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Old 28th June 2020, 12:21 PM   #81
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Per Worldometer just now, 25,125 new USA cases today, including 8530 in Florida. And a) the day's not over; and b)it's Sunday, when counts are always low.

Wow. I'm so glad Pence thinks we've got a handle on it.
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Old 28th June 2020, 02:26 PM   #82
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Who was that masked man?
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Old 28th June 2020, 03:28 PM   #83
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Old 28th June 2020, 03:43 PM   #84
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Old 28th June 2020, 05:09 PM   #85
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It looks like re-opening really does have risks:

https://wtop.com/maryland/2020/06/ma...KJLxflxgu2kDqs
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Old 28th June 2020, 05:40 PM   #86
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Originally Posted by TellyKNeasuss View Post
It looks like re-opening really does have risks:

https://wtop.com/maryland/2020/06/ma...KJLxflxgu2kDqs
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Walters declined an interview request from either newspaper, which reported that he said he would not provide any information to public health officials trying to trace the spread of the disease.
In other words, he's a piece of ****.
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Old 28th June 2020, 05:54 PM   #87
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Originally Posted by Resume View Post
In other words, he's a piece of ****.
That's only four stars. "Trump"has five letters. Must be a synonym.
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Old 28th June 2020, 08:13 PM   #88
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Stupid is as stupid does.
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Old 29th June 2020, 05:28 PM   #89
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Did the whole government and some Republican governors just all decide today to ignore Trump and actually do and say things that aren't insane? Pence wore a mask. The HHS secretary told everyone to wear masks. Moscow Mitch told everyone to wear a mask. Abbot and DeSantis rolled back some reopening in the face of huge surges in hospital cases. Neither mandated masks but let municipalities require them if they so choose.
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Old 29th June 2020, 06:00 PM   #90
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Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
Did the whole government and some Republican governors just all decide today to ignore Trump and actually do and say things that aren't insane? Pence wore a mask. The HHS secretary told everyone to wear masks. Moscow Mitch told everyone to wear a mask. Abbot and DeSantis rolled back some reopening in the face of huge surges in hospital cases. Neither mandated masks but let municipalities require them if they so choose.
I think the sudden surge of cases in Texas, Florida, and Arizona actually jolted people out of denial.
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Old 29th June 2020, 06:18 PM   #91
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I think the sudden surge of cases in Texas, Florida, and Arizona actually jolted people out of denial.
And yet you still see the idiots not wearing masks and not social distancing.
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Old 29th June 2020, 07:15 PM   #92
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And yet you still see the idiots not wearing masks and not social distancing.
I should have said "some people". There will always be some people that can't be jolted out of denial.
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Old 30th June 2020, 04:34 PM   #93
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Well done sir!
United States
Coronavirus Cases:
2,725,154
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43000+ new cases yesterday!
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Old 30th June 2020, 04:48 PM   #94
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We are the epicenter of the world! MAGA!!!
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From Senate hearing on COVID 19: new word of the day, "granular".

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Privatize the profits and socialize the losses. It's the American way. That's how Mnuchin got rich. Worse, he did it on the backs of elderly people who had been conned into reverse mortgages. Mnuchin paid zero, took on the debt then taxpayers bailed him out.
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More from the hearing:

It comes up earlier that there's a high volume of cases in nursing homes. It's been recommended that patients all have a COVID test and staff get tested twice a week.

Six weeks after the recommendation, it's still not being done. That was a while ago.

Feds have announced insurance companies are not required to pay for testing.

"Dr Fauci, who's going to pay for the testing of nursing home staff given they earn so little and the tests cost >$1,000 ?"

"That's something we have to figure out."

Tomorrow is July 1st. That's 6 months since the first cases were recognized in the US and they haven't yet figured out who is going to pay for all the testing?????
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Old 30th June 2020, 11:59 PM   #97
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United States
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43000+ new cases yesterday!
The EU announced the countries whose citizens will be allowed to enter its member countries. Guess who is on the list. Rwanda. Guess who didn't make the cut. The United States.
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Old 1st July 2020, 04:07 AM   #98
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The EU announced the countries whose citizens will be allowed to enter its member countries. Guess who is on the list. Rwanda. Guess who didn't make the cut. The United States.
A little fact like this should cause every American to hang their head in shame. Folk too young to have experienced it could be forgiven for thinking, "THIS country put men on the Moon?! No way!"
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A little fact like this should cause every American to hang their head in shame. Folk too young to have experienced it could be forgiven for thinking, "THIS country put men on the Moon?! No way!"
Are we great again yet?
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The EU announced the countries whose citizens will be allowed to enter its member countries. Guess who is on the list. Rwanda. Guess who didn't make the cut. The United States.
Maybe the EU does not like visitors from ****-hole countries.

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Maybe the EU does not like visitors from ****-hole countries.

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At this point, the problem is they're more of a ****-head country.
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So how significant is it that many prominent Republicans are now urging everyone to wear face masks? Is Trump going to see this as a sign of disloyalty? I hope so!
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"I've got mine. Screw the rest of you."

The Trump administration has made a deal with Gilead to buy almost all of the Remdesivir that will be produced in the next three months, leaving almost none for the rest of the world.

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The U.S. has bought nearly the entire global supply of the antiviral drug remdesivir, the only treatment licensed to treat COVID-19, as the nation continues to experience surging cases of coronavirus.

The Trump administration announced this week the U.S. struck an agreement with Gilead to secure more than 500,000 treatment courses of the drug for American hospitals through September.

