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Old 12th August 2020, 10:05 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by Masque View Post
According to Altemeyer in "The Authoritarians", a great read if you haven't read it, "On the other hand, in context to authoritarian personality, authoritarians harbor many double standards and hypocrisies, without realizing it." To the authoritarian, an action is not necessarily right or wrong in itself, but the right or wrongness of it is also determined by who performs the action. So, yes, it really is only a crime if Democrats do it.
Sounds pretty accurate. I can think of a fair few examples.

With Trump, there's also the whataboutism/false equivalence part, the "they do it tooo!!!!!11" accusation they throw out whenever someone so much as looks at them funny.
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Old 12th August 2020, 10:06 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
While I'm not here to defend "cancel culture" per se, now that Trump has officially taken a stand against it, I think it's worth questioning his own use of this very same tactic.

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"One of their political weapons is 'cancel culture' -- driving people from their jobs, shaming dissenters and demanding total submission from anyone who disagrees. This is the very definition of totalitarianism, and it is completely alien to our culture and our values, and it has absolutely no place in the United States of America," Trump said in a July 3 speech at Mount Rushmore.

Itís just the usual projection.
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Old 12th August 2020, 10:08 AM   #43
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I am still wondering if these firings are either cancel culture or not.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/three-n...l-slurs-video/

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...k-lives-matter

That is the hard thing with cancel culture getting actual examples nailed down. I mean was what happened to Papa John cancel culture or not?
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Nope, I see clearly, this flipping the script thing won't work here. Cancel culture is a repugnance, surely even you can see this.
Don't lose focus again, Rocky. We're talking about FACTS, and Trump, and logical implications.
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No thats a dodge, the bad thing here is Cancel Culture, move away from your Orange Man dogma for one instant.
The thread is about Trump!
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It's the right that is having the tizzy about "cancel culture." Those on the left 1) note that half of the time, they can't even talk about what it even means in the first place, and 2) I don't care what you call it, but I absolutely agree that getting a person fired from their job because they are opposed to racist cops killing black people is wrong, whereas I don't have a problem with an employer that fires a person who is vocally racist.

It's not "cancel culture" that I agree with or am opposed to, it is the difference between people getting fired for doing good things and people fired for doing bad things.

And don't bother with the slippery slope nonsense. Colin Kaepernick is not a slippery slope. He was blackballed because he protested police abuse of black people. If you approve of that, there is no middle ground we can have that is debatable.
No thats a dodge, the bad thing here is Cancel Culture, move away from your Orange Man dogma for one instant.
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I'm not the gas light here, those in this thread present an all or nothing and then try to walk it back, it will not work for you. The cancel culture is repugnant.
It certainly is.

If a sitting president were to engage in it, I would vigorously oppose his re-election.
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I stated clearly in the OP that I'm not defending cancel culture but pointing out that Trump himself uses it. Therefore you are wrong.
Or I'm pointing out dishonesty.
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
No thats a dodge, the bad thing here is Cancel Culture, move away from your Orange Man dogma for one instant.
The thread topic directly concerns the "Orange Man". Accordingly...

Do you agree that Trump's comments about Kaepernick (and other kneelers) was the epitome of cancel culture?
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Sure it is. Rocky, we all have seen enough of your posts to find your remarks in this thread to be laughable.
Whatever you say, cancel culture bad.
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Or I'm pointing out dishonesty.
That's a good first steap, because so are we!
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Whatever you say, cancel culture bad.
I'm trying to ascertain if you see the irony of the similarities with what you decry as "orange man bad", here, or if it's downright deliberate.

In both cases it's pretty stupid.
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That's a good first steap, because so are we!
IKYABWAI? Really? Also you fail in your gaslight, clearly any mention of Orange Man, and all of a sudden cancel culture is okay with you. Sure....
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No thats a dodge, the bad thing here is Cancel Culture, move away from your Orange Man dogma for one instant.
I disagree. People being fired for being racist ******** is not a problem. People getting fired because they object to black people getting killed by racist cops is a problem.

Is sex good or bad? Sex between consenting adults is good. Non-consensual sex is not good. Whoops, even for something like sex, it depends on the context.

Then again, as I said, it is the right that insists that "Cancel culture" is bad, so pointing out that they use it themselves is fair.

I don't insist that cancel culture is always bad, so it doesn't bother me.
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Nope, I see clearly, this flipping the script thing won't work here. Cancel culture is a repugnance, surely even you can see this.
I find this laughable. In my state, ...A corporation coerced employees to donate to Republican candidates and if they didn't, they were fired.

