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Old 17th July 2020, 02:33 AM   #281
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
The more I hear about Trump from the book, the more I feel sorry for him.
Seems like he never had the chance to become a grownup.
Yeah, he's the Commodus of our time.
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Old 17th July 2020, 04:31 AM   #282
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C'mon. Trumpublicans have already established that psychologists can't diagnose mental illness through remote observation, or even personal observation. However, some doctors can diagnose whether or not a person is brain dead by observing television segments.
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Old 17th July 2020, 04:43 AM   #283
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
Yeah, he's the Commodus of our time.
What, a handsome man with a strong dedication to physical fitness and performing feats of athleticism? I don't know that even Trump's harshest critics would accuse him of having those traits.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
What, a handsome man with a strong dedication to physical fitness and performing feats of athleticism? I don't know that even Trump's harshest critics would accuse him of having those traits.
Conceded.
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Old 17th July 2020, 07:05 PM   #285
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I don't know why you assume Donald is intensely devoted to his son Barron. I

don't think Donald is intensely devoted to anyone other than himself.
Right. John Barron.
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Old 17th July 2020, 07:12 PM   #286
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I don't know why you assume Donald is intensely devoted to his son Barron. I don't think Donald is intensely devoted to anyone other than himself.
Donald is about as interested in Barron as Fred Trump was interested in Donald until Donald became useful to him. As a sociopath, no one is important to Trump except in how they can be useful. As Barron is a third son and still a child, he has no use yet. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Trump couldn't tell you what Barron's birthday is.
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Old 17th July 2020, 07:14 PM   #287
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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
Right. John Barron.
Does he go by "Jr" too?

It is interesting isn't it that Trump named 2 of his children after himself.
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
Does he go by "Jr" too?

It is interesting isn't it that Trump named 2 of his children after himself.
Not at all. But he was worried that naming Donnie Jr after him because he might turn out to be a 'loser' according to Ivana. He was right.
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Originally Posted by Meadmaker View Post
Unfortunately, this book is not going to be a blockbuster.
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Old 18th July 2020, 02:22 AM   #290
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Mary Trump really knows her uncle well.

She tweets:

"5.23 million v. 5.11 million

#seldomseen"


Numbers referring to:
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Maddow's sit-down with President Donald Trump's niece drew a record 5.23 million viewers to the show
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Sean Hannity's June 25 town hall with President Trump drew 5.11 million viewers on Fox News

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...erview-1303655
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Not at all. But he was worried that naming Donnie Jr after him because he might turn out to be a 'loser' according to Ivana. He was right.
You can see the man has his priorities straight.
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Old 18th July 2020, 04:25 AM   #292
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Originally Posted by Firestone View Post
Mary Trump really knows her uncle well.

She tweets:

"5.23 million v. 5.11 million

#seldomseen"


Numbers referring to:
Oh that is so deliciously cruel.
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Old 18th July 2020, 06:01 AM   #293
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Oh that is so deliciously cruel.
President Trump will claim that they're his ratings because the book is about him.

Thus he personally has rescued Rachel Maddow's failing #Fakenews show.
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Old 18th July 2020, 06:34 AM   #294
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I just hope her book sells more copies than "Room where it happened" by douchebag walrus.

After all, Mary Trump was a bystander in Trump's actions and had little ability to change events. Bolton was in the middle of things and had plenty of ability to sound alarms over stubby Mcbonespurs' actions at the time they were happening but decided to stay silent.

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Oops!
We shall see. I was very unclear in my statement. I meant to refer to its political impact, but I used a word that is more commonly associated with its sales level.

Still, the fact that it is selling so many copies is a good sign. It might have an impact. If it does, that's excellent. I've gotten to the point where I don't care what's fair, what's right, what's accurate. If it hurts Trump, I'm for it.

The difficulty is judging what actually hurts Trump. Sometimes the voters amaze me.
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Old 18th July 2020, 12:25 PM   #296
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Originally Posted by Firestone View Post
Mary Trump really knows her uncle well.

She tweets:

"5.23 million v. 5.11 million

#seldomseen"


Numbers referring to:
Saw this on the tweet feed:

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I'm reading the book now. I'm only 30 or so pages into it and it is a downer to say the least. A book about a vile man written by a family member who does not like him. I'm going to learn some new things about Trump, but who cares, he'll never get my vote.