Gilead will sell 100 percent of its supply for July to the U.S. and 90 percent of the supply produced in August and September.

The move by the U.S., however, leaves a large part of the world without access to the treatment.
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So how significant is it that many prominent Republicans are now urging everyone to wear face masks? Is Trump going to see this as a sign of disloyalty? I hope so!
I think he'll say that although they're showing that they're weaker than him, because they're not suggesting mandatory mask wearing, they're not being disloyal.

Indeed, by showing how strong he is, they may even get his approval.
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Old 1st July 2020, 10:27 AM   #105
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"I've got mine. Screw the rest of you."

The Trump administration has made a deal with Gilead to buy almost all of the Remdesivir that will be produced in the next three months, leaving almost none for the rest of the world.
Remember when he wanted to buy the German company that was developing a vaccine?

He'll pull out of the WHO but demand sole use of their research.
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Birx has been quite the suck-up for which she may be elevated.

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Some White House officials, such as Meadows, want Dr. Deborah Birx, a global infectious diseases expert on the White House task force, to become the face of the coronavirus response
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Originally Posted by Armitage72 View Post
"I've got mine. Screw the rest of you."

The Trump administration has made a deal with Gilead to buy almost all of the Remdesivir that will be produced in the next three months, leaving almost none for the rest of the world.
Well, the way things are shaping up, it's the US and A that will be the primary s---hole country needing 90% of whatever meds are available for their poor, ignorant citizens.
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"I've got mine. Screw the rest of you."

The Trump administration has made a deal with Gilead to buy almost all of the Remdesivir that will be produced in the next three months, leaving almost none for the rest of the world.
An alternative plan might have been to license the drug and have multiple manufacturers make it around the U.S. and the world. But Gilead execs wouldn't make as much money.
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Birx has been quite the suck-up for which she may be elevated.
Fauci snuck out the back door. His smirk rubs me the wrong way and while he's not the true face of the CDC, he might as well be. The CDC has been giving non-evidence based interim guidelines and they still are.

John Dean spoke at the U of WA a number of decades ago. One thing he said stayed with me when he was asked why everyone knowingly broke the law: People around Nixon were somewhat starstruck. They lose sight of normalcy.

That's how I pictured smiling Fauci and Brix, basking in the limelight. Neither calling Trump out for his ignorance. Fauci gave the weakest objections until Trump no longer had Fauci on the stage along with Trump.

Fauci still smirks and acts pleased to be on stage as an expert. He has yet to admit he was wrong about telling people not to wear masks. (I believe he lied and he knows it.) I don't think I've heard any reporters ask him what damage his personal mixed messages about masks have done. He's vague about pointing out the damage Trump's mixed messages about masks has done. Fauci avoids coming right out and saying Trump's mask message is harmful.
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Are we great again yet?
So much WINNING! I'm so tired of winning!
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"I've got mine. Screw the rest of you."

The Trump administration has made a deal with Gilead to buy almost all of the Remdesivir that will be produced in the next three months, leaving almost none for the rest of the world.
Let me guess - he's going to sell the stuff to the highest bidder, again pitting the states against each other. Either that or he'll only give it to the red states or whoever sucks up to him the most and again let blue states fend for themselves.
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An alternative plan might have been to license the drug and have multiple manufacturers make it around the U.S. and the world. But Gilead execs wouldn't make as much money.
Shows to go ya, they have no concept of the world being amidst a deadly pandemic. Not their problem.
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So much WINNING! I'm so tired of winning!
He's a winner alright.

Yeah, Charlie Sheen style.

Hopefully, Trump too will burn out in front of the world, and call it a win!
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He's a winner alright.

Yeah, Charlie Sheen style.

Hopefully, Trump too will burn out in front of the world, and call it a win!
My secret fantasy: Trump falls apart during a debate and goes full on bat ****, Capt. Queeg crazy on live TV.
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Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick of "Old people should be glad to die to save the economy" thread, just said Dr Fauci does not know what he is talking about, and should be ignored.
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Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick of "Old people should be glad to die to save the economy" thread, just said Dr Fauci does not know what he is talking about, and should be ignored.
Conservatives really do hate science but do love their imaginary guy in the sky who is on their 'side'.
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Conservatives really do hate science but do love their imaginary guy in the sky who is on their 'side'.
I have to disagree there; I have no issues with believing in God, but lots of issues with disagreeing with science. Somewho beleives in God, but thinks GOd uses science to run the unvierse I have no quarrel with.
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"I've got mine. Screw the rest of you."

The Trump administration has made a deal with Gilead to buy almost all of the Remdesivir that will be produced in the next three months, leaving almost none for the rest of the world.
That's probably all right, they couldn't afford it anyway. At the same time out of sheer coincidence Gilead also decided it should cost $3k a dose:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gilead-...nsurance-cost/

I can only assume the Trump administration was willing to pay literally any amount of taxpayers' money to make it seem like Trump did something, anything, about the crisis.
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Let me guess - he's going to sell the stuff to the highest bidder, again pitting the states against each other. Either that or he'll only give it to the red states or whoever sucks up to him the most and again let blue states fend for themselves.
Fortunately, it's not that great as a treatment, doesn't appear to affect mortality but does reduce the length of symptoms.

OTOH there is a cheap steroid which does reduce mortality by a fair amount and a complete course costs less than $50
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...a complete course costs less than $50
For now.
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