Hearing Trump now complain abot cancel culture when he himself said many many times that athletes that don't stand during the anthem should be fired. Until Trump leads by example, that bastard and the GOP hypocrisy can go get ******.
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IKYABWAI? Really?
No. That's not what I was saying at all.

Maybe you should slow down and read for comprehension before reflexively posting in disagreement at everything you see.

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Also you fail in your gaslight, clearly any mention of Orange Man, and all of a sudden cancel culture is okay with you. Sure....
What in the blasted seventh level of hell are you babbling about? That's not even a sentence, rocky.
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It's certainly a good image of how simplified and polarized politics and political discourse have become. No shades of grey, no pros and cons, no compromises, no working with those with a different view than you. x is good, y is bad, and if you like any of the things I put into the y box, or even just point out problems with x or advantages with y, you must be one of those terrible and stupid and corrupt y supporters, and I won't give you the time of day, or perhaps I will just sit in the thread and troll anyone who even tries to have a conversation about these subjects.

"Four legs gooood, two legs baaaaad" is a terrible starting point for political discussion every time.

ETA: it also leads to ridiculous pretzel twisting when for example your favourite x box president engages in y, and all of a sudden you sit there in the thread decrying y while also trolling people who call out your x president for doing y.
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It's certainly a good image of how simplified and polarized politics and political discourse have become. No shades of grey, no pros and cons, no compromises, no working with those with a different view than you. x is good, y is bad, and if you like any of the things I put into the y box, or even just point out problems with x or advantages with y, you must be one of those terrible and stupid and corrupt y supporters, and I won't give you the time of day, or perhaps I will just sit in the thread and troll anyone who even tries to have a conversation about these subjects.

"Four legs gooood, two legs baaaaad" is a terrible starting point for political discussion every time.
Here's the thing. Did Rocky buy Bolton's book or Mary Trump's. Isn't he engaged in "cancel culture" then?
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Again what is and what is not cancel culture?

Is a school teacher fired for being a former sex worker cancel culture? What about one who hosts a white supremacist podcast?
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Here's the thing. Did Rocky buy Bolton's book or Mary Trump's. Isn't he engaged in "cancel culture" then?
AFAIK, cancel culture is less about personally boycotting things, and more along the lines of "you said something I don't agree with or that offends me, so now none of your good qualities or achievements mean anything to me and I'll make sure you lose your job or get kicked out of your school, or that you never get to hold a presentation in front of an audience again".

I don't know if I would do too well at defining specific examples. I wonder if my stance is more like that judge who said "I can't define what is porn and what isn't, but I know it when I see it", if that makes sense?

(For fairness' sake, and in case it wasn't clear, and it probably wasn't , my post wasn't really directed at this forum, more towards the more polarized people who have decided x is bad, and can't see anything good about it, or that y is bigly great, and won't hear anything to the contrary.)
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AFAIK, cancel culture is less about personally boycotting things, and more along the lines of "you said something I don't agree with or that offends me, so now none of your good qualities or achievements mean anything to me and I'll make sure you lose your job or get kicked out of your school, or that you never get to hold a presentation in front of an audience again".

I don't know if I would do too well at defining specific examples. I wonder if my stance is more like that judge who said "I can't define what is porn and what isn't, but I know it when I see it", if that makes sense?
But when asked for examples of porn at the least it is pretty easy to provide links to such. And with this it is hard to find clear cases that say cancel culture exists let alone is a huge problem. The two teachers who people called for their firing that I referenced above show that.
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But when asked for examples of porn at the least it is pretty easy to provide links to such. And with this it is hard to find clear cases that say cancel culture exists let alone is a huge problem. The two teachers who people called for their firing that I referenced above show that.
The difficulty in finding concrete examples is indeed indicative that this might be a problem that's blown out of proportions. Sort of like the fear mongers here in Norway who are convinced Muslims are taking over the country, but when pressed, they give you a handful of feeble anecdotes like "oh, I heard of this one workplace where they don't have pork on the menu anymore in the cafeteria, because they have Muslim employees" .

I certainly wonder if this isn't also the case with these stories about PC SJW students taking over campuses and leaving teachers terrified to teach their subjects or tackling controversal topics, out of fear of having their lives ruined.
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No. That's not what I was saying at all.

Maybe you should slow down and read for comprehension before reflexively posting in disagreement at everything you see.



What in the blasted seventh level of hell are you babbling about? That's not even a sentence, rocky.
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The difficulty in finding concrete examples is indeed indicative that this might be a problem that's blown out of proportions. Sort of like the fear mongers here in Norway who are convinced Muslims are taking over the country, but when pressed, they give you a handful of feeble anecdotes like "oh, I heard of this one workplace where they don't have pork on the menu anymore in the cafeteria, because they have Muslim employees" .

