210
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And thanks to Trump trying to stop it, sales will be greater than they would have been otherwise. If he were the brilliant businessman tactical genius some people insist on believing he is, he'd have arranged this all with Bolton beforehand in exchange for a cut of the profits.
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Old 20th June 2020, 08:05 AM   #211
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/polit...ook/index.html

And the judge refuses to halt the publication of Bolton's book. My pre order is safe.
And Bolton will probably not see a cent of the profits, so it's a win-win!
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Old 20th June 2020, 08:45 AM   #212
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
And Bolton will probably not see a cent of the profits, so it's a win-win!
Even if that happens, I'm not buying it. I refuse to contribute the smallest amount to the financial aggrandizement of that idiot.
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Old 20th June 2020, 08:53 AM   #213
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Even if that happens, I'm not buying it. I refuse to contribute the smallest amount to the financial aggrandizement of that idiot.
You won't have to. The gist of it is already public domain and you can be sure more will out. A lot more.
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Oooooh... the judge said it has classified information! That should sell a million more copies!
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Old 20th June 2020, 10:58 AM   #215
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
And Bolton will probably not see a cent of the profits, so it's a win-win!
That's not a bad outcome. But I wouldn't bet on it.
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Old 20th June 2020, 12:33 PM   #216
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I love how Trump tries to spin the court decision into a win for him.
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Old 20th June 2020, 12:53 PM   #217
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Even if that happens, I'm not buying it. I refuse to contribute the smallest amount to the financial aggrandizement of that idiot.
An ebook will be on the pirate bay sooner rather than later. I won't feel bad about stealing this book.
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We'll hear all the good parts discussed on the news, etc.
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An ebook will be on the pirate bay sooner rather than later. I won't feel bad about stealing this book.
Nor would I.

As Abbie Hoffman might say...

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An ebook will be on the pirate bay sooner rather than later. I won't feel bad about stealing this book.
That works for me. Bolton isn't a patriot. He's nothing but a whore. Hell, he's worse than a whore.

I don't doubt that what he said about Trump in his book is true.
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Old 20th June 2020, 01:32 PM   #221
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An ebook will be on the pirate bay sooner rather than later. I won't feel bad about stealing this book.
It already is, uploaded today!

(posting a link probably violates the MA so I won't but just go there and search the book title)
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Old 20th June 2020, 09:44 PM   #222
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And thanks to Trump trying to stop it, sales will be greater than they would have been otherwise. If he were the brilliant businessman tactical genius some people insist on believing he is, he'd have arranged this all with Bolton beforehand in exchange for a cut of the profits.
I thought he must have heard of the Streissand effect, but I suppose it has too many syllables.

Or he heard the term and got hung up on the name and started fantasizing about grabbing female parts instead of taking in the meaning.
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It's a long-form diary with personal notes and a few happy-snaps of Bolton's overseas trips. Since it has words with more than one syllable and more than one paragraph of them, Trump will not have read any of it.
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He spins the Trumpster as a "small businessman who has done extraordinarily well".
What a load of ****.
what he fails to explain is that Trump used to be a big businessman until he lost all his money and became a small businessman. And he lost that money extraordinarily well.
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what he fails to explain is that Trump used to be a big businessman until he lost all his money and became a small businessman. And he lost that money extraordinarily well.
He's never been a small businessman. Even his lie about being self-made except for a teeny weeny million dollar loan from dad shows that he's never even that world.
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He's never been a small businessman. Even his lie about being self-made except for a teeny weeny million dollar loan from dad shows that he's never even that world.
What he actually is, is a failed businessman.

I mean come on, it takes a very special kind of incompetence to fail at running a casino - owning one of those things as near as you'll ever get to having a licence to print money, yet he utterly failed at it. It makes me wonder if those casinos were set up to actually BE casinos, and not something else, such as a cover for laundering Russian mob money...

Oh, hang on...!
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
What he actually is, is a failed businessman.

I mean come on, it takes a very special kind of incompetence to fail at running a casino - owning one of those things as near as you'll ever get to having a licence to print money, yet he utterly failed at it. It makes me wonder if those casinos were set up to actually BE casinos, and not something else, such as a cover for laundering Russian mob money...