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I'm reading the book now. I'm only 30 or so pages into it and it is a downer to say the least. A book about a vile man written by a family member who does not like him. I'm going to learn some new things about Trump, but who cares, he'll never get my vote.

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Even if you think it is depressing, even if it won't change your vote....

Just think: Mary Trump is earning money on Trump's name (without stubby Mcbonespurs getting a cut) and getting attention... If nothing else, that will annoy trump to no end.

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Even if you think it is depressing, even if it won't change your vote....

Just think: Mary Trump is earning money on Trump's name (without stubby Mcbonespurs getting a cut) and getting attention... If nothing else, that will annoy trump to no end.

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And from his own family. The only thing that might be better is a tell all from Melania after she leaves his arse.
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Just think: Mary Trump is earning money on Trump's name (without stubby Mcbonespurs getting a cut) and getting attention... If nothing else, that will annoy trump to no end.
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George Washington U. is about six blocks from the White House, and in normal times they have an extensive series of public events, including author talks in a large auditorium. I hope it's one of the places she goes to promote her book.
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And from his own family. The only thing that might be better is a tell all from Melania after she leaves his arse.
I'll bet the contract has already been signed.
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I'll bet the contract has already been signed.
I doubt it. He'll have her hands legally tied because she'll have signed an NDA tied to her settlement money. I'm sure that's what keeps Ivana and Marla from spilling the beans on him.
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And from his own family. The only thing that might be better is a tell all from Melania after she leaves his arse.
Restrictions on her talking are probably part of the pre-nup.
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... If nothing else, that will annoy trump to no end.
That I like. Thanks.
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Restrictions on her talking are probably part of the pre-nup.
Guess it depends on what is in the prenup...

It is possible that trump is flat broke and only survived by borrowing... Thus, he might not have the money to actually pay whatever she is supposed to get in a divorce.

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I’m listening to the book on Audible. I find it interesting that Mary is doing the narration. Often this is not the best decision, but it works well here as she admits at the start that much of what she has written was the result of first hand experience within the Trump family.

As for its impact? It’s only a matter of a very short time before Trump makes explosive, incorrect, hateful and probably slanderous comments about Mary (if he’s already done so I’ve missed it). All of these events (drink bleach, we have the virus under control etc etc) will have more and more people hopping off the fence.
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No massive revelations so far, but I’m enjoying tidbits like Trump devoting twice the time meeting with Todd Rungren than his entire family.
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I’m listening to the book on Audible. I find it interesting that Mary is doing the narration. Often this is not the best decision, but it works well here as she admits at the start that much of what she has written was the result of first hand experience within the Trump family.

As for its impact? It’s only a matter of a very short time before Trump makes explosive, incorrect, hateful and probably slanderous comments about Mary (if he’s already done so I’ve missed it). All of these events (drink bleach, we have the virus under control etc etc) will have more and more people hopping off the fence.
I read an article today that claims that the GOP is realising that trump is a liability and starting to distance the GOP from Trump, or at least try to do so.

The thrust was that Trump is a spent force and it was time to get the hell out of dodge because there is no way trump gets re-elected.

I refuse to link it, because I have no clue if it is true and cannot stand over it. And I am not about to propagate another bucket of propaganda crap.

I would like to think that the GOP is at least starting to realise that they have hitched their wagon to a kettle of crazy, but probably not.

Could there be a ground swell of popular opinion against trump in the GOP? Maybe. But they sure conceal it well.
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I read an article today that claims that the GOP is realising that trump is a liability and starting to distance the GOP from Trump, or at least try to do so.

The thrust was that Trump is a spent force and it was time to get the hell out of dodge because there is no way trump gets re-elected.

I refuse to link it, because I have no clue if it is true and cannot stand over it. And I am not about to propagate another bucket of propaganda crap.

I would like to think that the GOP is at least starting to realise that they have hitched their wagon to a kettle of crazy, but probably not.

Could there be a ground swell of popular opinion against trump in the GOP? Maybe. But they sure conceal it well.
His handling of the pandemic, and especially his contempt for wearing masks and social distancing, are frustrating some GOP senators who are hearing bad numbers from their states. But nothing quite so stark as what you describe.