I certainly wonder if this isn't also the case with these stories about PC SJW students taking over campuses and leaving teachers terrified to teach their subjects or tackling controversal topics, out of fear of having their lives ruined.
I can cite examples of people being fired for such, the NYC teacher who wrote an article under a pseudonym about being a former sex worker getting the mayor to rail against her being on the job would be a good example. That is a clear and definitive case see

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ticle-1.438113

And yet I am not at all sure that a teacher with a white supremacist podcast should be teaching social studies see

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/us/da...rnd/index.html

So yes people certainly get fired for BS reasons and it does sometimes fit what people would call cancel culture. But the real instances often are not about politics but sex, and for others it is equating bigotry with just another political difference.
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I find this laughable. In my state, ...A corporation coerced employees to donate to Republican candidates and if they didn't, they were fired.
Prove that ever happened.
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It's certainly a good image of how simplified and polarized politics and political discourse have become. No shades of grey, no pros and cons, no compromises, no working with those with a different view than you. x is good, y is bad, and if you like any of the things I put into the y box, or even just point out problems with x or advantages with y, you must be one of those terrible and stupid and corrupt y supporters, and I won't give you the time of day, or perhaps I will just sit in the thread and troll anyone who even tries to have a conversation about these subjects.

"Four legs gooood, two legs baaaaad" is a terrible starting point for political discussion every time.

ETA: it also leads to ridiculous pretzel twisting when for example your favourite x box president engages in y, and all of a sudden you sit there in the thread decrying y while also trolling people who call out your x president for doing y.
and all the Cancel culture endorsing going on in this thread because of that dreadful orange man.
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Here's the thing. Did Rocky buy Bolton's book or Mary Trump's. Isn't he engaged in "cancel culture" then?
Another IKYABWAI? Really?
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If you can't understand then your gaslight is set to dim.
No it's because my English grammar is set to on.
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Another IKYABWAI? Really?
I guess you don't know what that expression means.
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I guess you don't know what that expression means.
I do, you just keep doing it and then trying to gaslight is all.
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I do, you just keep doing it and then trying to gaslight is all.
You do realise that acbytesla and I are different people, right?

And no, you don't. Twice you've now characterised a poster as doing that when they weren't. I suggested that you should slow down and read for comprehension. I guess you didn't take my advice.
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You do realise that acbytesla and I are different people, right?

And no, you don't. Twice you've now characterised a poster as doing that when they weren't. I suggested that you should slow down and read for comprehension. I guess you didn't take my advice.
You both have clearly expressed a love of Cancel Culture, you might as well embrace that truth, or at least express some frustration.
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You both have clearly expressed a love of Cancel Culture
Quote me. I never said this.

I see you're not abandoning your claim with regards to said expression. Good.
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Old 12th August 2020, 11:05 AM   #75
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Quote me. I never said this.
You're clearly thinking it right now. Orange man is orange man, Cancel culture is akin to Commie Chinese social credit score nonsense. Why would you embrace such a thing?
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Old 12th August 2020, 11:08 AM   #76
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
You're clearly thinking it right now.
Quote me or you're lying.

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1=1, got it.

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Ridiculous. Good or bad, all ideological groups engage in cancel culture. That has been demonstrated in this thread amply, and since you can't edit other people's posts, the only one trying to gaslight anyone here is you. Good luck with that.
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Do you agree that Trump's comments about Kaepernick (and other kneelers) was the epitome of cancel culture?
Bumping because Rocky must have missed it, seeing as they are generally ready, willing and able to answer pertinent questions.

Right?

Please bear in mind that the thread topic directly involves Trump, and that repeating Orange Man Bad like a parrot on meth doesn't further the discussion.
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
Quote me or you're lying.



1=1, got it.



Ridiculous. Good or bad, all ideological groups engage in cancel culture. That has been demonstrated in this thread amply, and since you can't edit other people's posts, the only one trying to gaslight anyone here is you. Good luck with that.
Nope, despite your rising frustrations, cancel culture is a Chinese import to Murica, and being liberal you clearly have embraced it, your writing style is enough proof. The gas lighting remains a fail.
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Nope, despite your rising frustrations
There's no frustration. I know you think your trolling is clever and effective but it's just transparent and amusing.

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Come on, now. You can do better than that. You're not even trying.
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There's no frustration. I know you think your trolling is clever and effective but it's just transparent and amusing.



Come on, now. You can do better than that. You're not even trying.
Maybe triggered is the better word for it, and yes it is an import to America. Likely the libs are in on it to. Look at how they tried destabilizing Portland and Seattle.
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