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Old 13th August 2020, 09:15 AM   #161
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
But when asked for examples of porn at the least it is pretty easy to provide links to such. And with this it is hard to find clear cases that say cancel culture exists let alone is a huge problem. The two teachers who people called for their firing that I referenced above show that.
I'll need some examples if you expect me to take your argument seriously. Really, everyone should chime and and try to help you substantiate this claim if we are going to move forward in this conversation.

Let's make it a group effort here folks, ponderingturtle needs our help!
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Old 13th August 2020, 09:17 AM   #162
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Originally Posted by Cavemonster View Post
"Cancel culture" is just like "SJW".

Take some kind of action that's been happening forever like caring about issues or creating consequences for actions through community feedback.

Give a scary term to the people on the left doing it while ignoring the same actions from the right, and try to define it in terms of the overreach and zealotry of the fringes so you can dismiss any actions you don't like as crazy and dangerous.

It wasn't called cancel culture when conservatives were clamoring for the heads of any company or public figure who mentioned the existence of gay people. They didn't see the "one million moms" boycotts, petitions and actions as worthy of a scary name.
This post proves what the SJW Outrage mobs always do, they define the cancel culture thing for what it is, and then justify doing itself themselves all the while playing victim to it.

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Old 13th August 2020, 09:19 AM   #163
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Naw, "identity politics" is right wing shorthand to try to condemn giving a crap about issues that effect women or racial, sexual or gender minorities.
Well, yes, it's often used that way - as I said before, if it meant "obsession with identity issues", than the obvious white supremacism of the modern GOP would likely be the single easiest example to point out, after all. That one, unlike issues like police violence, abortion, etc. actually only serves to harm the average white person as well - it's actually the only perfectly clear example of a group putting their identity above even their own health and financial stability.

Not that it's a surprise that conservative white men fall for this the most, they're the one group least in control of their emotions, as I've noted before.
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Old 13th August 2020, 09:22 AM   #164
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Well, yes, it's often used that way - as I said before, if it meant "obsession with identity issues", than the obvious white supremacism of the modern GOP would likely be the single easiest example to point out, after all. That one, unlike issues like police violence, abortion, etc. actually only serves to harm the average white person as well - it's actually the only perfectly clear example of a group putting their identity above even their own health and financial stability.

Not that it's a surprise that conservative white men fall for this the most, they're the one group least in control of their emotions, as I've noted before.
Or the SJW "CIS" hating Outrage mobs who find hate symbols in everything and anything. Of course CIS is not a real word.
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Old 13th August 2020, 09:40 AM   #165
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This is why I abhor Rocky and his politics. He has not only no room for dissent, he actually is subtly promoting genocide. If you don't think or look like him you should be wiped from the board.

Pretty scary stuff.
I have not seen any posts that suggest the poster in question asserts that people who do not look like "him" be wiped from the board. Only those who do not think like "him".

And "he" is far from the only poster in this forum who are of the opinion that those who do not think like them should be wiped from the board.
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Old 13th August 2020, 09:41 AM   #166
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Or the SJW "CIS" hating Outrage mobs who find hate symbols in everything and anything. Of course CIS is not a real word.
If you mean "cis", as in "cis gender", of course it is a word; since at least the time of the Romans when it meant "on the side nearer to Rome". Certainly since I studied chemistry in college. It means "on the same side of/as". So two particular atoms or groups are on the same side of a given plane in a molecule. Means the same thing in genetics, hence the extension to a person's gender and sex being on the same side of the gender divide.

That's two opinions we get to change today. Still hoping to see how you intend to apply this new information to modifying your opinions and "owning up".

Just because I'm anal retentive about such things: "trans" isomers are the "opposite" of "cis" isomers, having groups on opposite sides of a given plane, so trans-gender means your sex and gender are different. Loosely defining "gender" as what sex you feel you are.

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Old 13th August 2020, 09:46 AM   #167
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
To be fair, it describes (perhaps somewhat nebulous) left-wing ideologies.
Except it really doesn't - thus the extended freakouts over, for example, Captain Marvel. Point is, reactionaries tend to define phrases in one manner, and then use them in an entirely different, often completely random manner.
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Old 13th August 2020, 10:05 AM   #168
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
Or the SJW "CIS" hating Outrage mobs who find hate symbols in everything and anything. Of course CIS is not a real word.
Well, as masque explained, it actually is a "real word", although I have little idea what would constitute a "fake word" that has an agreed-upon definition. It's also rather useful - if one wishes to contrast transgender folk from non-transgender folk, well, there's already a built-in word for the latter group, and it's "cisgender". Quick, easy to say, doesn't cause any reasonable offense to anyone.

See if you can spot the irony in your own post, though.
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Old 13th August 2020, 10:25 AM   #169
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You're clearly thinking it right now. Orange man is orange man, Cancel culture is akin to Commie Chinese social credit score nonsense. Why would you embrace such a thing?
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Old 13th August 2020, 10:28 AM   #170
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"Ah, I remember when I had my first beer." - Steve Martin
One of my favorite lines of all time...I like to pull it out on occasion...
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Old 13th August 2020, 10:59 AM   #171
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I like to pull it out on occasion...
That's how Louis CK got cancelled.
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I'm wondering if I should keep reading this thread. Is stupid catching if exposed to it long enough?
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Old 13th August 2020, 11:54 AM   #173
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Well, as masque explained, it actually is a "real word", although I have little idea what would constitute a "fake word" that has an agreed-upon definition. It's also rather useful - if one wishes to contrast transgender folk from non-transgender folk, well, there's already a built-in word for the latter group, and it's "cisgender". Quick, easy to say, doesn't cause any reasonable offense to anyone.