Oh, hang on...!
Don't sell him short - he's had six bankruptcies:

Trump Taj Mahal Associates, Atlantic City casino — 1991
Trump Castle Hotel & Casino, Atlantic City casino — 1992
Trump Plaza Associates, Atlantic City casino — 1992
Plaza Operating Partners, Manhattan hotel — 1992
Trump Casino Holdings, Atlantic City casinos — 2004
Trump Entertainment Resorts, Atlantic City casinos — 2009
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Originally Posted by slyjoe View Post
Don't sell him short - he's had six bankruptcies:

Trump Taj Mahal Associates, Atlantic City casino — 1991
Trump Castle Hotel & Casino, Atlantic City casino — 1992
Trump Plaza Associates, Atlantic City casino — 1992
Plaza Operating Partners, Manhattan hotel — 1992
Trump Casino Holdings, Atlantic City casinos — 2004
Trump Entertainment Resorts, Atlantic City casinos — 2009
They are just the bankruptcies, the number of failed businesses is quite a list on its own right.
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Originally Posted by slyjoe View Post
Don't sell him short - he's had six bankruptcies:

Trump Taj Mahal Associates, Atlantic City casino — 1991
Trump Castle Hotel & Casino, Atlantic City casino — 1992
Trump Plaza Associates, Atlantic City casino — 1992
Plaza Operating Partners, Manhattan hotel — 1992
Trump Casino Holdings, Atlantic City casinos — 2004
Trump Entertainment Resorts, Atlantic City casinos — 2009
I can't be bothered to follow this up with any research on my part but did he actually have his own money invested in any of these ventures or did he just lend his name for a hefty fee and walk away with a pile of cash?
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He spins the Trumpster as a "small businessman who has done extraordinarily well".

Trump isn’t going to be happy with that, is he? Whether it is referring to the business or the man.
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He's never been a small businessman. Even his lie about being self-made except for a teeny weeny million dollar loan from dad shows that he's never even that world.

The classic way to establish a small business is to start with a large one.
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
I can't be bothered to follow this up with any research on my part but did he actually have his own money invested in any of these ventures or did he just lend his name for a hefty fee and walk away with a pile of cash?
I don't believe he has ever filed personal bankruptcy.

ETA: However, I think it was more than just lending his name. He managed the casinos (into the ground).
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I don't believe he has ever filed personal bankruptcy.

ETA: However, I think it was more than just lending his name. He managed the casinos (into the ground).
He did have to hand over control of his finances to the banks for awhile and had to live off an allowance they paid him.
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I can't be bothered to follow this up with any research on my part but did he actually have his own money invested in any of these ventures or did he just lend his name for a hefty fee and walk away with a pile of cash?
Probably very little of his own money. He told Gary Cohn once that he frequently told lenders he'd put a 30 percent stake of his own money in projects and then borrow the 30 percent.
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Leaks suggest that for the half-billion loan coming due right now, Trump is personally on the hook.
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Leaks suggest that for the half-billion loan coming due right now, Trump is personally on the hook.
Nothing is coming due "now". Over the next 4 years he has $480 million coming due, and some of that is personal.
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What he actually is, is a failed businessman.

I mean come on, it takes a very special kind of incompetence to fail at running a casino - owning one of those things as near as you'll ever get to having a licence to print money, yet he utterly failed at it. It makes me wonder if those casinos were set up to actually BE casinos, and not something else, such as a cover for laundering Russian mob money...

Oh, hang on...!
Don't forget the billion dollars he lost in ten years.
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So, just to be clear - Bolton can release the book, and may be in legal trouble due to the classified information issue? Seems like a win-win. Maybe we can get all profits donated to charity, while we're at it.
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Old 22nd June 2020, 04:08 AM   #240
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
I can't be bothered to follow this up with any research on my part but did he actually have his own money invested in any of these ventures or did he just lend his name for a hefty fee and walk away with a pile of cash?
trump protected his personal liability and raised money for these ventures. He was not personally on the hook for one penny. But he didn't lend his name to the casinos. He ran them. Ran them right into the ground. And not deliberately. The consensus is, he was a lousy businessman, one who was unrealistic about his market and his business plan. His plan just didn't work. He was warned that he was making fatal mistakes but he wouldn't listen to anyone or anything except himself.

It's the story of his life, currently playing on an international stage.
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