I sincerely wonder what Trump's reaction to his niece's book is/will be. It's about him, after all - his favorite subject.
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Trump tweeted

"Mary Trump, a seldom seen niece who knows little about me, says untruthful things about my wonderful parents (who couldn’t stand her!) and me, and violated her NDA. She’s a mess! Many books have been written about me, some good, some bad. Both happily and sadly, there will be more to come!"

He's in full denial mode as expected.
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Trump tweeted

"Mary Trump, a seldom seen niece who knows little about me, says untruthful things about my wonderful parents (who couldn’t stand her!) and me, and violated her NDA. She’s a mess! Many books have been written about me, some good, some bad. Both happily and sadly, there will be more to come!"

He's in full denial mode as expected.
The hatred and slander starts. Let’s see where it leads.
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Her grandparents "couldn't stand her"?
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Her grandparents "couldn't stand her"?
That felt odd to me too.
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Her grandparents "couldn't stand her"?
That speaks well of her character.
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Trump tweeted

"Mary Trump, a seldom seen niece who knows little about me, says untruthful things about my wonderful parents (who couldn’t stand her!) and me, and violated her NDA. She’s a mess! Many books have been written about me, some good, some bad. Both happily and sadly, there will be more to come!"

He's in full denial mode as expected.
Predictably, the book has gotten to him.
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That speaks well of her character.
And is one more element that confirms the family dysfunction.

ETA: Whether or not it's true. Either they really "couldn't stand" their own grandchild, or Donald Trump is willing to make up lies about his parents in order to discredit his niece.

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pre...id-and-vicious
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Wallace then noted that the president has “developed a pretty thick skin over the years from decades of attacks in New York tabloids” and the press as well as his political opponents in Washington, D.C.
Really? Thick skin? I'd say he needs all that makeup to hide the thin transparent skin.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/ny-app...court-decision
Does the NDA actually exist?
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And is one more element that confirms the family dysfunction.

ETA: Whether or not it's true. Either they really "couldn't stand" their own grandchild, or Donald Trump is willing to make up lies about his parents in order to discredit his niece.
What took me back was how intelligent she is. I saw her on her ABC interview and I plan to watch her MSNBC interview too. To most people, the Trump name is synonymous with stupidity so it was surprising to see a Trump who could speak intelligently. She's also capable of introspection which is a bit shocking in a Trump.
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According to Mary's book, Fred Sr. didn't really care about any of his grandchildren and very little for any of his children other than Donald who was just like him. He was a sociopath who controlled everyone and demanded total loyalty but gave none. Just like Donald. Donald's mother, Mary, was submissive and never, ever stood up to Fred. But, according to Mary, she and her grandmother were very close. One incident that demonstrates the difference between Mary Sr. and Fred Sr: When Mary Jr. was in Columbia graduate school, her apartment was burglarized and her typewriter stolen. She didn't have enough money for a new one and asked for an advance on her allowance to buy one. Fred Sr. refused and told her to 'get a job'. When she told her grandmother, Mary Sr. slipped her a check. Fred Sr. found out when he ran across the canceled check and was furious. Fred Sr. also became angry because he didn't like her endorsed signature...it was too sloppy. She was told to change it.
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
According to Mary's book, Fred Sr. didn't really care about any of his grandchildren and very little for any of his children other than Donald who was just like him. He was a sociopath who controlled everyone and demanded total loyalty but gave none. Just like Donald. Donald's mother, Mary, was submissive and never, ever stood up to Fred. But, according to Mary, she and her grandmother were very close. One incident that demonstrates the difference between Mary Sr. and Fred Sr: When Mary Jr. was in Columbia graduate school, her apartment was burglarized and her typewriter stolen. She didn't have enough money for a new one and asked for an advance on her allowance to buy one. Fred Sr. refused and told her to 'get a job'. When she told her grandmother, Mary Sr. slipped her a check. Fred Sr. found out when he ran across the canceled check and was furious. Fred Sr. also became angry because he didn't like her endorsed signature...it was too sloppy. She was told to change it.

I'll add that to my list of How to Identify a Lunatic.
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