See if you can spot the irony in your own post, though.
Irregardless.
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Well, as masque explained, it actually is a "real word", although I have little idea what would constitute a "fake word" that has an agreed-upon definition.
Good point. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say it's not a neologism, which also gives us the opportunity to use the word "neologism."
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Irregardless.
Do not make me have to hunt you down and send the grammar police.
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Do not make me have to hunt you down and send the grammar police.
It hurt my fingers to type that and pissed me off to no end that the autocorrect was fine with it.
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I regret to inform both of you, it was elevated to a real word irregardless of how we feel about it.
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I regret to inform both of you, it was elevated to a real word irregardless of how we feel about it.
I almost cried when that happened. My wife and I would always laugh when her sister said it, thinking it made her sound intelligent.
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Irregardless.
"Irregardless" is obviously a "real word", with the same meaning as "regardless". Has been for a long time now - the first known use in print was 1795.
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"Irregardless" is obviously a "real word", with the same meaning as "regardless". Has been for a long time now - the first known use in print was 1795.
I could care less when it first appeared in print. It ain't a real word.
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"Irregardless" is obviously a "real word", with the same meaning as "regardless". Has been for a long time now - the first known use in print was 1795.
That argument is facially cromulent, but it lacks all truthiness.
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I could care less when it first appeared in print. It ain't a real word.

Out of curiosity, I just did a search for "literally definition" online. One definition is
"Informal: used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true."

I'm not one of those people who complains about things like the use of "decimate" and how it "actually" means killing one person in ten, but that's just wrong.
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I could care less when it first appeared in print. It ain't a real word.
I hate to break this to you. It is. I get the silliness of the word, but if people use it, it's a word.

My grandmother use to go apoplectic whenever we used the word "ain't" as a kid. She said something similar to what you're saying about "irregardless". She would say it's not in the dictionary ...but of course it is.
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I could say that "I could care less" means exactly the opposite of what it's meant to but I think most on here couldn't care less. But, god, it grinds my gears the wrong way.

I'll still choose to only use 'regardless'.
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Irregardless etymologically smacks of a double negative.
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It's only "cancel culture" if a librul does it. Otherwise, it is a legitimate use of free speech.
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Old 13th August 2020, 11:42 PM   #187
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I could care less when it first appeared in print. It ain't a real word.
I see what you did there.
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Irregardless etymologically smacks of a double negative.
As does "inflammable".
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As does "inflammable".
Erm...double positive? I mean it will burn "irregardless"


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Still, it's not like double negatives are the worst the English language has to offer up. What about contranyms and homophones/homographs? The following sentence makes complete sense:

"The weather had weathered the rock, but the rock had weathered the weather."

Irregardless is small potatoes when it comes down to it.

[edit]Or even "The question is not whether the weather had weathered the rock, but whether the rock and weathered the weather"
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You mean any politician.
Every time I see someone shrieking "everyone is equally bad", I see someone supporting side that has majority, if not all, of blame.

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Wait are both sides "equally bad" or is the Left all losers who should be wiped off the face of the Earth?
I never meet anyone that was sincere in their "equally bad" nonsense. This meaningless phrase is used when poster in question has no argument.
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I hate to break this to you. It is. I get the silliness of the word, but if people use it, it's a word.

My grandmother use to go apoplectic whenever we used the word "ain't" as a kid. She said something similar to what you're saying about "irregardless". She would say it's not in the dictionary ...but of course it is.
There's proper English and then slang bull ***** people make up.
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It's only "cancel culture" if a librul does it. Otherwise, it is a legitimate use of free speech.
No Cancel Culture is mob groupthink run amok, it sense that some can only see it along partisan lines, which really is why both sides suck.
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No Cancel Culture is mob groupthink run amok, it sense that some can only see it along partisan lines, which really is why both sides suck.
Nonsense. Both sides do not suck. The Right wing is awful, they're modern day nazis, they are run by extremists. The Left in America is moderate and consists of everyone else.
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Nonsense. Both sides do not suck. The Right wing is awful, they're modern day nazis, they are run by extremists. The Left in America is moderate and consists of everyone else.
Nonsense back. You have the extreme Right which is run by a bunch of extremists and the far left run by same. You have the moderate perimeter around that and the "establishment" centrists in the middle. Yours is an over simplification.
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Nonsense back. You have the extreme Right which is run by a bunch of extremists and the far left run by same. You have the moderate perimeter around that and the "establishment" centrists in the middle. Yours is an over simplification.
The far left mostly consist of people that refuse to vote, and yet expect the democratic party to cater to them.

The far right conists of thr Boogaloo Boys, the Atomwaffen Division, and other outright murderous white nationalist groups - with the KKK and the like as kinda rickety former "greats". The problem is that unlike the far left, which sits around all salty, they've ben more or less welcomed by the GOP, which has also embraced much of their rhetoric. There's a reason why the Tucker Carlson White Power Hour is so popular among republicans, after all.
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There's proper English and then slang bull ***** people make up.
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No Cancel Culture is mob groupthink run amok, it sense that some can only see it along partisan lines, which really is why both sides suck.
I'm just going to post these two quotes, back-to-back, with no comment.
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I'm going to outdo you by posting these two quotes with no comment.

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the bad thing here is Cancel Culture
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I'm going to outdo you by posting these two quotes with no comment.
you've outdone nothing, your dancing skills are top notch though

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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
There's proper English and then slang bull ***** people make up.
I hate to break it to you again Rocky. But there is no such thing as "proper English". "Proper" to whom? Languages are forever evolving. And people making things up is how it evolves. English today doesn't sound much like it did in the 16th Century now does it? You almost need a translator to understand Shakespeare. How do you think that happened?

Arguing there is only one way to speak is both pompous and just wrong. What matters is did your audience understand you. Are you really going to say Mark Twain was "wrong"?
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